Some Questions about 5-MeO-MiPT

[killermunchies]

I just got some 5-MeO-MiPT but I have a few questions about it. This will be my first time with moxy so I don't really know what to expect. First, what is a good setting for this? Is this drug more suited for a rave or for a walk in the woods or somewhere in between? I've read a bunch of trip reports, but I still don't feel like I have a good understanding of what it will be like.

Also, what is a good dose for a first time user? The stuff I have is on blotters that are 5 mg each. In the trip reports I've read, the dosages are all over the place. Erowid says 4-6 mg is a common dose, but some people report taking 30+ mg. I want to get a good trip out of it, but I obviously don't want to overdo it. I've been thinking of either taking 7.5 mg or 10 mg. What do you guys think? For the record, I'm a 5'11" 150 lb. male.

 

[bartlebooth]

I found 5mg to be very recreational, but morish in a manner that I don't relate to other tryptamines. Next time I upped my dose to 8mg and was overwhelmed by the body load and energy.

7.5mg would probably be a fine dose for your first experience, but you might have better results in the long-term by starting with 5mg and see how that treats you first.

As far as setting is concerned, I've enjoyed a lengthy hike on both occasions, but a more social setting would work, I think. For your first experience, you might want to have a foolproof escape plan in case you begin to feel uncomfortable. At no more than 7.5mg, I think you could weather any discomfort you might experience, but you might find it more comforting to have an option of reducing external stimulation if things get uncomfortable.

If it is of any help, our weight and height are nearly the same.

 

[IamMe90]

Recommend music or love-making as setting aspects because it has a wicked body high and great synesthesia (if you you dose higher)

Personally, I started with 15 and it was very overwhelming, but I ended up really liking it. Under 10mg is more euphoric and body centered, whereas over 10 for me makes the second phase very psychedelic.

It can be a tricky substance so start lower. Expect a two-phase type trip: sort of a mild roll to start and then a shift into psychedelia. This shift might not be as pronounced at lower doses.

 

[Solipsis]

??? I definitely did NOT think that 5 mg would fit onto a blotter, are they really thick? larger than LSD blotters?

 

[Survived Abortion]

10mg is a bit on the low side for me, although my doses with this substance do seem to be somewhat unusual. It maybe a good dose to see if you react well to the body-load and wotnot, but for a good psychedelic trip you might want to push that a touch higher. Watch out for vasoconstriction with this chemical! Take some ginseng or other herbal vasodilator before dosing. This effect becomes marked at higher doses. (I feel this effect intensely at 30mg and up).

I have experience with both social and natural settings with this substance, and I can say that the out in nature setting is by far the way to go. My latest trip with this substance was outside with pretty trees, and the way the trip gently but surely built to a crescendo took my breath away. The visuals were innocently graceful, in a way that I just cannot fathom. The way it all moves through you will touch your heart.

 

[DwayneHoover]

8mg for me is nice but rather mild. At 18-22mg as IamMe90 described its like a mild roll with a euphoric body high for 2-3 hours, and then when it seems like it might be waning it shifts gears into a lovely, graceful & delicate but deep psychedelia. For me the later is characterized by an intense sensitization of all the senses, especially hearing. I remember sitting on my porch at 3am one spring and I could actually hear the magnolia tree blossum petals hitting the ground, and all sorts of party and industrial sounds wafted on the wind from miles away, it was amazng, it was like I was everywhere! The "mind's ear" is also highly enhanced. Whenever I closed my eyes it seemed I could feel a flow of thoughts and energies from around the globe, and could not help visualizing floating above the planet, seeing a purple miasma of solar wind mingling with yellowish "thought-flow" energies rising from the planet. I felt telepathic, like my third eye was wide open. In fact I even felt a spot of tingly energy in the middle of my forehead, so I wonder if it stimulates the pineal gland, whatever that really does. It was the day Albert Hoffman passed away, and people in various groups online were all talking about tripping that same night in tribute and farewell to his spirit, and it seemed like alot more people were tripping that night than usual and I could feel connections to them all, like we all were joined in one big meta-mind that was enveloping the earth with waves of cosmic love. It was amazing and one of the most beautiful and memorable experiences of my life, totally unexpected and overwhelming. Such is the power and wonder of 5-Meo-MIPT.

 

[killermunchies]

Thanks for the responses guys. I ended up doing 7.5 mg with some friends. We did it in one of my friend's houses and had a good time. I noticed that it was a very "sensory" drug. Everything felt neat to touch and sounds were enhanced and slightly warped. One of my friends that was tripping with us DJs, and we ended up messing around with the music software he uses to make weird noises and stuff. Also, I used some nitrous which gave me very noticeable synesthesia. As I was listening to a song, I could see and feel the music which was quite a strange yet interesting experience. I will probably up the dose a little next time, but it was still a very enjoyable and worthwhile trip.

??? I definitely did NOT think that 5 mg would fit onto a blotter, are they really thick? larger than LSD blotters?

The blotters were huge. I believe they were 1.5 cm x 1.5 cm. Despite their size, it was a great way to dose this drug. It saved me having to mess with a scale forever to get the doses correct.

 

[DwayneHoover]

^ Glad things worked out well, but... Say WHAT???

First of all, weighing out something on a scale is not hard and there is certainly no reason it would involve you having to "mess with a scale forever to get the dose correct." Weighing out doses on a proper mg scale is ALWAYS the right thing to do and should be easy as pie, it's not to be denigrated or discouraged.

Second, I have no idea how using a blotter to soak up a random amount of powder dissolved in a random amount of liquid would give you ANY idea how much you were doing, let alone down to the .5 mg without a scale. That makes no sense whatsoever. Please detail exactly how it was done and how you came with the idea that each one contained such an exact amount. I suppose you obtained the blotters from someone else who said they each contained 5mg, and presumably were prepared by someone else who did use a scale, perhaps one of the vendors who sells it that way, of which there are a few?

(Sorry to sound cranky, just woke up and havent had my coffee yet!)

 

[killermunchies]

^ Glad things worked out well, but... Say WHAT???

First of all, weighing out something on a scale is not hard and there is certainly no reason it would involve you having to "mess with a scale forever to get the dose correct." Weighing out doses on a proper mg scale is ALWAYS the right thing to do and should be easy as pie, it's not to be denigrated or discouraged.

Second, I have no idea how using a blotter to soak up a random amount of powder dissolved in a random amount of liquid would give you ANY idea how much you were doing, let alone down to the .5 mg. That makes no sense whatsoever. Please detail exactly how it was done and how you came with the idea that each one contained such an exact amount.

GET A SCALE, FOLKS!!!

My scale isn't really good enough to properly measure out doses this small. I would have had to weigh the stuff several times to make sure the scale was functioning properly and then dilute several doses in water to come out with a proper dose. Also, manipulating doses this small isn't always easy, as the powder tends to stick to everything. There were six of us using this and properly measuring out six doses would have taken me at least a half hour. I get very meticulous when I weigh stuff out, especially when I'm weighing out stuff for other people. I could have done that, but ripping a 10 strip into proper doses took about 10 seconds.

As for the blotters, they came pre-made by a trusted vendor. I know other people that have bought the same blotters and they are always spot on as far as anyone can tell. Many RCs are available on blotter now.

 

[DwayneHoover]

^ I see, thanks. Note that I did edit my post obviously after you started replying to be less confrontational I just wanted to encourage people to weigh things and not use approximate methods. Yea, using a pre-made blotter from a reliable vendor is a good way to go.