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Phenethylamines [2C-E Subthread] 2C-E Set and Setting

Please don't feed your dog drugs - just take them yourself. We don't do all that stupid SWIM/my monkey's aunt's cousin's pet rhino Harold bollocks on BL - it provides no legal protection which just makes it pointless and also kinda irritating to read ;)

You really should try taking it yourself as animal experiments are not the same as human ones :)
 
I find that 2C-E is ideal for exploratory trips. This means several things for me:
-being outside is better than being inside
-being physically active is better than sitting
-being relatively alone is better than being around a lot of people
-being around NEW things is invariably desirable

Since I have an aversion to taking mushrooms in cities, 2C-E is my go-to for an experience that is similar to mushrooms but still urban-friendly. I'd take it at a rave if it was offered to me by someone I trusted and I felt like it at the time, but if I only had a small amount, I'd save it for an early-evening walk with a friend or two around in less-populated areas in the city ... that's the best use for it I can think of.
 
My only experience with 2C-E was at a rave and I took 12mg. It was an amazing experience. The bodyload got to me until about T+1:45 but after that bodyload was gone and it was pure stimulation. Im fairly experienced with psychedelics so it was definately a good dose for a rave.
 
Although most of my 2C-E use has been at home, I've taken it three times while at shows. The first time was about 10mg at a small outdoor fest. It was evening & I was also doing some very nice MDMA as well as smoking some 5-meo-DMT & plenty of weed, as well as a good amount of Jack Daniels. This was a rather confusing night - it was OK, but not quite how I prefer. Quite frankly, I don't recall much... I'm sure the alcohol really contributed to this effect. The second experience was 14mg at a Furthur show at a large indoor sports stadium. Took a Benadryl about 10 mins before ingesting the 2C-E and I hadn't eaten for 3 or 4 hours, so I had little or no nausea. I did feel a little uncertain about things as I first came up but settled in fine once I stopped trying to observe the effects and just let it happen. The music sounded awesome! Sociability was good, I was comfortable with the confusion of the venue & the lot scene, and I initiated conversations with a lot of strangers. The ride home on the train was quite amusing. Third time in public was at a Wookiefoot show - only about 8mg 2C-E plus 80mg 4-FA. The dose was enough to let me feel it but not enough to make the small venue seem too confining. The combined effects were good but left me feeling that I should have done more 2C-E and less 4-FA. It takes much trial & error to dial in the right combos.

My overall take is that low doses in the right public environment can be quite enjoyable, while higher doses are best left for controlled, private explorations. Of course, this is the general rule, right....?
 
FACT: there is a lethal batch of 2c-e floating around in the US currently. 8 confirmed deaths within the last 2 weeks have been reported...STAY AWAY<3
 
tweakyb said:
My only experience with 2C-E was at a rave and I took 12mg. It was an amazing experience. The bodyload got to me until about T+1:45 but after that bodyload was gone and it was pure stimulation. Im fairly experienced with psychedelics so it was definately a good dose for a rave.
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I did exactly 12mg at a rave 3 days ago and it was ABSOLUTELY AMAZING! It was a wonderful experience full of insight and pure awesomeness. At one point I thought everybody was in love with me and the CEV were beautiful. I'm thinking on making a trip report sometime but I still feel I forgot most of my very nice realizations about people and life in general.

Overall, no body load, very introspective but still friendly, benevolent and lovely, super CEV and a smooth comedown. I still think it isn't for everyone but you have the power to stay focused and make it the best trip of your life. With a fuzzy or confused mindset, the people around you may eventually influence your trip but you are the one to choose what direction you take.

Not for everyone, know yourself and know your drug. Me, I keep an extremely positive impression of this drug. If you like dancing, the music will take you higher and higher and it will sound heavenly well! :)
 
I was in my own introspective world most of the time, but I was social when I felt like it. The best way I can describe my experience is: I went to outer space and back while being one with the universe. The music was beautiful, especially since I was at the Trance (my favorite genre) stage for most of the event. Such an amazing time. I look forward to future experiences with this wonderful substance.
 
I had a very interesting experience walking around alleys in a poor area of Shanghai on a 20mg dose. It was very dirty and I was stared at by everyone (because foreigners basically never go there) so I was anxious at times, but overall it was incredibly interesting seeing such different living conditions while tripping. I wil never forget how intense the smells were, either.
 
I think 2C-E is one of the most set-sensitive psychedelics. Even more than some tryptamines. At least its mindspace is a little more forgiving so a bad experience doesn't hit that deep.
Used with care it's a really colorful, wisdom-about-every-day-life-sharing introspective-tool, which I think is in fact the reason for its high set-sensitivity.

It helps me a lot to realize which things I need to get fixed for my internal freedom.
 
