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New RCs in the UK Ver. 4: Still disappointed?

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I recall some people on here referring to o-desmethyltramadol as "M1", because it's the M1 metabolite of tramadol, but that could cause confusion with methylone. I guess "nortram" rolls off the tongue fairly easily. Personally, I'm pushing for "the other DMT".
 
I think ODT sounds alright as a name for it. Gonna have to get some and try it out myself on payday, aswell as some of that camfetamine if there are some more good reports about it and no sudden deaths in the next two weeks, lol.
 
camfet is one my mates are banging on about at the moment, they are big IV users and say it is meant to be like a instant speedball (correct me if im wrong), not that ill be finding out with a pin in my arm but if it comes along and theres a dose there for me, its gonna get put into my system one way or another!
 
I think ODT sounds alright as a name for it. Gonna have to get some and try it out myself on payday, aswell as some of that camfetamine if there are some more good reports about it and no sudden deaths in the next two weeks, lol.

ODT flies for me, I like to have smaller acronyms so when I tell people my story and what I'm on I can do it without rhyming off some chemical name that I cannot pronounce correctly.
 
camfet is one my mates are banging on about at the moment, they are big IV users and say it is meant to be like a instant speedball (correct me if im wrong), not that ill be finding out with a pin in my arm but if it comes along and theres a dose there for me, its gonna get put into my system one way or another!

It's brilliant but I wouldn't go that far! The opiate side is probably about as strong as codeine, maybe a weak morphine dose if you push it, and maybe as stimulating as 10 cups of coffee (without any jitteryness), almost like modafinal. It doesn't seem to make you chat shit and think you are king of the world like coke does. It makes you super awake and slightly noddy at the same time.
 
Out of methylone and 4-MEC which would you choose? Have read a lot about each individually, but not a lot about the two compared.
 
^^there is an opiate side to camfetamine???

Yeah definitely I would say. The opiate side to me is stronger than the stimulant side. The stimulant keeps you awake all the way through, being slightly more powerful at the beginning, and the opiate side stays with you for at least 7 hours.
 
I found 150-200mg of MDAI to be quite affective. Redosed to a similar level after a couple of hours.

Like MDMA only less stimulating.

I've love to try some MDAI with a small to moderate amount of amphetamine or anything that would release a decent amount of dopamine, because that's the only think that it feels like it's missing.

On the plus side it doesn't seem to give me much of a hangover the next day.

I guess co-administration of amphetamine would make MDAI no longer the non-neurotoxic alternative though...
 
Have you tried 4-FA yet ?
Its a decent stim with a bit more of empathic feel to it. Like a cross between MDMA and Speed. Not a sub for either but interesting in its own way

To me 4-FA was one of the best drugs i've ever taken. I am very experienced with MDMA and speed and this substance was the best of both worlds. I did a fairly high dose my first time (170mg) was going strong for about 4 hours which is when I dosed the same amount of Methylone.. which brought me feeling AMAZING for another 4 hours... holy shit best 8 hours of my life..

Only downfall was I felt like SHIIIITTT the next day but it was totally worth it to me.
 
I recall some people on here referring to o-desmethyltramadol as "M1", because it's the M1 metabolite of tramadol, but that could cause confusion with methylone. I guess "nortram" rolls off the tongue fairly easily. Personally, I'm pushing for "the other DMT".

You're pushing for "the other dmt" when someone suggested DES O 'CONNER?
Think of the tabloids...:D
 
To me 4-FA was one of the best drugs i've ever taken. I am very experienced with MDMA and speed and this substance was the best of both worlds. I did a fairly high dose my first time (170mg) was going strong for about 4 hours which is when I dosed the same amount of Methylone.. which brought me feeling AMAZING for another 4 hours... holy shit best 8 hours of my life..

Only downfall was I felt like SHIIIITTT the next day but it was totally worth it to me.

Word, it such a great drug, I've been preaching a lot about it on these forums, agreed that the mix with methylone feels great while you're on it, but it's awful the next day, try the 4-FA alone, perhaps in bigger doses, not nearly as bad of a comedown, M1 really has nasty after effects.
 
There are more deserving Desmonds than Mr O'Connor.

Tutu
Lynam
Morris

You could toot some tutu, have a line of lynam or mainline the morris.
 
If we went with tutu it could fit in nicely with the tabloid RC naming trend I suppose.

Meow-Meow, woof-woof and tutu...
 
Wasn't ODT positively identified as the active ingredient in UEI kratom? I used to buy alot of that a few years ago and found it to be very pleasant at 2 grams.

*we'll stick with ODT seems like Des O'connor aint catching on.
 
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