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New RCs in the UK Ver. 4: Still disappointed?

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scrooloose said:
Wasn't ODT positively identified as the active ingredient in UEI kratom?
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UEI just stands for Ultra Enhanced Indonesian. There are loads of different versions of the stuff knocking about. The particular brand that contained O-Desmethyltramadol was called Krypton Kratom.
 
Mental Kenny said:
Word, it such a great drug, I've been preaching a lot about it on these forums, agreed that the mix with methylone feels great while you're on it, but it's awful the next day, try the 4-FA alone, perhaps in bigger doses, not nearly as bad of a comedown, M1 really has nasty after effects.
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Interesting, thanks for the tip. I haven't done either one alone yet so you are saying that M1 alone has a worse comedown than 4-FA alone? This is all good stuff to know. Also, have you tried re-dosing on 4-Fa? I'm curious as to how effective re-dosing would be after say 4 hours when you start to feel the beginning of the comedown.
 
I Eat Pho said:
Interesting, thanks for the tip. I haven't done either one alone yet so you are saying that M1 alone has a worse comedown than 4-FA alone? This is all good stuff to know. Also, have you tried re-dosing on 4-Fa? I'm curious as to how effective re-dosing would be after say 4 hours when you start to feel the beginning of the comedown.
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M1 has an incredibly bad comedown, honestly for me it beats everything, much worse than MDMA or mephedrone, 4-FA unless you do crazy amounts(as in more than half a gram in one session) it's not that bad at all.

I always redosed with 4-FA, I never just did a single dose not even the first time I tried it, I usually take small repeated doses instead of bombing, I feel I can make the good euphoric high last a lot more this way, if I just do dabs I can keep on feeling awesome for the whole day/night.

If you do bombs don't more than two or else it just gets speedy, still enjoyable don't get me wrong, but as good as the first few hours.

I'd say try to stay below 300 mgs per sesh if you want to avoid the negatives, quite silly of an advice coming from me as I usually cane a gram in 3 days, but whatever at least I try to preach well.
 
Mental Kenny said:
M1 has an incredibly bad comedown, honestly for me it beats everything, much worse than MDMA or mephedrone, 4-FA unless you do crazy amounts(as in more than half a gram in one session) it's not that bad at all.

I always redosed with 4-FA, I never just did a single dose not even the first time I tried it, I usually take small repeated doses instead of bombing, I feel I can make the good euphoric high last a lot more this way, if I just do dabs I can keep on feeling awesome for the whole day/night.

If you do bombs don't more than two or else it just gets speedy, still enjoyable don't get me wrong, but as good as the first few hours.

I'd say try to stay below 300 mgs per sesh if you want to avoid the negatives, quite silly of an advice coming from me as I usually cane a gram in 3 days, but whatever at least I try to preach well.
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Haha right on. Ok so since I have only bombed it what do you think of my proposed plan to dose 170mg and then around comedown time (+4) dose the same amount (170)?

Have you ever bombed the initial dose and then just insufflated the smaller doses in increments throughout the night?
 
Noticed a few pages back there was a brief discussion on B2. I understand that when it comes down to it, it could be anything, but hopefully some healthy discussion on this meph like compound will help get to the bottom of what it is .........

Actually I have a bit more information from the source regarding B2's composition. It is described as:

'Propylhexedrine analogue (3,4-methdioxy variant) '

I have just posted over in the 'legal high products in the uk' thread then thought maybe it would be better here, so sorry for the double post, cant figure how delete the other one. Anyway, because im by my own admission a lazy sod and cant be arsed type it again here is what I said:


Hello fellow bluelighters .................. not been around for a while ...... nice to see some familier faces still around

Anyhows I'll keep this (fairly) short as I just, in epic moron style, mannaged to go back a page in my browser before saving a lengthy thought out post ..... oh and please excuse my spelling and grammar .... I have issues lol

So to sumirise what I was going to post:

1) I have B2, Its back again and is claimed by the seller to be a 'Propylhexedrine analogue (3,4-methdioxy variant) '

2) I loved the first B2 because it was very similar to meph

3) First impreswsions of this stuff is it smells exactly (from what I remember), and I mean exactly like mephedrone .....

..... So, If by chance your saw any of my older posts on the original B2 last year on this or other forums you will remember I said the same thing, smelt just like meph ........ well this smells more like meph than meph itself lol

The appearence is crystaline, a few largish chunks but mainly powder ..... not grains or dust but kind of micro shards. Its very clean looking, not brilliant but still pure white if you know what I mean, no yellow or brown tinges to it, just white whith a slight transparent quality (maybe slightly gray on 2nd inspection)

So ...... I did a line around 10 mins ago and although Im conscious of that 'this stuff is awseome Im coming up baby syndrome' which can happen on the worst of drugs ...... Right at thi moment this stuff feels alot like mephedrone, very nioce indde..... BUT - I'll reserve further judgment till later ......
 
erm, the whole woof woof thing was based on a joke website vendor made up by me and some other people from another forum in an attempt to get it into the paper, there was no actual chemical behind the name, just some advertising and the website :D
 
I Eat Pho said:
Haha right on. Ok so since I have only bombed it what do you think of my proposed plan to dose 170mg and then around comedown time (+4) dose the same amount (170)?

