America's Most Dangerous Pill? [Benzos]

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It's not Adderall or Oxy. It's Klonopin. And doctors are doling it out like candy, causing a surge of hellish withdrawals, overdoses and deaths.


America's Most Dangerous Pill?
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Originally written by Christopher Byron of The Fix
June 1, 2011


You could argue that the deadliest “drug” in the world is the venom from a jellyfish known as the Sea Wasp, whose sting can kill a human being in four minutes—up to 100 humans at a time. Potassium chloride, which is used to trigger cardiac arrest and death in the 38 states of the U.S. that enforce the death penalty is also pretty deadly . But when it comes to prescription drugs that are not only able to kill you but can drag out the final reckoning for years on end, with worsening misery at every step of the way, it is hard to top the benzodiazepines. And no "benzo" has been more lethal to millions of Americans than a popular prescription drug called Klonopin.

Klonopin is the brand name for the pill known as clonazepam, which was originally brought to market in 1975 as a medication for epileptic seizures. Since then, Klonopin, along with the other drugs in this class, has become a prescription of choice for drug abusers from Hollywood to Wall Street. In the process, these Schedule III and IV substances have also earned the dubious distinction of being second only to opioid painkillers like OxyContin as our nation's most widely abused class of drug.

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Hospital emergency room visits for benzodiazepine abuse now dwarf those for illegal street drugs by a more than a three-to-one margin. This trend has been increasing for at least the last five years. In 2006, the U.S. government’s Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration published data showing that prescription drugs that year were the number two reason for ER admissions to hospitals for drug abuse, slightly behind illicit substances like heroin and cocaine. But a survey released by the agency earlier this year claims that benzos, opioids and other prescriptions meds are now responsible for the majority of drug-related hospital visits
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Clonazepam has wreaked such havoc on people partly because it is so highly addictive; anyone who takes it for more than a few weeks may well develop a dependence on it. As a result, you can be prescribed Klonopin as a short-term treatment for, say, insomnia, and wind up so hooked on it that you’ll begin frantically “doctor shopping” for new prescriptions if the first physician who gave it for you refuses to renew the prescription. As with all benzos, use of Klonopin for more than a month can lead to a dangerous condition known as “benzodiazepine withdrawal syndrome,” featuring elevation of a user’s heart rate and blood pressure along with insomnia, nightmares, hallucinations, anxiety, panic, weight loss, muscular spasms or cramps, and seizures.

Along with Klonopin, here are the three other benzos that, by general agreement, have made it into the top ranks of the world’s worst and most widely abused drugs: temazepam, alprazolam, and lorazepam.

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You can buy any of these "feel-good" drugs without a doctor's signature by simply typing the name into any Internet search engine. Instantly, you’ll be presented with dozens of websites, both foreign and domestic, where you can make your purchase, no prescription required. (Most of the websites accept all major credit cards.)

Continued at AlterNet
 
But when it comes to prescription drugs that are not only able to kill you but can drag out the final reckoning for years on end, with worsening misery at every step of the way, it is hard to top the benzodiazepines.

Great quote! What does it mean though?
 
LSDMDMA&9709804 said:
^yeah
temazepam seems WAY stronger (not mg for mg, but in effects) for me

Agreed. Temazepam isn't scripted nearly as often as Xanax, Ativan, Klonopin and Valium are (at least in the U.S.)
 
^yeah, i had a temazepam script...and i "overdosed" on temazepam and thus dont have the script anymore
(i'm US)
those temazepam 30s seem stronger than any benzo i've ever tried (but ive yet to try xanax, or valium, just ativan klonopin and restoril). a temazepam 30 feels at least as strong as a mg of klonopin, if not 1.5
 
As a result, you can be prescribed Klonopin as a short-term treatment for, say, insomnia, and wind up so hooked on it that you’ll begin frantically “doctor shopping” for new prescriptions if the first physician who gave it for you refuses to renew the prescription.

