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QuasiModo

QuasiModo

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Who remembers this line from A Scanner Darkly? I recall a long train of thought I had after hearing/reading that line. To which complications can we attribute our drug use? Which are merely the aspects of our personality we would rather not claim responsibility for? When does a simple fear, a nervousness that stems from our own thoughts cease to be our problem and becomes that of a molecule? That book/movie changed the way I view my own drug use forever, but one clear benefit that the revolution of thought which it ignited in me was this; all of the problems I face within myself I now view as entirely my own doing and responsibility. With this revelation I have been able to, quite more easily than I had imagined before, overcome many of my own problems with shyness and antisocial tendencies... These labels I had put on my insecurities, anxiety, depression, mania.. I now see them with the 20/20 vision of a completely cleansed perspective. Where I thought I was crippled I have become adept.. Where before there was fear that fear has been replaced by boldness.

Do you view your own intricacies (intelligence, happiness, depression, ect) as the byproduct of your abusing the psyche? Or have you rationalized your ways and actions? More importantly how have your revelations caused you to change?
 
QuasiModo said:
Do you view your own intricacies (intelligence, happiness, depression, ect) as the byproduct of your abusing the psyche? Or have you rationalized your ways and actions? More importantly how have your revelations caused you to change?
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I just think of drugs as amplifiers / workhorses for the mind.

The way I see it they are doing the work for you to experience what ever it is
-euphoria
-ego death
-disassociation
and on and on all the different effects drugs have...

I have a mindblowing fun as hell time with out drugs, I just have to make it happen mentally rather than be taken for an effortless ride.

I can dissassociate, I can have open minded non-linear psychedelic thought patterns...

Hell if I really relax and meditate I literally see my "HPPD" (not technically but you know what I mean) start to emerge before my eyes, as in geometrical patterning overlaying the center of my vision and things pixate a bit like a solid color being made of up many colors like static fuzz but changing / sparkling

I remember the first time I rolled on some proper MDMA, the euphoria was so amazing and the first thing I thought of was "wowww I forgot what it was like to feel this way I haven't felt like this since I was a kid, and its been so long I forgot I ever did"

Throwing a no hitter in highschool made me feel as euphoric and "rolling" as any drug has, still remember just laying in bed that night re-living it and having those same rushing emotions as I do on good X (not that ridiculous synthetically amplified feeling drugs give though, but sometimes lesser euphoria but feeling genuine can actually be better)

So yeah... Drugs are great because they do the work for you and every now and then there is nothing wrong with that. I'll use anything.
 
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QuasiModo said:
Do you view your own intricacies (intelligence, happiness, depression, ect) as the byproduct of your abusing the psyche? Or have you rationalized your ways and actions? More importantly how have your revelations caused you to change?
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I accept full responsibility for how i feel,think and act, once this is acknowledged and actualized you begin to gain a sense of empowerment over your own being.. i wouldn't go so far as to say that substance's arn't responsible for changes in perception,emotion and sense of self.. but by claiming responsibility for these intricacies, your giving power back to yourself rather then giving it away.

I would say that this is an on-going process, not only in relation to substance use.. but virtually everything in life.
 
My gradually expanding acceptance of responsibility culminated in me accepting responsibility even for my own happiness.
Almost no matter the external situation, I believe it is within my power - and also a great spiritual practice - to be happy.

(Note that there are certain situations, such as soon after the death of a loved one, that I would neither be able to be happy nor think it would be healthy to be happy. However, during the vast majority of life's travails, I believe that personal happiness is an attainable and desirable attitude while dealing with them.)
 
slimvictor said:
My gradually expanding acceptance of responsibility culminated in me accepting responsibility even for my own happiness.
Almost no matter the external situation, I believe it is within my power - and also a great spiritual practice - to be happy.

(Note that there are certain situations, such as soon after the death of a loved one, that I would neither be able to be happy nor think it would be healthy to be happy. However, during the vast majority of life's travails, I believe that personal happiness is an attainable and desirable attitude while dealing with them.)
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Your post made me think of this song,

http://youtu.be/MH6TJU0qWoY
 
I could be way off-base here, but I have a feeling that taking powerful psychedelic drugs has a far-reaching trickle-down effect on the user's psychology. (No sarcasm intended.) The implications and revelations of the psychedelic experience create a ripple effect throughout all of our beliefs, values, perspectives, etc., to some degree.

As a consequence of this, it seems like a psychedelic user would almost be forced to admit that every psychological strength and weakness is due to psychedelic use -- simply for the fact that without having taken psychedelics, those strengths and weaknesses would have developed in a (slightly?) different way.
 
QuasiModo said:
Who remembers this line from A Scanner Darkly? I recall a long train of thought I had after hearing/reading that line. To which complications can we attribute our drug use? Which are merely the aspects of our personality we would rather not claim responsibility for? When does a simple fear, a nervousness that stems from our own thoughts cease to be our problem and becomes that of a molecule? That book/movie changed the way I view my own drug use forever, but one clear benefit that the revolution of thought which it ignited in me was this; all of the problems I face within myself I now view as entirely my own doing and responsibility. With this revelation I have been able to, quite more easily than I had imagined before, overcome many of my own problems with shyness and antisocial tendencies... These labels I had put on my insecurities, anxiety, depression, mania.. I now see them with the 20/20 vision of a completely cleansed perspective. Where I thought I was crippled I have become adept.. Where before there was fear that fear has been replaced by boldness.

Do you view your own intricacies (intelligence, happiness, depression, ect) as the byproduct of your abusing the psyche? Or have you rationalized your ways and actions? More importantly how have your revelations caused you to change?
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I would say that, at times, my depression hasn't been helped(but it also has been more often than NOT), but the use of these substances I use, in my experiential opinion has led to (or at the very least influenced) me becoming less cold, more attached to reality, more confident in myself and where I'm going in this life, less selfish, and altogether happier.

The only downsides I can see have been physical ones, where I haven't eaten enough, or had proper aftercare afterwards, but this has gotten infinitely better the more and more I respect myself.

That and possibly giving my family or other people shit, when experiencing mood swings, after "hitting it too hard".

All things of the past though - all part of the learning curve.
 
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TheAppleCore said:
I could be way off-base here, but I have a feeling that taking powerful psychedelic drugs has a far-reaching trickle-down effect on the user's psychology. (No sarcasm intended.) The implications and revelations of the psychedelic experience create a ripple effect throughout all of our beliefs, values, perspectives, etc., to some degree.

As a consequence of this, it seems like a psychedelic user would almost be forced to admit that every psychological strength and weakness is due to psychedelic use -- simply for the fact that without having taken psychedelics, those strengths and weaknesses would have developed in a (slightly?) different way.
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I agree with that.

The psychedelic drug is just a catalyst though (albeit a very powerful and rapid one).

The insight and revelations associated with psychedelic use can also be achieved in other ways.

Meditation, fasting, extreme excretion through physical exercise, dissociation via intense depression (and intense euphoria / mania) and many more, I would even say the ways to achieve it would have to be infinite.

Psychedelics are the best way though, by far... I believe they are here for a reason. A highly refined and specific tool for man to stimulate and develop his mind.
 
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