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New RCs in the UK Ver. 4: Still disappointed?

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I think it's pretty good as benzos go, but on the whole it's just not a particularly fun class of drugs.
 
Have you tried 5/6-apb? Certainly one to consider. MDPV is a rough ride, with a seriously brutal comedown. Gives a very nice rush if smoked though.

I've been considering them, but not entirely as there is too much speculation as to which is real or not, personally it's been a chemical that i've ignored entirely apart from way back in it's early day. What is it like?

I've heard this about MDPV, but yet I still have something inside me irking that makes me wish to try it. How long is a 500/1000mg of the stuff likely to last me once I get on the train?
 
How long is a 500/1000mg of the stuff likely to last me once I get on the train?
Depends how you use it. 15mg is a reasonable oral or intranasal dose, so ages if you keep it sensible and do it once in a while. Or, you could load up the pipe, completely lose any self-control, and stay up for a week ("pulling a Vader"). Weird drug, not particularly euphoric or pleasant but really compulsive.
 
Would you say it's a waste of money?
I want to smoke it, but these horror stories are putting me off. How does railing a small dose compared - does it become more of a drug as opposed to a fiend fest? Am I going to be compelling to dose every five minutes or can I take a bit and get on with a task for a few hours?

Maybe I'm just looking for some amphetamine.
 
Waste of money? I don't know. It depends what value you place on 18 hour long wanks. Personally, I wouldn't buy it again. It's not so fun. Snorting is less compulsive for sure, and I'd say you could probably use it as a functional stimulant (though the oral route is probably best for that). I don't have very good impulse control when it comes to stims, you are probably made of stronger stuff than me.
Maybe I'm just looking for some amphetamine.
Probably. I'd much rather have some phet than some PV.
 
Hmm, they are similarly priced so I might actually just cross that one off the list. RCs seem to have a lot of side-effects I find in comparison, which is unfortunate for something that sounds promising.
 
MDAI .....


..... not impressed. How much do you need to feel something/anything? I got up to about 350mg for a big fat nothing.
 
That's the same as me. I recall when this first came out in the headshops it was during the mephedrone craze so it's possible I only mixed it with mephedrone the majority of times I tried it. I felt very, very, very little effects, slight tingle to the head almost. With mephedrone I felt more of a stimulant buzz but that was all. Pretty much the only time I could ever recommend it is alongside mephedrone or in some form of combination.
 
I spent the day on some Camfet again yesterday. Second time was as good as the first time. Now i've gotten to grips with it a bit I hit it a bit harder than last time. The burn from sniffing it is unimaginably painful, you might as well rack up lines of pins and razor blades! On my second time it became apparent that this stuff really wouldn't suffice in a club environment, it would be a nice addition to a night down the pub, but the best use for it from my perspective is just making a normal sunday a really nice enjoyable day.

I should probably reiterate for all you pervs out there that sex is brilliant on this stuff, you get the more powerful finish that you'd expect of opiates as well as the extended finish that you generally get from stimulants if that makes sense? So like a double strength double duration kaboom! Plus instead of giving you the standard shrunken shrivelled mess it almost acts like a controllable viagra, so you can go for it as much or as little as you want. Strangely though there is no push to have sex, you've got to start it yourself.
 
I've been considering them, but not entirely as there is too much speculation as to which is real or not, personally it's been a chemical that i've ignored entirely apart from way back in it's early day. What is it like?

I've heard this about MDPV, but yet I still have something inside me irking that makes me wish to try it. How long is a 500/1000mg of the stuff likely to last me once I get on the train?

6-APB is very intense, with a delirious mindfuck that I find wonderfully euphoric. I've you've ever tried MDA, you'll know what I mean. If you're simply looking for something speedy, 6-APB isn't really it, nor is it something you'd want to use in a social environment. It's just wonderful in an entirely self-indulgent intensely sensual way.

As for MDPV, I quite enjoyed it when it was legal last year. It is euphoric, at least initially, but it does bring unpleasant psychological effects with it. Take too much and you won't be able to form sentences, nor think straight, and your short term memory just goes. However a gram ought to last you a very long time. Even if you were to binge it away, you're looking at a solid week of tweaking.
 
Thanks for the posts all, please keep them coming as they have all been very helpful.
 
I like the burn when railing, comes from mephedrone. Makes me feel like something funkys going to happen.

Got some access to o-desmethyltramadol (does this one have a shorter name yet?) What's doses with it and any trip reports flying about? Tramadol itself doesn't do much for me, never really liked it found it a weak opiate like high but with intense itches.
 
Thanks for the posts all, please keep them coming as they have all been very helpful.

Have you tried 4-FA yet ?
Its a decent stim with a bit more of empathic feel to it. Like a cross between MDMA and Speed. Not a sub for either but interesting in its own way
 
MDAI .....


..... not impressed. How much do you need to feel something/anything? I got up to about 350mg for a big fat nothing.

I found 150-200mg of MDAI to be quite affective. Redosed to a similar level after a couple of hours.

Like MDMA only less stimulating.

I've love to try some MDAI with a small to moderate amount of amphetamine or anything that would release a decent amount of dopamine, because that's the only think that it feels like it's missing.

On the plus side it doesn't seem to give me much of a hangover the next day.
 
Have you tried 4-FA yet ?
Its a decent stim with a bit more of empathic feel to it. Like a cross between MDMA and Speed. Not a sub for either but interesting in its own way

I was quite big into my Mephedrone and I take MDMA when the time is right so I'm not sure if this would be too applicable to me, I was always aware it was more of a mild stimulant.
 
I like the burn when railing, comes from mephedrone. Makes me feel like something funkys going to happen.

Got some access to o-desmethyltramadol (does this one have a shorter name yet?) What's doses with it and any trip reports flying about? Tramadol itself doesn't do much for me, never really liked it found it a weak opiate like high but with intense itches.


There's a thread on Other Drugs, http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=468973, sure I linked to it here a day or two ago.

I like this a lot, plugged especially as it kicks in quick and strong. 70mg is a fairly good plugged dose if you don't have tolerance (I don't. At least I didn't.) I've plugged up to 100mg, made me projectile vomit after a few hours but it was a "nice vomit". Snorting works but is too slow to kick in, you use about twice as much or more, and the drip makes me gag.

I can't really compare strength to anything else, I've only done opiates twice before (smoked some smack once but I didn't do it very well and my pal dropped what we had left in a puddle of spilled beer; smoked codeine too but that was years and years ago). I find it strong enough for my purposes. Everything is "as it should be" for a few hours, a glow from the inside, then that pleasant struggle to keep my eyes open which I think is what proper opiate users call the nod. And yes, pleasant itching, persisting into the next day. Not that intense for me, just "oh it's nice to scratch that itch".
 
God help you if you ever sniff something really painful - it's got a bit of a kick but it's short lived and nowhere near as bad as you describe.

I dunno, i've snorted mephedrone and mdma and those were probably half as painful as camfetamine was. Maybe it's because the stuff I have hasn't been recrystalised?
 
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