That's not really doctor shopping, now is it. Doctor shopping is going to multiple doctors for the same thing during the same time, not going to a new doctor because you are not happy with the treatment methods of the previous one.
 
this kind of sensationalizing really irks me. don't get me wrong, i do think that benzos are a little over-prescribed. but "america's most dangerous pill?" jeez. it just sucks that it takes that kind of hyperbole to get people to pay attention to something that should be self-evident: americans would rather take a pill than affect meaningful lifestyle changes to address the causes of their illnesses.
 
What year did the Stones come out with "Mother's Little Helper"? Sometime in the 60's I think? That was about valium.

Nothing wrong with benzos. Like any drug, there needs to be responsible use and monitoring. I have to agree with damonoxide, this is a rather sensationalized one sided story.

Shit like this makes me upset and need a xanax just thinking about it. :D :D
 
It's not Adderall or Oxy. It's Klonopin. And doctors are doling it out like candy, causing a surge of hellish withdrawals, overdoses and deaths.

Um... I've been prescribed Klonopin on/off for for 15 years. I still never take more than 4mgs a day (2 morning, 2 night). I don't take it everyday. Only days I know that I will be absolutely stressed or a certain day or if I'm having difficultly sleeping.And I have yet to display ANY type of withdrawal from it.

Now, if I don't get a can of Pepsi or bottle of NOS a day, that's a different story.

So I'd really like to know what this whole "oooh, I get WD's from not having my Klonopin"

Seriously, I'm prescribed 60 a month and I've got months and months worth stocked up because I refill but I never use the entire bottle.

But if I don't have caffeine, I'm not cool to be around at all.

Clonazepam has wreaked such havoc on people partly because it is so highly addictive; anyone who takes it for more than a few weeks may well develop a dependence on it.

Yes. Hence, only use when you actually need it, not when you make up excuses for why you think you will need it.

As a result, you can be prescribed Klonopin as a short-term treatment for, say, insomnia, and wind up so hooked on it that you’ll begin frantically “doctor shopping” for new prescriptions if the first physician who gave it for you refuses to renew the prescription.

It basically helps if I have racing thoughts at night. I had the problem LONG before I ever took Klonopin, Ambien, Lunesta, Trazadone or any other drug.

I thought I was strange for having the "Tiger Woods" effects on Ambien, so I stopped taking it. Lunesta just stopped working, so I stopped taking it. Trazodone is great if I was unable to sleep the night before because it knocks me out for a good 12+ hours.

However, Klonopin and Valium have by far been the most beneficial.

And I have yet to go doctor shopping after having been prescribed it on/off since I was 16 years old.

And it's not that I can't sleep or really have insomnia. It's that my body doesn't want to sleep on a EST, which is hard to manage considering that I live on the East Coast of the USA.

I've been that way LONG before I ever saw a psychiatrist. And my sleep issues/depression are why I started seeing one in the first place.

As with all benzos, use of Klonopin for more than a month can lead to a dangerous condition known as “benzodiazepine withdrawal syndrome,” featuring elevation of a user’s heart rate and blood pressure along with insomnia, nightmares, hallucinations, anxiety, panic, weight loss, muscular spasms or cramps, and seizures.

You don't lose weight because you stop using Klonopin. You lose weight after discontinuing it's use because one of the effects of it is that it increases your appetite. And gee, why would someone who takes a benzodiazapine prescribed for general anxiety have anxiety/panic attacks after discontinuing it's use???

As for the rest of those symptoms, I know I am not that different from anyone else, and I don't get any of those symptoms.

However, I'm certainly not immune to the negative effects and/or withdrawals of opiates, cocaine, amphetamines, psychedelic amphetamines, et cetera. So again, I am going to chalk these "withdrawal symptoms" to the fact that they're symptoms of general anxiety attacks, which Klonopin is prescribed for.

