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Is anyone else over psychedelics?

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Is anyone else over psychedelics?

I took 2C-E on Sat., and on Sun MXE. The latter BLEW AWAY the former, and here's why: while 2CE lasts something like 7-10 hours, has a long drawn out psychedelic feel that really distances you from your physical surroundings (other than visually), and generally makes you feel wierd and of course there's that extreme nausea, MXE has minimal side effects (physiologically), gives one a vivid sense of hallucination and an overall astral-travel trip that I'm sure is second rate only to K and DMT/DPT, which I've never done. And it lasts like 3-5 hours.

In terms of dosing, the 2ce was 12-14 mg, the MXE around 120; 1st time with the 2ce, btw. But the 2CE just kept reminding me of why i don't take mushrooms or acid anymore. I'm over them, the experience is no longer fun, there's nothing new with them, just long, annoying trips. MXE will run its course as well, but at least it's new and very very different. I thought the 2CE would be different, being a PEA, but it wasn't; it felt just like acid, with a shitty body load. Thus, I think I'm over most psychedelics. Are they all like that? What is left that feels qualitatively different? I'm holding out for DMT and DPT, K as well (fingers crossed) but I'm not sure what out there will still deliver the insight, fun and introspective mental playground and inspiration that I want from a drug, because LSD, psilocybin, and low-ish doses of 2CE don't do it for me. And technically, neither does MXE, it just is kinda cool.

Feel free to comment, but mostly this was just a rant. Thanks for reading...
 
Yea im done w/ that shit for sure, nothing left in it for me , i like shit with feeling like a little blow
N som dope
 
DMT is exactly what you're looking for my friend, trust me. the experience is incredible, and it is by far the best thing i've done.
 
Nope. Going on 12 years.

Haven't taken a serotonergic psych in over 2 years, however. Just dissociatives. I think it's about time we dig up that bone again...

I second the DMT comment. If you really want to go over the top you can't go wrong with a gram of DMT and 300ug of clean L.
 
38slug said:
Yea im done w/ that shit for sure, nothing left in it for me , i like shit with feeling like a little blow
N som dope
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A little feeling? Blow? LMfao this is a joke.

I love hedonistic stimulant drugs as much as the next joe but to be "over" psychedelics in favor of blow is just sad.
 
uhhmm im gunna go ahead and say that people posting on a psychedelic forum aren't exactly "over" psychedelics.
 
2CE's magic isn't felt until 18mg, the dose-response curve is HUGE.

22mg for truly insightful astral travel, and personal growth.

DPT, DIPT, any of the other newer substitued tryptamines, these all have value. Making a blanket statement like saying "I'm over serotonergic psychedelics" without having sampled these in the VERY least, is a touch short-sighted in my opinion.

These things never permanently outlive their usefulness. My opinion, you're of course free to feel otherwise.
 
2c-e does cause a significant amount of untoward gastric effects in some people, but many do find it very "clean" feeling. Tryptamines often times have less subjective bodyload than the 2 carbon PEAs. I think its more of a matter of finding what specifically jives with you. Things like 4-AcO-DMT & 4-HO-MiPT seem to offer a lot of the same type of introspection (albeit more emotional) as 2c-e (which IME is mostly emotionally neutral), without as much body load. Though the body load issue is pretty intensely personal, some people get on better with tryptamines, some with phenethylamines. For me, i tend to get pretty bad gas from tryptamines with an isopropyl group, and 2c-t-x's tend to give me more body load than 2c-x's, but that's just me. Some people i know get no body load from 2c-t-2, 2c-e, 2c-p etc, but throw up after taking tryptamines.

And yeah, DMT is probably the most immersive psychedelic i've tried, pretty light on the body too.
 
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i agree with the DMT, altho sometimes my heart gets crazy fast on it, and there's been times where i've taken adderall or caffeine within a few hours of doing DMT, and my heart rate has gone some crazy speeds. a very rapid hear beat always scares me, so i try not to do any type of stimulants the same day of doing DMT anymore.
 
I was surprised when one day I realized that I find dissociatives much more valuable as an introspective tool than psychedelics.

To me psychedelics are fun as hell still though, but its delusional fun.

Edit: I take that back... psychedelics really helped me to be more open minded, that phase was just so long ago... they are almost only novelty and recreation to me now though.
 
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Answer: Yes, I am over psychedelics. As I've grown older and learned about real danger and so forth, psychedelics caused me to hone in on dangers around me, and that's just no fun. I had a fair run. I'm not complaining. LSD at Pink Floyd, Grateful Dead, Blue Oyster Cult, were all wonderful experiences. But I was a naive teenager.

Now I know a lot more about the trouble LSD and hallucinations can give me. Being 52 and unemployed in this economy has caused me to stay well clear of LSD, since it only magnifies my problems inside my mind until I think I'll lose control of myself and run screaming into the darkness.
 
mescaline, while not for everyone is the original PEA....the grandfather molecule, as i've heard it called. the 2cs and amphetamine alterations are deformed cousins....lol

it may not be right for you to trip anymore, but as others have said, there is quite varying experiences between each chemical...there are also many plants which are less commonly consumed that have profound mental effects.
 
Try a higher dose. Or DMT like others have said. Nitrous should help you reach a higher peak if thats what you want. I'd suggest trying salvia though, I find it very interesting. I'm sure a couple big lungfuls a few hours after dropping your acid would probably be enough to spark some new respect for psychedelics.
 
I've gradually been moving away from them.. but that goes for most drugs in general.

I had a very intense two years of psychedelic use, i must of done LSD a couple of hundred times in that time period.. DMT was really the pinnacle point as far as my psychedelic adventures went, the breakthrough experience was so profound that i went through major lifestyle shifts in the following year. I would highly second all those who have suggested DMT, it may just provide exactly what it is your looking for.

Have fun, take care :)
 
atara said:
Denigrating psychedelics when you've only had 2C-E is like denigrating hamburgers when you've only had McDonald's. Sure, at least it's greasy, but...
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What, seriously?

Come on... 2c-e is a marvelous chemical that has a lot of different applications and the potential for very deep and actually useful introspective experiences. The visual and auditory components are leagues above most other psychedelics... I don't understand this analogy at all.

If I had to correct your food analogy, I would say 2c-e is like a child's vegetables - not fun or tasty, but good for you. Compared to a lot of other PEA's, at least - and even some tryptamines.
 
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