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Opioids The brown versus china white i get?

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I'm new to bluelight, but I am aware of how to use the search function. I've tried several different keywords, read the Heroin megathread and all of its similar threads, but still cant seem to find the answer to my question.

Generally, is brown (tan, darker brown, off white/brownish) powder heroin more or less potent than powder heroin that is pretty much pure white, if anything a tiny bit off white?

I just wanna know whether or not, in all of you bluelighters experiences, brown or white powder street heroin is purer? Also, if you can list any other properties that they differ in, let me know, but dont worry if it has to do with injecting because i do not inject, i insufflate all of my d.

Again, sorry if this is a repeat or if I could have found the answer using the search function, but I honestly tried.

-mcgrCONTIN
 
I imagine that the type of cut used will affect the color of the powder, so it's really hard to say. In my experience, I want to say that the slightly darker brown powder is usually better, but I've had good experiences with both.
 
Yeah see its interesting because my friend from CT actually said the exact same thing, that the dark brown (NOT the light brown) is usually the best, but i just got some pretty white to grey-white stuff that came in FAT bags and is absolute fire, better than any brown ive ever had.

So i guess i'll settle for the fact that it really all depends on alot of factors.
 
Color is absolutely no indicator of potency. You can have highly potent and weak-ass heroin that is white, light brown, dark brown, whatever. We've had discussion on this quite a bit and this is the only thing that people have agreed upon.

Even if one person is convinced the white heroin is way better in their area, what bearing does that have on you in a completely different area? Small variations in the cooking process can lead to color variation that does NOT necessarily mean a variation in potency... cuts certainly can also change the appearance as well and there are no uniform or standard cuts used everywhere.

As best, these threads are just a collection of disparate and largely irrelevant opinions/experience and at worst could be dangerous if they convince someone that heroin they might try is likely to be less potent than they expect and are prepared for.

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I changed my mind - let's see what kind of discussion on this develops :)
 
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So i guess i'll settle for the fact that it really all depends on alot of factors.
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Exactly. It can start out as white (diamorphine HCL) and be cut to any colour. Or it can start out as black (black tar heroin) and be cut to any colour. Pretty much the same goes for texture and even somewhat smell. That's why it is safest to start low every time. If it's cut with fentynal then the filler is 99.9% of the mass and therefore the colour is completely irrelevant as well.
 
ive only had tar, i live right near the mexico boarder.,well use to . but im ive only seen black and brown and the brown is cut majority of the time because its in powder form. and if its tar you can always tell how bad its cut by how gooey or hard it is. the harder and more it smells like vinegar the better at least thats my theory. ive never seen white before and most likely because its not too popular on the west coast...but i heard thats the purest form is white which makes sense because almost everything from mexico is cut bad.
http://www.intheknowzone.com/heroin/what.htm
 
In my experience, white heroin is usually bad. But when it's good, it's REALLY good
 
^ no offense at all because there's nothing wrong with sharing your thoughts and experiences, but this is the type of comment I was referencing above.

A collection of a handful of people's very limited, usually regionally-exclusive experiences provides no insight into the initial question whatsoever. You can't extrapolate from a handful of people's subjective perceptions on a topic like this and its potentially dangerous to do so (but more likely, just unhelpful).
 
This has nothing to do with anything besides personal experience,

I live out near Chicago, and most of the white shit I have gotten, almost all of it was complete garbage in my opinion. Now all of the brown shit I get pretty much on a daily basis is all in raw chunk form and its always pretty damn good. I only snort it, and my tolerance has gotten substantially much higher than it was, especially since I blow this shit on a daily basis, but to get to the point.... raw brown chunk H is much better from my personal experience. Just my experience does not mean it is much better... just from what I have come across. I have yet to see some really good white shit. I know that in its purest form it would be white though... Diacetylmorphine, the chemical in its purest, is white I believe.
 
^ Just to throw in my couple pennies - I'm also in the Chicago area and have heard other people say the tan or brown is better but the best stuff I've personally had was about as white as it could be.

My whole point in originally closing this was that experience when in comes to illicit drugs is not sufficiently predictive which can be dangerous. You and I have probably gotten shit from the same people at some point and our experiences alone differ.
 
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^ no offense at all because there's nothing wrong with sharing your thoughts and experiences, but this is the type of comment I was referencing above.

A collection of a handful of people's very limited, usually regionally-exclusive experiences provides no insight into the initial question whatsoever. You can't extrapolate from a handful of people's subjective perceptions on a topic like this and its potentially dangerous to do so (but more likely, just unhelpful).
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You are absolutely right and I completely agree. Color is certainly no clear indication of potency and it is only logical that one should sample their dope to make sure that it is not stronger than one suspects.

However, if anybody were dumb enough to misinterpret the opinions of strangers on an online forum as a guide to the potency of street heroin, then perhaps they shouldn't be using heroin in the first place. But you never know...

Anyway, just to clarify what I meant. In my experience, which is largely limited to the area I live in (central midwest), brown heroin is usually (not always) more potent than white heroin. But there have been times when I have found white heroin that was of far better quality than the traditional brown heroin usually available around here.
 
^ you're right that people shouldn't take forum comments as gospel but some do and if there isn't harm reduction value in people sharing their subjective and regionally-varying perceptions, why have the discussion?

I haven't seen anything of substantive HR value in here so I'm going to close this. If anyone would like to PM me and make the case, I'll absolutely hear you out.
 
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