Along with Klonopin, here are the three other benzos that, by general agreement, have made it into the top ranks of the world’s worst and most widely abused drugs: temazepam, alprazolam, and lorazepam.

You really can't "abuse" temezepam". At the dosage that would be required to get "high", you would be getting extremely close to the overdose threshold.

I don't know anyone that's ever been prescribed lorazepam, so I can't speak of it. And alprazolam... okay. But I don't know anyone who is prescribed Vicodin or Percocet that doesn't use it recreationally from time to time. The only reason Xanax would be abused more is simply because it's prescribed more often and for longer periods of time.

And I have been prescribed it and I've turned it down. I just need to keep calm during stressful days, I'm not looking for a quick fix to a panic attack.....

You can buy any of these "feel-good" drugs without a doctor's signature by simply typing the name into any Internet search engine. Instantly, you’ll be presented with dozens of websites, both foreign and domestic, where you can make your purchase, no prescription required. (Most of the websites accept all major credit cards.)

Thanks for the insight! Now tell me where I can find some legitimate sites to order affordable Dilaudid, brand name OxyContin, Fentanyl patches, et cetera, because I really don't look at benzos as "feel-good" drugs. They're more like "don't feel" drugs.
 
You could argue that the deadliest “drug” in the world is the venom from a jellyfish known as the Sea Wasp, whose sting can kill a human being in four minutes—up to 100 humans at a time. Potassium chloride, which is used to trigger cardiac arrest and death in the 38 states of the U.S. that enforce the death penalty is also pretty deadly . But when it comes to prescription drugs that are not only able to kill you but can drag out the final reckoning for years on end, with worsening misery at every step of the way, it is hard to top the benzodiazepines. And no "benzo" has been more lethal to millions of Americans than a popular prescription drug called Klonopin

Imagine that guy that does all the voice for all the horror movie previews reading that overly dramatic bullshit..."And that drug is called.........KLONOPIN!, This summer, it's gonna rip you a new K-Hole!" I can see that happening.

Yeah, this article targetting Klonopin is just not very well informed. I am sure if they did some research and asked a few rehab clinics which benzo did the most damage they would of gotten a different response.
 
What year did the Stones come out with "Mother's Little Helper"? Sometime in the 60's I think? That was about valium.

it was Nembutal (pentobarbital) actually

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and though she's not really ill
there's a little yellow pill
she goes running for the shelter
of a mother's little helper


great song
great drug

Valium is dung
 
I don't understand why they single out clonazepam. I've used oxazepam, alprazolam, diazepam and now clonazepam regulary (and phenazepam rarely). I now use 3 mg clonazepam every day and have used it for a couple of years, for generalized anxiety disorder and panic disorder. I find it to be the benzo best suited for me; it has a long half life, quite long effects, is not as sedating as e.g. diazepam and doesn't produce as bad withdrawal as benzo's with a short half-life, e.g. alprazolam.

When I used alprazolam, I had to take it 4 times a day. Now with clonazepam 2 times a day is enough. Sure, I'm addicted to it, but it has helped me a lot and still does. Benzo's really do help a lot of people. And they're far from the most toxic prescription medicines, in fact they're not really toxic at all. Compare benzo's to e.g. neuroleptics which when regularly used cause brain damage and increases the risk for diabetes, benzo's are not that bad compared to those.
 
Thank goodness I never enjoyed benzos. Ive taken Ativan a few times with Vicodin but didnt like the high as much as other people enjoyed it. Benzos are not for me.
 
Um... I've been prescribed Klonopin on/off for for 15 years. I still never take more than 4mgs a day (2 morning, 2 night). I don't take it everyday. Only days I know that I will be absolutely stressed or a certain day or if I'm having difficultly sleeping.And I have yet to display ANY type of withdrawal from it.

Now, if I don't get a can of Pepsi or bottle of NOS a day, that's a different story.

