Stimulants Splitting an Adderall XR

[Sadriam]

Okay so i started taking 20mg Adderall XR orally (I am not prescribed to this, my friend gives them to me), and for the first week it was working very well. I would take it at about 7:30. Usually about an hour to and hour and a half after taking it, i would feel a peak, where i felt like i was in a slight dream state, and then get a sudden boost of energy and desire to do tasks, work, etc. I also very very happy, alert, and conscience. After about an hour of this peak, it would calm down, and i felt very energized, awake, and ready to do tasks without the weird dream like feeling. I very much enjoyed the way this 20mg capsule played out. The effects would just about wear off at night around 9, and i would still be pretty awake and not sleep until 10 or 11, which was fine.

However i stopped experiencing this effect the way i liked it. I would still get a descent desire for work (main reason i take it), however i did enjoy feeling the descent energy boost and speedy feeling. So i took 2 20mg Adderall XRs orally. This brought back the feeling of when i first did 20mg, plus about 50% of that effect on top of it (I wouldn't say plus 100% because i had a slight tolerance obviously). I did not really enjoy this too much because i got a little too nervous and started to panic and my heart rate went a little too high for my liking. I simply didn't need the full 40mg. However i highly suspect 30mg would be just right for what i need.

Now i know the deal about how XR has beads, and half are triggered instantly while the other is triggered about 4 hours after consumption. And i know that if you were to simply split the beads in half, you could get unequal proportions of each.

So finally, my question to you guys is if i crush the beads into a powder and mix the powder, the instant release and time release would all be combined in one powder mixture (now that i think about it, all of it may be instant release now because i think the only difference between the time release beads and instant is a thin coating over the time release, but im not sure), and so could I take half of that either in an empty capsule, parachute, shot, etc?

I just can't get anything besides these 20mg capsules, so im really trying to figure this out, and i hope you can help.

Thanks

 

[GdaddyP]

i just chew my XR if i want it to be IR. just chew on the pill with the beads inside. It tastes like nasty sweetness and some might get stuck in your teeth but it will dissolve and will work. Be carefull with addys man. your on the road to boosting your tollerance. With adderall, the initial high, confidence, excitement and nonstop talking you get when you first take the pill will lose effect within a week or so and you will have to keep on upping your dose. Tolerance is hard to lose with adderall.
Adderall holds its effects for focus and energy but the high it gives you when first taking it will lose effect. Dont take everyday because you will eventually need it to function normally.
Try to get it prescribed if needed for ADD but if you get it prescribed to get high, you will just fuck your life up and will need more and more pills for the high it gave you for the first week.
Snorting addy powder will probably get you buzzin again but this also increases tolerance but less is needed and effects are shorter. But be careful man.

 

[psychopath]

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=223791

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=223791

check those threads out.

I would consider taking some calcium carbonate, sodium bicarbonate or something similar with a 20 mg before doing anything else.

 

[GdaddyP]

taking Tums or 1-2 tsp Baking soda an hour before taking the adderall will help the amphets absorb into the bloodstream and could show a big increase in % of amphets in your system. this also creates tolerance sadly. i say, only get high off of addys for social events like a party or club. you will eventually not get high anymore if taken everyday

 

[Sadriam]

Well would you consider what i desire a high? I mean i don't really have a rush, i just feel energized as if i had a bunch of caffeine, except the energy feels more natural and helpful. I know you could take a lot of IR and get a legit, really intense speed rush, but im not looking for that kind of rush. Just some more energy. I do not want a head high, head rush, or buzz. And even on the 40mg i didnt get much a head rush really, but it simply was too much adderall for me at least for the amount of time i have been taking it so far. It made me too nervous and paranoid.

I have heard of the baking soda and tums, and i was willing to try it, but i wasn't sure exactly how much i should take of either the baking soda or tums. I hear it can be slightly random, and the boost from it can vary from like 30%-70% increase in effectiveness. I am very skinny and weigh only 120 lbs. Also, is this safer than simply putting more adderall in me? Like is it the same effect on the body as taking more adderall, or is it easier on the body?

And I do not prefer it to be instant release, but i just figured it would be the safest bet to getting a balanced release of Adderall by crushing it up. Obviously this would cause it to be instant release, but i do not want to take an entire 20mg on IR. Just 10mg IR, maybe even less, and 20mg XR.

I dont know, im kinda stuck here. I very much appreciate the advice, im just trying to narrow it down to what i should really do

 

[Urgez]

Well would you consider what i desire a high? I mean i don't really have a rush, i just feel energized as if i had a bunch of caffeine, except the energy feels more natural and helpful. I know you could take a lot of IR and get a legit, really intense speed rush, but im not looking for that kind of rush. Just some more energy. I do not want a head high, head rush, or buzz.

in my experience, there are only really two desirable effects from adderall: focus / energy and euphoria (as you said yourself: dreamy, feeling very very happy and speedy). if you say you still get the first effect of focus/energy... then, in regards to your first question, i would consider what you desire a "high". the more subtle factor, however, is your perception of this desire. you may not realize it yet, but there's the rational desire and the irrational desire (take a guess which one you have less control over). the rational is the one saying: "well i only really need it for specific activities, but i could always use more energy." unfortunately, the irrational craves, on a physiological level, the high you claim to not desire (but IMO that's kind of what you're looking for, semantics aside).

