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curiosity about opiates

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greendrugz4me

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I've been curious about opiates (specifically heroin) on and off for a while. I wish they weren't so damned addictive and dangerous. But I'm here to ask...

can you do it just once? Just once I want to feel that, feeling. From what I've read about heroin, the experience is not necessarily euphoric, but blissful apathy, a meditative state. I remember once many years ago I got some percs after a minor surgical operation. I remember talking to my mom, and just feeling elated over nothing. Obviously I was in no pain, but it felt great. I used to get that way from weed but anxiety has seen to that. Again I ask, can you do it just once, or at least infrequently enough to never become addicted?

Does anyone wish they could go overboard, be a junkie for a while, and snap their fingers, and its like none of it ever happened?

I know its silly and childish but, Eric clapton, jimmy page, keith richard, they all did heroin, never died, and came out all right in the end.


I don't want to be curious about opiates. But I figure the only way to not be curious is do it.
 
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well never done heroin but i think its safe to say EVERYONE wishes they could take their drugs as much as they want then when they felt the need snap their fingers and go back to normal. unfortunatly its not like that =/

never done heroin but i dabbled into oxycodone and hydrocodone for a couple months. i didnt do it to often like once a week so i never got real sucked into it where i couldnt get out. but i never felt the need to do them again and havnt for almost 2 months. so yes its very possible you could do it just once. ive heard that opiate addiction actually takes quite awhile to develop, or notice it anyway.

but ill admit the only reason i stopped taking them was because my mom stopped getting perscribed them =/ i havnt felt that their worth paying for to ME but if i ever get my hands on them again ill definetly take them.
 
um, you should definitely NOT do heroin as your first opiate. start with codeine, DHC, or tramadol -->> hydrocodone -->> oxycodone -->> oxymorphone, hydromorphone, morphine(heroin) --->> IV


some people dont even move past codeine/hydrocodone. you can still get really high from them if you sustain a low tolerance and taking them very seldom. of course, the more you use and the more often you use will increase tolerance and the likely hood of you moving up the opiate ladder.

i would suggest ONLY eating/snorting/plugging your opiates depending on which. leave the needles alone; stay away from them at all costs. once you have a high oxymorphone, heroin, or hydromorphone tolerance (insnuff) then you could maybe go the IV route but i wouldnt. its just way to easy to lose everything to the needle....not that you cant hit rock bottom with other ROA, but IV produces an amazing rush (so i hear) and the bio-availability of the drug when IVed is 100% so yah
 
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laCster said:
um, you should definitely NOT do heroin as your first opiate. start with codeine, DHC, or tramadol -->> hydrocodone -->> oxycodone -->> oxymorphone, hydromorphone -->>morphine(heroin)


the last two transitions don't really matter. they are all pretty powerful
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I got IV morphine in the hospital as a kid after spinal surgery. I wish I remembered it. I just remember throwing up A LOT. I'm probably never gonna do any of that shit anyway man. I'm sure it feels amazing but you're playing with fire, big time.
 
laCster said:
um, you should definitely NOT do heroin as your first opiate. start with codeine, DHC, or tramadol -->> hydrocodone -->> oxycodone -->> oxymorphone, hydromorphone, morphine(heroin) --->> IV


some people dont even move past codeine/hydrocodone. you can still get really high from them if you sustain a low tolerance and taking them very seldom. of course, the more you use and the more often you use will increase tolerance and the likely hood of you moving up the opiate ladder.

i would suggest ONLY eating/snorting/plugging your opiates depending on which. leave the needles alone; stay away from them at all costs. once you have a high oxymorphone or hydromorphone tolerance (insnuff) then you could maybe go the IV route but i wouldnt. its just way to easy to lose everything to the needle....not that you cant hit rock bottom with other ROA, but IV produces an amazing rush (so i hear) and the bio-availability of the drug when IVed is 100% so yah
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a tidal wave of euphoria! really all it is your brain releasing metric fucktons of dopamine and serotonin. fun to think about eh. Personally I'm gonna wait till I'm 90 and then obtain lots of opiates and then just go crazy. who gives a fuck I'm 90 right??

but for now I guess I should stick to weed, maybe move to trying psychedelics when I feel I'm ready. Those can also create euphoric feelings with the correct set and setting.
 
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greendrugz4me said:
a tidal wave of euphoria! really all it is your brain releasing metric fucktons of dopamine and serotonin. fun to think about eh. Personally I'm gonna wait till I'm 90 and then obtain lots of opiates and then just go crazy. who gives a fuck I'm 90 right??

but for now I guess I should stick to weed, maybe move to trying psychedelics when I feel I'm ready. Those can also create euphoric feelings with the correct set and setting.
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do you mind me asking how old you are?? i think you are really young and you have alot to learn my friend :)
 
greendrugz4me said:
a tidal wave of euphoria! Breally all it is your brain releasing metric fucktons of dopamine and serotonin. fun to think about eh. Personally I'm gonna wait till I'm 90 and then obtain lots of opiates and then just go crazy. who gives a fuck I'm 90 right??

but for now I guess I should stick to weed, maybe move to trying psychedelics when I feel I'm ready. Those can also create euphoric feelings with the correct set and setting.
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do you have a source for this? or can anyone back that up? just curious because id never heard of opiods releasing serotonin nor could find a website that says that.
 
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do you have a source for this? or can anyone back that up? just curious because id never heard of opiods releasing serotonin nor could find a website that says that.
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yah they dont...the poster just sounds immature. but we were all there once :)
 
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do you have a source for this? or can anyone back that up? just curious because id never heard of opiods releasing serotonin nor could find a website that says that.
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maybe not serotonin. but all drugs really do is affect neurotransmitters in the brain.
 
I definitely agree with laCster. Do NOT use heroin if you have no experience with opiates.
And just to reiterate what some have said, it causes the release of DOPAMINE not Seratonin. Heroin, and the injection there of is for more experienced opiate users. Don't go there until you must. Start with pills, because with them you know what you're getting in terms of mg's. Heroin comes in varying degrees of potency and purity. I agree with everything laCster has said, you remind me of myself man! haha. Oh and yes, slamming OC's as well as H, induces a rush from GOD.. It is a very profound feeling. I was addicted for 4 years, and it all started with a 5mg Percocet. Pretty crazy.
 
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I would of course recommend staying away from opiates all together if you haven't started dabbling already. I started off taking a couple Tylenol 3 of Vicodin's here and there, and long story short, ended up pretty much ruining my life at one point. The thing with addiction, is that for a lot of people, it sneaks up on them and before they realize they have a problem, they have already lost all control.

As far as what you said about the brains interaction with heroin, you're pretty much correct. Drugs don't necessarily cause highs. They actually cause the brain to release differently, depending on the drug taken, which creates the high. But that's not really the point here.
 
im really high and im being a dick but just to prove my point you are obviously young because if you werent you would have answered my first question; you would have not argued with me if you weren't a teen (hopefully not younger lmao) because this is the internet
 
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