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mesial

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I have a close friend of mine who has tried to roll three times now with little to no success. All of his pills were tested by me with three reagents and all were clean. I have taken every one of the pills/capsules he has tried and have had wonderful times with them.

I'm twice the weight of my friend and I usually triple drop when I'm looking to have an intense experience (I'm a really big guy, 280lbs).

I encouraged my friend to up his dosage slowly with one month break in between. He started with a double drop with 1600mg piracetam and had a weak experience. Last night was his third time attempting to roll and he took 3 pokeballs and 2 weaker mollies (weighed at 100mg each but I would estimate about 50mg of actual MDMA) and then 2 more mollies an hour later. He said the intensity of his experience was 1 out of 10. He said he was sweating a little, had an eye wiggle here or there, and had increased energy. From talking with him, he didn't experience the magic that we all love.

I'm estimating he took about 300mg of MDMA first dose 100mg second dose. (of course there is no way of knowing for sure). I am suggesting to him that he preloads with piracetam for one week prior to his next time rolling.

Does anyone have any experiences like this or friends who have? To me, it doesn't seem he is releasing much serotonin? Is it safe for him to up the dosage?
 
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300-400 mg is a pretty high dosage....

Is your friend on any medication? SSRIs? doing any other drugs that cause serotonin release?
 
He works out daily and takes no medication. Only smokes herb. Doesn't make sense to me?
 
No SSRI's, he's taking valerian root, ginko, st johns wort, vitamin D, zinc, calcium, and a multivitamin.
 
I thought it upregulates serotonin receptors only?

It would differ from an SSRI as it isn't interacting with SERT directly, no?
 
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Yea I will tell him to stop taking it and replace it with piracetam. I really don't buy that the SJW is causing a muted effect. If anything it would have increased available serotonin and actually increase the risk of serotonin syndrome from its mild MAOI properties. He's only taking 600mgs, which is not a huge amount.
 
Zerouex said:
This might be an awkward question to ask and even more so to answer, but does your friend display any signs of emotional disorders? Perhaps a bit cold to the world, or like they fake their emotions on a day to day basis? I may be way out in left field... but if someone has a abnormal serotonin system that could alter their roll. Everyone actually rolls different, for some its more pronounced others not so much. Some get lots of physical feedback, others just feel the mindset change.

I've always speculated what would happen to a true sociopath who has very little emotional elasticity taking MDMA. Would it cause a flood of feelings never experienced before, or nothing because their system is unable to accept it/hit the right receptors? I have by no means any form of formal education in the matter and is just a random tidbit I'd throw in.

Definitely explore SWJ as being an issue, however I personally don't know anyone who needs 500mg+ to roll. If there's no eye wiggles at that point, and he's only done it those times, something is amiss. Overactive MAO? Once again, not a scientist but random thoughts!
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Hey guys.

Just got the link to this thread from my boy.

Ive been takin the SJW since January about 2 times a day. I know its known as a natural form of mood enhancer. I wonder if that would have any affect on my serotonin levels or how the receptors release it.

Its been very frustrating for me. First time I had tried it was new years. Took 1 molly, then 1 more an hour later. It felt like I had a vicodin and weed brownie both at the same time. Felt really good, but I didnt have the "I love you man" type of overwhelming feeling. Nor did I ever experience any rushes of body orgasms or anything similar. The second time I did it was 2 months later with my friend and his wife.Took 2 pills, then a molly an hour later, then 2 more pills an hour after that. Was a similar experience, although we had done whip its for a brief time, and during that time I experienced and almost out of body experience, was really cool. Almost like things were in slow motion but I was thinking in normal time. And music sounded really trippy. But I didnt have any euphoric feelings, and it only lasted for a few mins at most. Then third time I did it was about 3 months later at a tiesto concert. Had 2 purple butterfly pokeballs and a molly. Then a molly an hour later. Just had really bad stomach cramps and was very hot body temperature wise (even without moving around a lot or being in a crowded environment). Then fast forward to last night... Took the 3 pokeballs, 2 mollys. then hour later took 2 more mollys. Had a little bit of eye wiggles, but no euphoric feeling. :( noticed a bit of delay with my eye movement. Music sounded awesome!!! but then again I have a really nice setup for the experience. I did get sweaty palms, increased heart rate, increased body temp. But I was able to control my smiles unlike my girl that had taken 2 mollys (1, then 1 more an hour later) who peaked for 45 to 60 mins. This was her first time trying it.

So ya.... Im fucking annoyed and pissed that this "drug" gets all this hype but I cant seem to get any fucking benefit out of it. Does anyone have any advice or suggestions based off the information Ive given on how I can actually experience this "rolling" sensation?
 
Oh and I dont think Ive got any "emotional disorders"... Im pretty sure ive got ADHD though. But I dont take any medication for it.
 
Yea I would say you are probably one of the most emotionally stable people I have ever met lol
 
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2000 tran zam said:
Hey guys.

Just got the link to this thread from my boy.

Ive been takin the SJW since January about 2 times a day. I know its known as a natural form of mood enhancer. I wonder if that would have any affect on my serotonin levels or how the receptors release it.

Its been very frustrating for me. First time I had tried it was new years. Took 1 molly, then 1 more an hour later. It felt like I had a vicodin and weed brownie both at the same time. Felt really good, but I didnt have the "I love you man" type of overwhelming feeling. Nor did I ever experience any rushes of body orgasms or anything similar. The second time I did it was 2 months later with my friend and his wife.Took 2 pills, then a molly an hour later, then 2 more pills an hour after that. Was a similar experience, although we had done whip its for a brief time, and during that time I experienced and almost out of body experience, was really cool. Almost like things were in slow motion but I was thinking in normal time. And music sounded really trippy. But I didnt have any euphoric feelings, and it only lasted for a few mins at most. Then third time I did it was about 3 months later at a tiesto concert. Had 2 purple butterfly pokeballs and a molly. Then a molly an hour later. Just had really bad stomach cramps and was very hot body temperature wise (even without moving around a lot or being in a crowded environment). Then fast forward to last night... Took the 3 pokeballs, 2 mollys. then hour later took 2 more mollys. Had a little bit of eye wiggles, but no euphoric feeling. :( noticed a bit of delay with my eye movement. Music sounded awesome!!! but then again I have a really nice setup for the experience. I did get sweaty palms, increased heart rate, increased body temp. But I was able to control my smiles unlike my girl that had taken 2 mollys (1, then 1 more an hour later) who peaked for 45 to 60 mins. This was her first time trying it.

So ya.... Im fucking annoyed and pissed that this "drug" gets all this hype but I cant seem to get any fucking benefit out of it. Does anyone have any advice or suggestions based off the information Ive given on how I can actually experience this "rolling" sensation?
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