Why can't I register the vein?

[I Eat Pho]

I am pretty new to the world of IVing and although my first few times went perfectly it is now becoming EXTREMELY frustrating to the point where I'm so frustrated I start rushing and I know that is a recipe for disaster.

I have good veins that naturally stick out which I consider myself lucky to have. My very first time was spot on. I've done lots of homework, research, and reading on the topic before trying and I executed it perfectly the first two times. After the first two though, I have had to stab myself like 5-6 times before hitting a vein.. and it sucks cause then I have all these holes and bruising for a few days.

My question is about the angle. I've heard conflicting reports. Some say be as parallel to your arm as possible but others say 45 degree angle? I don't remember exactly what I did my first time but this is getting ridiculous and I need some advice.

I am going for the vein in dead center of the crease of my elbow. I'm shooting towards the heart. When I go to pull the plunger though I get air. I'm also pushing the needle all the way in till it hits the hilt (again conflicting reports, some say do it some say don't). I thought I'd naturally figure it out eventually but I don't want to self mutilate anymore and would really appreciate any advice.

Thanks,
Pho

 

[laCster]

nvm lol

 

[I Eat Pho]

Feet eh? I will need to research this. Thanks. Do you have any experience with this and any tips you can give?

 

[zagzig]

Fuck me. The last place I would try would be my feet. The veins are too small and fragile, even if you do get it right the rush takes forever compared to elsewhere and if you fuck up then you're limping.

 

[I Eat Pho]

Fuck me. The last place I would try would be my feet. The veins are too small and fragile, even if you do get it right the rush takes forever compared to elsewhere and if you fuck up then you're limping.

Hmmm.. that makes sense also. This is exactly the fucking problem. Always two opinions/sides to everything. Why isn't there one answer for everything. Damn the world is bullshit

 

[laCster]

Hmmm.. that makes sense also. This is exactly the fucking problem. Always two opinions/sides to everything. Why isn't there one answer for everything. Damn the world is bullshit

it might be better to listen to him because i haven't IV'd anything before...maybe try a different route if it is this frustrating? break up some lines and rail em'

 

[phatass]

def no the feet... los of risks and hard to do... do your hands shake when u iv? i shake a lot but still managee to register in the arms or hands...

u do drawback bloood? what r u iv'in?

 

[GRINCH3369]

i agree stay away from the feet unless you have a good reason to hide your tracks. my advice is get a tie off using a belt or shoelace so your veins are more dialated and more visible to hit. might be obvious to some, but i didnt need one for the first 2 yrs of iv'ing. the strategy i used was going parallel to your vein and slight angle maybe less than 45 deg. to your arm. i always pushed it in slowly until i saw blood or heard a slight "popping" sound than pulled back to register. also if your hitting the same spot you keep missing that might have to do with it. look for new veins once your tied off like behind your forearm or on your bicep and let the old ones heal for at least a few days...hope that helps

- I LOVE ME SOME PHO!

 

[I Eat Pho]

def no the feet... los of risks and hard to do... do your hands shake when u iv? i shake a lot but still managee to register in the arms or hands...

u do drawback bloood? what r u iv'in?

Yes I do shake a little.. I don't inject unless I've drawnback blood.. I keep pulling out (that's what she said) and poking myself until blood comes into the syringe when pulling the plunger back. I always make sure I'm in a vein before injecting.. but it takes me a few times to find the vein. I am IV'ng dope.

i agree stay away from the feet unless you have a good reason to hide your tracks. my advice is get a tie off using a belt or shoelace so your veins are more dialated and more visible to hit. might be obvious to some, but i didnt need one for the first 2 yrs of iv'ing. the strategy i used was going parallel to your vein and slight angle maybe less than 45 deg. to your arm. i always pushed it in slowly until i saw blood or heard a slight "popping" sound than pulled back to register. also if your hitting the same spot you keep missing that might have to do with it. look for new veins once your tied off like behind your forearm or on your bicep and let the old ones heal for at least a few days...hope that helps

- I LOVE ME SOME PHO!

I'm not concerned with hiding track marks. I haven't been tying off because my veins are pretty visible but maybe I should start to dialate them and increase my chances of hitting the first time. I find it hard to pull the plunger back unless the syringe is completely parallel to my arm and literally resting against my forearm. Do you think this is my problem? I can't think of a good way to pull the plunger back with one hand while it is floating and not resting against my forearm.

and Pho is phomazing!

 

[GRINCH3369]

yea tie your veins my ninja duhh lol! I would rest your middle finger underneath the needle that always gives me that sweet spot angle. use your other two fingers to draw back and if you still cant register after using a tie off and tilt up a lil more you just leave it alone....stay safe my ninja

 

[dank.weed]

i agree stay away from the feet unless you have a good reason to hide your tracks. my advice is get a tie off using a belt or shoelace so your veins are more dialated and more visible to hit. might be obvious to some, but i didnt need one for the first 2 yrs of iv'ing. the strategy i used was going parallel to your vein and slight angle maybe less than 45 deg. to your arm. i always pushed it in slowly until i saw blood or heard a slight "popping" sound than pulled back to register. also if your hitting the same spot you keep missing that might have to do with it. look for new veins once your tied off like behind your forearm or on your bicep and let the old ones heal for at least a few days...hope that helps

- I LOVE ME SOME PHO!

u wanna hit the veins more dormant to ur heart so ur shit dont freeze up in ur leg...
closer to ur heart, the more potentcy it has when it gets to ur brain and the less of a chance for an infection in ur blood

 

[I Eat Pho]

Thanks all. It seems that my problem is the angle. I think I've been going too parallel where instead I need to lift the back end of the syringe up a bit to get more of an angle going on. I will try this middle finger technique you speak of Grinch (or the Fuck You technique as I just coined it haha). I will try again once the bruising goes away.

 

[88brenno]

Intravenous in ya Penis

(ps dont try this at home) LOL

 

[Onthenod]

Sometimes the vein will roll to the side. What guage & needle length are you using? Try just using a tourniquet to just take a good look at all your veins. While doing this see how well they pop up & see how it feels when you press it slightly. Notice the direction the vein is going. It is also possible that you are going too deep & actually through the vein. You also need to rotate sites. It is not good to hit the same spot over & over. Make sure you are well hydrated too.

 

[I Eat Pho]

Sometimes the vein will roll to the side. What guage & needle length are you using? Try just using a tourniquet to just take a good look at all your veins. While doing this see how well they pop up & see how it feels when you press it slightly. Notice the direction the vein is going. It is also possible that you are going too deep & actually through the vein. You also need to rotate sites. It is not good to hit the same spot over & over. Make sure you are well hydrated too.

I'm using a 29g 1/2 inch. I will try the tourniquet and maybe my vein is rolling and that is the problem. I do rotate though.. i'm aware that it needs time to heal so I never hit the same spot within once week.

 

[kokaino]

---->od

 

[Coolio]

My question is about the angle. I've heard conflicting reports. Some say be as parallel to your arm as possible but others say 45 degree angle? I don't remember exactly what I did my first time but this is getting ridiculous and I need some advice.

Parallel. You want the length of the needle inside the vein. If you puncture at an angle, especially anything longer than 3/8", the needle is going to poke through the other wall of the vein. Parallel lets the needle stay inside the vein.