So I'd really like to know what this whole "oooh, I get WD's from not having my Klonopin"

Seriously, I'm prescribed 60 a month and I've got months and months worth stocked up because I refill but I never use the entire bottle.

But if I don't have caffeine, I'm not cool to be around at all.

Are you seriously trying to imply that benzodiazepines are less addictive than caffeine? Are you out of your mind or are you just plain [edited for civility] stupid?

Benzodiazepine withdrawal is potentially deadly! It can induce seizures among other horrible effects. It is an extensively studied withdrawal syndrome that is recognized by the orthodox medical community, how much more evidence could you possibly need?

The following list of withdrawal symptoms is taken from the wiki article on benzo withdrawal:

The following symptoms may emerge during gradual dosage reduction but can usually be reduced in intensity or eliminated altogether by reducing the rate of reduction:

* Anxiety, possible terror and panic attacks[17][36]
* Agitation and restlessness[17]
* Hypochondriasis[17]
* Dilated pupils[4]
* Impaired concentration[36]
* Nightmares[37]
* Insomnia[37]
* Muscular spasms, cramps or fasciculations[38]
* Electric shock sensations[3][39]
* Blurred vision[17]
* Dizziness[17]
* Dry mouth[17]
* Aches and pains[17]
* Hearing impairment[17]
* Taste and smell disturbances[17]
* Chest pain[17]
* Flu like symptoms[17]
* Impaired memory and concentration[17]
* Increased sensitivity to touch[40]
* Increased sensitivity to sound[17]
* Sounds louder than usual[40]
* Objects moving[40]
* Increased urinary frequency[17]
* Numbness and tingling[17]
* Hot and cold flushes[17]
* Headache[36]
* Rebound REM sleep[41]
* Stiffness[17]
* Fatigue and weakness[17]
* Hyperosmia[42]
* Restless legs syndrome[11]
* Metallic taste[42]
* Photophobia[42]
* Paranoia[42]
* Hypnagogia-hallucinations[6]
* Nausea and vomiting[37]
* Elevation in blood pressure[43]
* Tachycardia[44]
* Hypertension[45]
* Postural hypotension[37]
* Depression (can be severe),[46] possible suicidal ideation
* Tremor[47][48]
* Perspiration[36]
* Loss of appetite and weight loss[49]
* Dysphoria[50][51]
* Depersonalization[52][53]
* Derealisation (Feelings of unreality)[40]
* Obsessive compulsive disorder[54][55]
* Tinnitus[56]
* Paraesthesia[40][42][53]
* Visual disturbances[53]
* Mood swings[17]
* Indecision[17]
* Gastrointestinal problems (Irritable bowel syndrome)[57][58][59]

An abrupt or over-rapid discontinuation of benzodiazepines may result in a more serious and very unpleasant withdrawal syndrome that may additionally result in:

* Convulsions, which may result in death[60][61]
* Catatonia, which may result in death[62][63][64]
* Coma[65] (rare)
* Suicide[5][66][67]
* Attempted suicide[53]
* Suicidal ideation[68]
* Self harm[53]
* Hyperthermia[37]
* Delusions[69]
* Homicide ideations[70]
* Urges to shout, throw, break things or to harm someone[17]
* Violence[71]
* Post Traumatic Stress Disorder[11]
* Organic brain syndrome[72]
* Psychosis[73][74]
* Confusion[35]
* Mania[75][76]
* Neuroleptic malignant syndrome like event[77][78] (rare)
* Delirium tremens[79][80][81]
 
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Love in vein, have you never tried temazepam?
define overdose, i "overdosed" on temazepam when i blacked out and apparently popped 20 30mg caps...90mg (which if you dont have a benzo tolerance will have you FUCKED, stumbling/slurring, teh whole 9 yards...) isnt close to overdose amounts...
Flunitrazepam is schedule 3
 
They just ignore the real elephant in the room, alprozolam, easily the most addictive drug with the most protracted and serious withdrawal symptoms out of any drug in history.
 
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