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I don't think that 2C-E is a social drug. In fact, if you have to care about other people, or if you have to do some kind of the social stuff - choose other drugs. Other 2C-s might be ok.

... But if you're going to do it alone, then you have the chance to feel all the power of 2C-E. 2C-E is a very good introspective drug, and suitable for solo trip.
How's 2C-E when done alone by yourself?
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So I see no problem here. Happy trails ;)

What will be your dose? Will this be your first time doing 2C-E?
 
Hey, thanks for the advice!

It will be my second time and I was thinking of taking about 17mg... :D

My first time was 12mg at a rave and I gave a quick overview earlier in this thread. 2C-E has been great with me so far and I can't wait to go deeper into its potential.
 
I'm going to be trying my first dose of this seemingly amazing compound alone, in a small house. I plan to be outside as often as I please, and I expect many good things. Any specific advice on how to make my experience more valuable as a psychonaut? Bear in mind it will be my first time, so I want to do this LARGE.
 
I guess just like most people I started all of my first 2C-E experiments in the evening, at home, alone, which was always nice and good, but just not that overwhelming for me.
One day I found the time to take a dose at 10am so I was peaking at noon and it was so much better, the sun seemingly seems to directly pump euphoria into the trip.

So my suggestion would be:
Do the 2C-E it on a bright sunny day, use sunblocker (safer use ftw :)), take your ipod (Fever Ray is atm my choice #1) and go outside in your garden and lie down in the sun.
Light and brightness just rocks, the sun, the warmth, it's always pure euphoria for me.
Do not open your eyes while staring in the sun and don't get sunburn :).
 
Yes, I've always seemed to enjoy psychadelics more during the day. I find that they are definitely brighter, lighter, and more uplifting with the sun. But since this is going to be my experiment, and more purely for research and future knowledge that recreation, I'd like my trip to be deep, not light. I want to experience the full brunt of what this compound has to offer, and I am considering drinking Syrian Rue before the experience to potentiate the effects. However, I may not, considering I want a pure view of 2C-E first.
Anyway, yeah, I'm looking for anything that will make my first 2C-E trip deep and geared toward exploration of the compound.
 
I've done 2c-e 4 times. Twice at 25 mg and twice at 20mg. My most recent experience was at a club. I had to let my friends know I was tripping, they had no idea. I didn't drive or doing anything dangerous while on it either though, as I wasn't about to test myself like that. However, I always feel so clear headed that I can choose to just keep it to myself. The 25mg experiences were definitely stronger trips than the 20mg experiences. They just never had me at a point of confusion or anything like that. I'm not sure I personally would want to combine it with MDMA as I'm not smoking pot any more for legal reasons and the nausea w/o pot isn't very enjoyable, I would guess much less with the light nausea of MDMA. Then again, it could be that my stomach is still getting use to having to deal with processing stuff without the constant effect of pot.
 
I've consistently heard that DOC is crisp and clean enough to be unnoticeable by externals. This is good, because it will allow me to analyze and fully ingratiate myself into the experience. Perhaps I'll just have to have a go with it. Would you say that 25mg is an adequate starter dose for an intense trip? I want to realize the full potential of this compound, since the initial experience is usually set apart from the rest.
 
What's with all the people not recommending 2C-E in social/party settings? I find this is one of the areas where 2C-E really shines. Seeing Chemical Brothers live on a very large dose of 2C-E was utterly amazing, as was dancing in the club tent afterwards. I felt so wonderfully connected to people, yes it was "strange" like any trip around random people but because of the huge number of people, many of whom were also tripping or rolling, it didn't matter, and I soon became connected to everyone in a way I simply can't explain.

Another thing is, a lot of people are concerned by 2C-E's body load, but I can say without a doubt the single best way to relieve unpleasant body feelings on 2C-E is to get up and dance. Moving about really helps, but full on dancing changes it from an unpleasant body feel to the most glorious euphoric body high I've experienced with any drug.

I think this is a wonderfully malleable drug though. I can take this alone in a solitary setting, with silence, no light etc, and very much enjoy my experience. I can also be at a loud party setting with crazy strobe lights and lasers everywhere, people shouting, bumping into me etc - and enjoy it equally much without any fear or risk of a bad trip.

Of all the settings I find being in bed is probably one of the least enjoyable though, I still have had so many wonderful experiences laying in bed on 2C-E, but I feel staying still like that is when the body load normally gets uncomfortable, it's much more suited to walking through nature, dancing, running, or any kind of activity that doesn't involve sitting around really.
 
^I think if you've got some experience with 2C-E, it could be wonderfully socially. As long as you know what's going to happen, you should be fine. I find I feel so close to everyone and everything when I'm on it, so I could imagine why you had such a good time at the show!
 
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