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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread - 4th Dose (don't overdose)

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socalthizzn said:
i can definatly see it being habit forming. it sort of "calls my name" during the week when im not using it. i think about it alot, usally my thoughts consist of "damn i really want to hit some mxe" but i dont. its not a horribly strong urge but it is there.
ive also noticed tolerance go up, the duration of the drug shortens but still packs the same punch as when i was first experimenting with it. 50 mgs used to last a minimum of 4 hours and now it lasts only 2 max.
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QFE

I definitely think it is "addictive" or "compulsive" or whatever word you want to use, but not overly so. Any substance that is great is going to cause that effect.
I also think of it often and wouldnt mind taking it daily if it had no risk factor, just because it feels good and fresh and fun and euphoric EVERY time, with no bodyload, comedown, or hangover, and I CANT SAY THAT ABOUT ANY OTHER SUBSTANCE IN EXISTENCE THAT IVE TRIED, AND THERE IS A LIST.

I defininitly feel it is addictive just because its the pinnacle of all substances by far, but with a little self control you can keep the usage down. I have dosed high and I have dosed low, but I find during the week with work I really dont even think or desire to dose it.

I feel the urge to dose it every weekend, but once I dose it once in a moderate to high amount (40-70mg) the "strong" cravings dissipate for about a week.

Great great great stuff
 
suckerbunnie said:
No, it isn't. I find ketamine to be incredibly addictive. I went through 10 grams of methoxetamine in two months. It has been a month now since I ran out and I can most sincerely state that I can either take it or leave it. It's great fun but no big whoop.
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I agree, when i got my first 0,5g i wen´t on a bingefuck and thought it was the most addictive drug ever.

After it ran out i waited about 2months and got another 2g´s this time however i had already explored the deep m-hole and felt preety done with those doses and now i just use it about 1-2times per month mostly in -50mg doses together with cannabis. (i still have about 1.2g left after 3months)

I will however order 3more grams to stock up so i can keep this gem for many years to come.

It´s weird in that way that i don´t feel any urge to take it often but the thought of running out scares me, kinda like with dmt.
 
ColtDan said:
i need to get some more dmt. urgently
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....yesssir... nn-dmt , smallish dose of psilocybe caps, and 50mgs of mxe = uhhh not sure.. ill let u know how it goes this weekend.. i have a feeling it will make the earth shake :)
 
does the magic of MXE permanently go away like with MDMA, or does it come back if you take a long enough break?
 
a big part of my compulsive dissociative use is for pain relief. i prefer dissociatives over OTC NSAIDs or even opiates for this purpose. i can take 300mg or so of DXM, or 50mg or so of MXE and i will both be relieved of my aches and pains as well as be alert and able to function in every day life. opiods at effective dosages produce in me too strong of a sedation for me to be able to function at my job, or while driving. or while healing from these cuts all over my body that i somehow received from MAJORLY overdosing on MXE and 2C-P. so yeah, i do feel a really strong compulsion to keep dosing. but at this point i need to just bite the bullet and NOT buy any DXM or MXE. sad but true.
 
Namefull said:
Thank you for the reply. But i would like to hear what you yourself (and others) believe that this means, that it removes the no longer existing limb so that it can not interrupt or interfere with an amputees mind.

If this is the case of this compund, what does it really mean? How could it work? What other potential uses could this stuff have?

I wish this discussed!
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well i found that it helped me a lot with the lost of some family members; i was feeling intense pain about it and tended to think compulsively about them and missed them etc
some mxe experiences taught me to accept the lost inherent to life and how everything and everyone is just passing by; it worked wonderfully -i don't feel that pain now. i'm healed.

so i understand when you write that "it removes the not longer existing limb" (or family members) "so that it can not interrupt or interfered with" my mind
 
thenightwatch said:
a big part of my compulsive dissociative use is for pain relief. i prefer dissociatives over OTC NSAIDs or even opiates for this purpose.
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Yeah, I feel you on this point. One of the things I love best about ketamine is the pain releiving properties. My back is kinda screwed up and all of that just vanishes when on K. Unfortunately, when I have it I find it extremely difficult to control my useage. After initial experimentation I am able to manage the methoxetamine use better and it is also good for pain releif but not I find as well as ket.
 
So I tried MXE for the first time two nights ago. At first I dosed too low and my friend told me cuz I had a k tolerance I should snort 60mg and so I did.

My god. Although I started crying when I was tripping (got some shit going on) I felt so fucking good. So much less confusing than K but its got its own sort of mindfuckery.

The next morning my and my friends memory was a mess. I forgot how to order a turkey and cheese sub, and he forgot his bankcard in the machine, then forgot his money when he took it out XD
 
LicktheShade said:
I forgot how to order a turkey and cheese sub, and he forgot his bankcard in the machine, then forgot his money when he took it out XD
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Yes, the short term memory problems are the most annoying after effect of MXE I find. It takes a good few days to get back to normal memory wise. Too much thinking, not enough time for new memories! :D


BTW, I went through a few weeks of dosing 150mg I.M. a night (3 x 50mg doses), and physical side effects when stopping for a few days seem to be nil, the only possible addiction/compulsion seems to be psychological. No physical problems to report except maybe heightened blood pressure. Not much else.
 
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Namefull:

Hello there im new.

Since i have been experimenting with this compound i felt compelled to come here to talk about my findings, theories and thoughts.

First of all i would like to adress that i always read, study and dig up information and process this thuroughly when i embark upon new studies on chemicals.

