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Stimulants will plugging bring back the euphoria?

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Urgez

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when 40mgs oral doesnt do it

when 20mgs railed doesnt do it

EDIT: speaking about adderall IR

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or is that magic gone on a psychological level, regardless of method? :|
 
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plugging will definitely increase the bioavailability. what kind of amphetamine are you taking? street amp or a prescription like adderal? regardless of what kind of amp your taking, the best way to get the euphoria again is to take a break for atleast a few days. the longer you wait, the better the euphoria will be. also you have probably built a tolerance so you need to take more. I take dextroamphetamine 10mg instant release twice a day and 10mg extended release twice a day but if i want euphoria all i have to do is take 30mg instant release at one time even with my tolerance.
 
it probably will but keep in mind that the rush will be shorter and the crash will be harsher.
 
does parachuting increase the bioavailability, or does it simply speed up absorption?
 
The real question here is how long have you been ON Adderall? After a while of me taking more than prescribed I could take 150 mg and have minimal effects no matter the ROA. If the magic's gone the magic's gone bro. You might have to take a break if this is the case. lol
 
@drewbocop: i've been on adderall (now currently vyvanse for the past two weeks) on and off for the last year. my usage prior to this month has generally been weekend binging followed by 4 days break on average. my school semester is ending in a few days, after which i intend on taking a two week vacation from the drugs.

i'm sincerely hoping that this break will bring back at least some of the magic (though many people have claimed that it can be lost forever...) lets hope not.
 
Mine was lost forever, honestly. I was only on it for like 13 months before I was in the "tweaking stage" as the DEA likes to call it lol. That is the stage where you no longer get euphoric and basically just get all of the more negative side effects. I went into the doctor's office, a crooked as hell Indian dude with an office decorated in miscellaneous Shire crap, and told him I was done lol. Literally just walked back out. He must have been like 0_o

Since I've tried stims the last couple times, I have had literally no positive side effects! It's strange, I can fall asleep on the stuff. And I haven't been on Adderall since '08. But if you really are taking 4 days off in between binges, you're doing a lot better than I was. Keep that up and maybe you won't be in my situation. Heh
 
^^ Yes that's the key, taking time off between binges. Of course, that tends to get more difficult the longer one has the habit of binging, I suspect. As long as it's still possible, one can probably enjoy binging. When it all becomes one long binge, I'd say it's over =D.
 
yes of course... the binging periods have been getting longer due to accumulated work lol

what do you guys think about sustained binging (4-5 days on, 1-2 off) (60-80mg adderall IR / 24 hours). this is the reality of my situation for the past month or so. 2-3 hours of sleep every other day, mixing the IR and vyvanse... you name it. i know what im getting myself into, but i guess i justify it because i still have a lot of work to do.

the real test will be once all the school work is over...
 
You're not really getting yourself into anything other than mental dependence (which luckily I found easy to break) and not having the drug work anymore. AKA It's over. 4-5 days on, 2-3 hours of sleep, and 80mg of IR/Vyvanse is basically what I did. You need to use it less, or at least only use it when absolutely needed. It doesn't stay very magic for long. I'm surprised you're getting much from it now. I hated the stage where all I got was gross stimulation, no sleep still, and yet I wanted to take it every day. It really sucks.

My friend on the other hand has been using Adderall IR then switched to Dex spansules then switched to Vyvanse. He takes it every day, doesn't really abuse it much (surprisingly) and he seems to still like it. Just tone down your use if you can or it's GOING to stop working, just like most drugs.
 
Amphetamine tolerance, for me, seems to be dependent on fluctuating doses. It seems a regular/occasional binge would harm tolerance MORE than daily therepeutic use. Also, I take 5ml of Delsym (DXM XR, an NMDA agonist) daily and it really helps with tolerance. I've actually managed to LOWER my dosage. If that ain't nifty!
 
Plugging Vyvanse isn't considered wise as it will still need to be converted in the liver to the active metabolite. As for rectal administration in general bringing back the euphoria, it isn't some magical answer. For some drugs it results in better overall availability by skipping first pass metabolism and in most will resulting in a quicker time to peak concentration and absolute peak concentration (not for Vyvanse again though).

Check out these threads for more information.
Bioavailability/Half-life MEGA Thread
vyvanse "mega thread" - your vyvanse thread has been merged into this one
Plugging/Rectal Administration Megathread
 
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