Have you ever bombed the initial dose and then just insufflated the smaller doses in increments throughout the night?
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I would redose sooner to be honest, I reckon after 4 hours you might just end up feeling speedyness, maybe take like 100 mgs to be on the safe side and eventually snort more if you feel like it.

Snorting works great, except for the burn, which is intense.
 
Mullered said:
Noticed a few pages back there was a brief discussion on B2. I understand that when it comes down to it, it could be anything, but hopefully some healthy discussion on this meph like compound will help get to the bottom of what it is .........

Actually I have a bit more information from the source regarding B2's composition. It is described as:

'Propylhexedrine analogue (3,4-methdioxy variant) '

I have just posted over in the 'legal high products in the uk' thread then thought maybe it would be better here, so sorry for the double post, cant figure how delete the other one. Anyway, because im by my own admission a lazy sod and cant be arsed type it again here is what I said:


Hello fellow bluelighters .................. not been around for a while ...... nice to see some familier faces still around

Anyhows I'll keep this (fairly) short as I just, in epic moron style, mannaged to go back a page in my browser before saving a lengthy thought out post ..... oh and please excuse my spelling and grammar .... I have issues lol

So to sumirise what I was going to post:

1) I have B2, Its back again and is claimed by the seller to be a 'Propylhexedrine analogue (3,4-methdioxy variant) '

2) I loved the first B2 because it was very similar to meph

3) First impreswsions of this stuff is it smells exactly (from what I remember), and I mean exactly like mephedrone .....

..... So, If by chance your saw any of my older posts on the original B2 last year on this or other forums you will remember I said the same thing, smelt just like meph ........ well this smells more like meph than meph itself lol

The appearence is crystaline, a few largish chunks but mainly powder ..... not grains or dust but kind of micro shards. Its very clean looking, not brilliant but still pure white if you know what I mean, no yellow or brown tinges to it, just white whith a slight transparent quality (maybe slightly gray on 2nd inspection)

So ...... I did a line around 10 mins ago and although Im conscious of that 'this stuff is awseome Im coming up baby syndrome' which can happen on the worst of drugs ...... Right at thi moment this stuff feels alot like mephedrone, very nioce indde..... BUT - I'll reserve further judgment till later ......
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how did it go?
 
Mullered said:
Noticed a few pages back there was a brief discussion on B2. I understand that when it comes down to it, it could be anything, but hopefully some healthy discussion on this meph like compound will help get to the bottom of what it is .........

Actually I have a bit more information from the source regarding B2's composition. It is described as:

'Propylhexedrine analogue (3,4-methdioxy variant) '
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Read this thread about MD-proplyhexedrine - http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=525276 - sounds like something to avoid.

To be honest it sounds like you've just been given mephedrone that's being passed off as something else.
 
specialspack said:
Read this thread about MD-proplyhexedrine - http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=525276 - sounds like something to avoid.

To be honest it sounds like you've just been given mephedrone that's being passed off as something else.
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propylhexedrine has been implicated in cardiac arrests/fatalities, so you can be fairly certain this drug will have a similar toxicity. I wouldn't touch it with a shitty stick
 
It confuses me why people in that thread are saying 'yeah just chuck a 3,4,methylene-dioxy on to this chemical, and you might have something like MDMA'. People need to just go and buy some fucking tried and tested MDMA, and stop trying to come up with a new version of it. It's not going to happen. It's already the best entactogen on the planet. As Vektor said in that thread, it's just going to encourage vendors to sell even more dangerous shit. As for stims, there's plenty, now. Can methamphetamine, amphetamine, MPDV, MPA etc. be improved much more? There's also thousands of psychedelics. I know it's partly about legality, but none of this stuff will be legal, soon!
 
JustSayNeigh said:
"ProPyro official mephedrone replacement"

Any more info on this.
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The "official" replacement? Says who?

Hmm, yeah sure - another possibly toxic chemical or mixture of unknown chemicals from a dodgy website out to make a quick buck with no consideration for the safety of it's customers?

That do you? :|
 
Treacle said:
It confuses me why people in that thread are saying 'yeah just chuck a 3,4,methylene-dioxy on to this chemical, and you might have something like MDMA'. People need to just go and buy some fucking tried and tested MDMA, and stop trying to come up with a new version of it. It's not going to happen. It's already the best entactogen on the planet. As Vektor said in that thread, it's just going to encourage vendors to sell even more dangerous shit. As for stims, there's plenty, now. Can methamphetamine, amphetamine, MPDV, MPA etc. be improved much more? There's also thousands of psychedelics. I know it's partly about legality, but none of this stuff will be legal, soon!
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Word, couldn't agree more, I'm bored of the whole MD-like scene, I don't even take MD anymore, I'm just not interested in that type of experience that much anymore, haven't even tried 6-APB yet, even though it's apparently good.

Canfetamine got me really interested though, especially because of the opiate side, I'll wait until continental vendors stock it then I'll definately give it a go.

Last year my new RC of choice was pv, now that I'm done with that I've been really appreciating mxe, I mean it's such a well designed drug, blissful, euphoric, opiate-like in small doses and trippy and dissociated when you go up the dose scale(also I don't have any trouble holing if the dose is big enough).,
 
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