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Yellowcabs

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I'm ready to start my 2nd cycle basically. I posted my stats below. With my previous cycle I did everything that I was supposed to in order to prevent gyno, I had no signs of anything until about a week after I stopped my PCT (clomid and nolva) now I have a lump under one nipple that I can't get rid of. I just started taking letro for it.

Anyway my question is what sort of summer cycle could I do that would be best for not making my gyno worse or giving it to me on the other side? I'm looking to put on a little muscle, increase well being, and keep my body fat low (I'm a lifeguard so I want to keep some definition :D ) Thanks

• Age
25
• Weight/height
185 lbs. 6'2"
• AAS experience (have you used AAS before, what doses, results?)
Have ran two bottles of epistane and one bottle of test prop, one sustoject 250 and dbol cycle
• Goals (what are you trying to achieve with AAS?)
Put on muscle mass, keep body fat low
• BF%
about 9%
• Diet
Healthy, all organic. No fast food or soda
• Work out schedule
Usually 6 days a week; split -back/biceps: chest/triceps: legs: shoulders
 
Yellowcabs said:
I'm ready to start my 2nd cycle basically. I posted my stats below. With my previous cycle I did everything that I was supposed to in order to prevent gyno, I had no signs of anything until about a week after I stopped my PCT (clomid and nolva) now I have a lump under one nipple that I can't get rid of. I just started taking letro for it.

Anyway my question is what sort of summer cycle could I do that would be best for not making my gyno worse or giving it to me on the other side? I'm looking to put on a little muscle, increase well being, and keep my body fat low (I'm a lifeguard so I want to keep some definition :D ) Thanks

• Age
25
• Weight/height
185 lbs. 6'2"
• AAS experience (have you used AAS before, what doses, results?)
Have ran two bottles of epistane and one bottle of test prop, one sustoject 250 and dbol cycle
• Goals (what are you trying to achieve with AAS?)
Put on muscle mass, keep body fat low
• BF%
about 9%
• Diet
Healthy, all organic. No fast food or soda
• Work out schedule
Usually 6 days a week; split -back/biceps: chest/triceps: legs: shoulders
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Did your one cycle consist of the bottle of prop and sust together with the dbol?

It seems like you know a little about gear and dieting, did you have any signs of gyno during the cycle?

So many factors and compounds can exacerbate symptoms of gyno...but it's all subjective...as you already know, everyone responds differently to certain compounds...

I would get my test levels checked and then jump on a low dose (500mg or LESS) of test prop a week...test prop users tend to complain of less bloat and visible signs of aromatization.. then maybe throw in a mild oral like anavar, winstrol, or tbol to get cut..DIET AND LIFESTYLE FACTORS ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT!!!
 
PARooolller said:
Did your one cycle consist of the bottle of prop and sust together with the dbol?

It seems like you know a little about gear and dieting, did you have any signs of gyno during the cycle?

So many factors and compounds can exacerbate symptoms of gyno...but it's all subjective...as you already know, everyone responds differently to certain compounds...

I would get my test levels checked and then jump on a low dose (500mg or LESS) of test prop a week...test prop users tend to complain of less bloat and visible signs of aromatization.. then maybe throw in a mild oral like anavar, winstrol, or tbol to get cut..DIET AND LIFESTYLE FACTORS ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT!!!
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It was one bottle test prop, then a bout 2-3 months later it was the sust and dbol. Everything else is on point, my diet, training etc. I just need help with gear.

I had no signs the whole time like I said until about a week after my pct a lump just showed up. No prior itching or irritation.

If I start prop should I take letro through the whole cycle?
 
NOOO.. there's no need for an AI unless you begin to see signs of estrogen...then maybe dose .5mg every 3 day arimidex
 
What dosage of test did you run while on cycle? How many weeks was the cycle? What dosages did you run for PCT and for how long?

Trenbolone doesn't really aromatize, however I am not sure if you want to run that being as this is only your second cycle.
 
DrHiney said:
What dosage of test did you run while on cycle? How many weeks was the cycle? What dosages did you run for PCT and for how long?

Trenbolone doesn't really aromatize, however I am not sure if you want to run that being as this is only your second cycle.
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I ran test at 100mg EOD then I started a bottle of Sustoject and dbol at 25 mg ED. I guess the full cycle would have been around maybe 2 months. For PCT I did:
Nolva: 20/20/20/20
Clomid: 50/50/50/50

I'm thinking about finishing out my bottle of dbol and test (getting more if needed) an just staying on the Letro the whole time for the gyno. Anything glaringly wrong with this?
 
To answer your main question, your playing with fire if you decide to go on-cycle with lingering gyno symptoms. Your priority should be trying to get rid of the lump off-cycle as it'll be much harder to reverse the gyno related symptons on-cycle.
 
AlmostFamous said:
To answer your main question, your playing with fire if you decide to go on-cycle with lingering gyno symptoms. Your priority should be trying to get rid of the lump off-cycle as it'll be much harder to reverse the gyno related symptons on-cycle.
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Thanks, I guess I'll give the Letro a few weeks to work by itself.
 
Yellowcabs said:
I ran test at 100mg EOD then I started a bottle of Sustoject and dbol at 25 mg ED. I guess the full cycle would have been around maybe 2 months. For PCT I did:
Nolva: 20/20/20/20
Clomid: 50/50/50/50

I'm thinking about finishing out my bottle of dbol and test (getting more if needed) an just staying on the Letro the whole time for the gyno. Anything glaringly wrong with this?
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Are you saying you ran sustoject ED? Sustoject is 250mg/mL. How many cc's of the sustoject were you using and how often after you finished the prop?
 
aasanctuary said:
Are you saying you ran sustoject ED? Sustoject is 250mg/mL. How many cc's of the sustoject were you using and how often after you finished the prop?
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I think it was 1cc every 3 days and I just bridged through after I got done with my bottle of prop.
 
AlmostFamous said:
To answer your main question, your playing with fire if you decide to go on-cycle with lingering gyno symptoms. Your priority should be trying to get rid of the lump off-cycle as it'll be much harder to reverse the gyno related symptons on-cycle.
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@ OP - SImply run Letrozole during your next cycle, i've had it remove a pea size lump ON gear.

As far your PCT goes - stick w nolva , no need for both nolva and clomid and no need for clomid period - unless you want to be sobbing watching the notebook ;).
 
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theartofwar said:
@ OP - SImply run Letrozole during your next cycle, i've had it remove a pea size lump ON gear.

As far your PCT goes - stick w nolva , no need for both nolva and clomid and no need for clomid period - unless you want to be sobbing watching the notebook ;).
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Do you think the Letro could be making my depression/anxiety worse? I'v been feeling really low lately, also I have no libido. I wanted to start my test prop, but I was worried about my gyno. Instead I started a new bottle of Epistane but I'd rather be doing the prop.

I'v been on the Letro for a week now. Not much difference in my gyno, maybe it feels a little softer.
 
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