I have heard of the baking soda and tums, and i was willing to try it, but i wasn't sure exactly how much i should take of either the baking soda or tums. I hear it can be slightly random, and the boost from it can vary from like 30%-70% increase in effectiveness. I am very skinny and weigh only 120 lbs. Also, is this safer than simply putting more adderall in me? Like is it the same effect on the body as taking more adderall, or is it easier on the body?

you don't need very much baking soda for this purpose, a teaspoon or even less will do the trick. i take 2-3 tums about 45 min before dosing (30 min sometimes when im impatient lol). in general, waiting 45-60 seems to be the consensus. IMO, the less adderall you put in your body the better. because these absorption rates vary so much, you can't reliably gauge what's going to end up hitting the bloodstream. better safe with potentiating than boosting your tolerance unnecessarily.

And I do not prefer it to be instant release, but i just figured it would be the safest bet to getting a balanced release of Adderall by crushing it up. Obviously this would cause it to be instant release, but i do not want to take an entire 20mg on IR. Just 10mg IR, maybe even less, and 20mg XR.

is there something limiting you from crushing one pill for IR use and taking a second for the XR?

 

[ellua]

Well would you consider what i desire a high?

yes. but what you want can't be as bad as what a "real" speed addict is after, right? most of them started out thinking the exact same thing.

if you're able to control this long term and not increase the size & frequency of your doses, congratulations, you've done what every addict was sure they could do too.

i don't mean to sound bleak but i've been there with addy, and i managed to get euphoria from 20-30mg per day for about 3 years before i started ramping up... then i went from 40mg to 240mg every day, practically overnight, for over 2 years straight. all i wanted was to get thru my day at the office feeling productive.

i agree with urgez, definitely try potentiating the lowest dose you can manage before upping the dose. i'm maintaining @ 80mg/day now and still take tums and/or baking soda (at least 1/2 tsp) before each of my doses (40mg @ 8am, 20mg @ noon, 20mg @ 5PM).

 

[Urgez]

i'm maintaining @ 80mg/day now and still take tums and/or baking soda (at least 1/2 tsp) before each of my doses (40mg @ 8am, 20mg @ noon, 20mg @ 5PM).

you know.. i just had my first day of that exact dose, 40mg > 20 > 20 through out the day. but i've been on this stuff (in a serious enough way) for only a year id say: binging annihilates your tolerance. i'd love to be able to get back to a therapeutic dose at this point but i've built up this binge tolerance to the point where i really have to either take weeks off to ween myself down or skip days and take what i NEED (way more than it should be) to get that "high".

 

[whippa craka]

Okay so i started taking 20mg Adderall XR orally (I am not prescribed to this, my friend gives them to me), and for the first week it was working very well. I would take it at about 7:30. Usually about an hour to and hour and a half after taking it, i would feel a peak, where i felt like i was in a slight dream state, and then get a sudden boost of energy and desire to do tasks, work, etc. I also very very happy, alert, and conscience. After about an hour of this peak, it would calm down, and i felt very energized, awake, and ready to do tasks without the weird dream like feeling. I very much enjoyed the way this 20mg capsule played out. The effects would just about wear off at night around 9, and i would still be pretty awake and not sleep until 10 or 11, which was fine.

However i stopped experiencing this effect the way i liked it. I would still get a descent desire for work (main reason i take it), however i did enjoy feeling the descent energy boost and speedy feeling. So i took 2 20mg Adderall XRs orally. This brought back the feeling of when i first did 20mg, plus about 50% of that effect on top of it (I wouldn't say plus 100% because i had a slight tolerance obviously). I did not really enjoy this too much because i got a little too nervous and started to panic and my heart rate went a little too high for my liking. I simply didn't need the full 40mg. However i highly suspect 30mg would be just right for what i need.

Now i know the deal about how XR has beads, and half are triggered instantly while the other is triggered about 4 hours after consumption. And i know that if you were to simply split the beads in half, you could get unequal proportions of each.

So finally, my question to you guys is if i crush the beads into a powder and mix the powder, the instant release and time release would all be combined in one powder mixture (now that i think about it, all of it may be instant release now because i think the only difference between the time release beads and instant is a thin coating over the time release, but im not sure), and so could I take half of that either in an empty capsule, parachute, shot, etc?

I just can't get anything besides these 20mg capsules, so im really trying to figure this out, and i hope you can help.

Thanks

NOT SMART! Your chasing the high that you were first recieving when you started taking Adderall, and it's the worst thing you can do with that drug. Try not taking it for a few days and then see how you feel

20mg XR is doing much more then you think, trust me. Sick with that dosage.

 

[onlytheblue]

Never takin adderall before but have a 25mgXR...what's the best way to take it? Was planning on also doin the tums trick too...Im not big into the "speed" type of high. I like a rush and eurphoric feeling. Also planin on takin some kpins with it at some point. Any thoughts? Crush the adderall and snort or chew or just swallow the pill?