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Opioids How to inject (iv) using butterfly ...

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Buzzo

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Hi guys... sorry if this had been posted before, i'm sure it probably has but i did a search, went through faq's, googled and couldn't find anything.

Basically, yesterday i iv'd methadone for the first time and i used a 5ml barrel with a yellow tip and it worked well but it was quite hard to push through and the pressure kept moving the tip and it came out of the vein and i had to re insert it and check for blood with was a bit of a pain. Eventually i got it all in and it was good but i think i could do a 10ml barrel worth easily.

Anyway so i've got my barrel and i've grabbed a butterfly cause i was told it's a lot easier with less movement at the tip end.

So my question is.. once i put the tip in the vein and connect my barrel how do i make sure i don't shoot up air at the beginning. See the thing is once i connect the barrel and jack back then i'm guessing air will get into the barrel and not to mention all the air in the actuall butterfly pipe?

Can someone tell me the proper to use a butterfly...

Thanks,

Buzzo
 
5ml is a huge syringe, let alone 10ml. I'd go for 1ml insulin syringes as they are much easier on the veins... 27 - 29g is probably good to start, you can get finer tips later if you find it necessary.

Sorry, I don't know much about butterfly needles... I do know that a little air getting through isn't harmful, just try to get a decent amount out of course.
 
why are you IV'ing methadone ? do you want to lose a limb ?

just drink it the way your are meant to , your asking for trouble hitting up meth
 
Just pull back on the syringe while connected to the butterfly so you se blood coming into the barrel, before the blood the air will be sucked back into the barrel also so now you have the whole butterfly filled with blood.

Now you can begin to inject, the air should be able to move to the bottom of the barrel and be the final part you push in and you can stop before.

On the other hand there will be so little air in that thing so it shouldn't really matter.
 
why are you IV'ing methadone ? do you want to lose a limb ?

just drink it the way your are meant to , your asking for trouble hitting up meth

yeah.. thats what i always do, i just wanted to try it that's all.

I know the dangers...
 
am i missing something shouldnt we be warning the guy about the danger of IV methadone ,, you know harm reduction etc ???

Mate, there's always going to be people that iv all different types of drugs that arn't meant for iving.

The fact is if they've got their mind set on doing it then there's not much you can do to stop them.

yes you can give them advice on the dangers and hope that will change their mind but i think it's best you you tell them how to use safetly if they do decide to go ahead with it
 
Im just saying because i had my mind set on trying something stupid and with the people here on BL they actually managed to change my mind before i done it , yes i agree it is good to show the safest way to inject but its even safer to have had your mind changed and not do it at all

I had more people post telling me the dangers than the best way to do the dangerous things and it worked , i guess im just surprised no one else mentioned it before me
 
This guy doesn't seem too bright. "Hey, you could lose a limb"

"Yeah I know, I am aware of the dangers."

I hope I changed his mind alright...
 
This guy doesn't seem too bright. "Hey, you could lose a limb"

"Yeah I know, I am aware of the dangers."

I hope I changed his mind alright...

who me ? yeah im a daft cunt for trying to help someone

sure i guess trying to stop someone from doing them self damage makes me a right fucking idiot 8)

you know what fuck it i will join him, i just got my script today , seems id be stupid not to stick my meth in to my veins

or are you meaning the OP ???
 
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He didn't say what kind of methadone, and TBH, I missed that it was methadone... You're right, there's little point in shooting methadone, the dangers far outweigh any positives (negligible if any)... Let's hope he's not trying to IV syrup at least...
 
there's little point in shooting methadone

Due to methadone's high volume of distribution, it is not going to "rush" like most commonly abused opiates would when IV'd.

These comments are a load of crap. Well it's true yes the dangers do outweigh the positives but to say there's little point in shooting methadone is bullshit.

I used only 5ml of dome which is i dunno how many mg but not much and i got a massive rush and was dead set off my face. The high was unbelievable actually. I DID get a good rush . It was pretty much like H if not better. H used to make me itchy as.. dome doesn't (well not as much).

I'm not even on the dome, im on 2mg subutex a day, sometimes i miss days, sometimes take 1mg a day. Not everyone is on a big dose of methadone or bupe.
Now.. i hadn't been dosed in 3 days and i got my hands on some dome and thought fuck it, im gunna get smashed. Just cause you guy's can't feel shit cause you's are too jacked up to begin with doesn't mean everyone is the same.
All i wanted to do was try it and i got ripped and i'm happy and that's that.

Thanks for the advice ;)
 
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^The onset is quicker, yes, but the "rush" and overall effects are not really different from just dosing orally (you said yourself you don't even take methadone regularly). Add to this the range of dangers you are exposing yourself to, and it is not a great idea IMO.
 
^The onset is quicker, yes, but the "rush" and overall effects are not really different from just dosing orally (you said yourself you don't even take methadone regularly). Add to this the range of dangers you are exposing yourself to, and it is not a great idea IMO.

I'm sure comparing IV heroin to IV methadone would yield different time until onsets.
 
Guy's im really really scared.
I'm so sorry for being a smart ass and i need advice.

My finger is really really swollen and it look's like it's infected. I'm very worried i might lose my finger or my arm.
Basically i can't bend my finger and it's puffed up and i was just curious if this could be cause of the dome i shot up?

Has anyone experienced this before?
Is there anything i can do to help this?

Please help...
 
don't worry, no ones going to be cheering that you've injured yourself.

is where you shot into the finger? can you explain the situation a little better?

if you're in serious doubt about your finger and losing it then contact your local emergency room/get there asap or to a GP.
 
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