I have since i first got my initial sample 1 month ago had a range of different experiments. Ofcourse i first tried small doses to check for adverse effects etc. This compound does seem to be some cind of initiator or catalysator of instinctual tasks.

I did note from the interview of the chemist responsible for bringing this compound out in the open (link) that he mentioned it "cured phantom pains". If this is the case i will take it as a tendency of this compound to "remove what is not there" to inhibit confusion on the mind and nerves and let it work more efficiently?

Well, this is all i have time for now. Sorry if my English fell a bit short, it is not my mothers tounge.


psood0nym:

I'm not saying it doesn't do that. However, in the case of phantom limb pain we're talking about a pre-existing somatosensory map of a limb in the brain that suddenly stops receiving feedback due to the loss of a limb. I imagine the action of methoxetamine to be pharmacodynamically fairly specific in its mitigation of pain -- that is, that it acts to disrupt a specific neurological mechanism that causes the phantom limb pain -- rather than that it "removes what is not there." It's just a drug, it cannot determine what is and what isn't there to remove.


Namefull:

Thank you for the reply. But i would like to hear what you yourself (and others) believe that this means, that it removes the no longer existing limb so that it can not interrupt or interfere with an amputees mind.

If this is the case of this compund, what does it really mean? How could it work? What other potential uses could this stuff have?

I wish this discussed!


cosmic._.ape:

well i found that it helped me a lot with the lost of some family members; i was feeling intense pain about it and tended to think compulsively about them and missed them etc
some mxe experiences taught me to accept the lost inherent to life and how everything and everyone is just passing by; it worked wonderfully -i don't feel that pain now. i'm healed.

so i understand when you write that "it removes the not longer existing limb" (or family members) "so that it can not interrupt or interfered with" my mind
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Interesting reply, thank you for your input!

Maybe someone should notify this guy (TED.COM - Elliot Krane: The mystery of chronic pain) about this plausible effect of this compound?

Anyone else have anything more to add to this theory?

Is anyone anywhere really mapping this compounds potential in an open source manner? I know this is what we supposedly are doing here, but this does seem a bit chaotic.

Edit: I stand corrected - one must work with what one have.
 
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2charlyecho said:
Yes, the short term memory problems are the most annoying after effect of MXE I find. It takes a good few days to get back to normal memory wise. Too much thinking, not enough time for new memories! :D


BTW, I went through a few weeks of dosing 150mg I.M. a night (3 x 50mg doses), and physical side effects when stopping for a few days seem to be nil, the only possible addiction/compulsion seems to be psychological. No physical problems to report except maybe heightened blood pressure. Not much else.
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how often were those doses each day spread out by. Im reading a lot of how long it takes to kick in. Did you find this to be a significant factor at all?
 
Namefull said:
Thank you for the reply. But i would like to hear what you yourself (and others) believe that this means, that it removes the no longer existing limb so that it can not interrupt or interfere with an amputees mind.

If this is the case of this compund, what does it really mean? How could it work? What other potential uses could this stuff have?

I wish this discussed!
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I believe ketamine has also been reported to mitigate phantom limb pain, at least anecdotally. Since ketamine and methoxetamine share the property of NMDA antagonism, it's not implausible to suggest that it exerts its effects on phantom limb pain through this mechanism. NMDA antagonists are thought to distort or block NMDA mediated signals from the body to the brain. How methoxetamine or ketamine work more specifically to block phantom limb pain I don't know. It's interesting how dissociatives often cause sensations of twisting the body or otherwise distort our proprioceptive sense in ways that are incongruous with the actual shape and position of our bodies (I've felt this on ketamine, methoxetamine, and DXM). Relief from phantom limb pain may be achieved through whatever processes underlie these effects, directly or indirectly. Perhaps if one can't reliably sense the position or shape of their limbs they also can't sense lacking one that's missing...
 
psood0nym said:
I believe ketamine has also been reported to mitigate phantom limb pain, at least anecdotally. Since ketamine and methoxetamine share the property of NMDA antagonism, it's not implausible to suggest that it exerts its effects on phantom limb pain through this mechanism. NMDA antagonists are thought to distort or block NMDA mediated signals from the body to the brain. How methoxetamine or ketamine work more specifically to block phantom limb pain I don't know. It's interesting how dissociatives often cause sensations of twisting the body or otherwise distort our proprioceptive sense in ways that are incongruous with the actual shape and position of our bodies (I've felt this on ketamine, methoxetamine, and DXM). Relief from phantom limb pain may be achieved through whatever processes underlie these effects, directly or indirectly. Perhaps if one can't reliably sense the position or shape of their limbs they also can't sense lacking one that's missing...
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This theory certainly makes a lot of sense. The twisting sensation that methoxetamine produces is often combined with a complete loss of awareness of body, limbs and all.
 
socalthizzn said:
Duration keeps getting shorter and shorter :(
Break time.
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Yup it's a bitch aint it :\

Even the way tolerance builds with this substance is unpredictable or at least seemingly non-linear ime. First it felt like the amount taken to get the desired effect was increasing but now (as you say) I'm finding I can hit the spot with just a tad more than I used to but the duration has gone from 2hrs+ peak to about an hour and maybe even less.

Frankly I'm a bit gutted as I have a new order arriving but it's definitely time for some self discipline...now where did I stash that again?!!
 
have any other smokers noticed that they are smoking more after taking this stuff its a good month sins i had some and i am smoking 12.5grams in 2 days instead of 3
 
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