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The Big and Dandy NBOMe-2C-C (25C-NBOMe) Thread

I made a solution of 11mg/1ml of 40% alcohol with the HCL and it dissolved without even agitation.
Loaded two 550mcg doses (0.05ml) onto blotter and administered sublingually.
I had a wonderful time and was thoroughly impressed but my gf experienced fairly high amounts of nausea and general discomfort, for almost the entirety of the trip...
Reading through others reports I've not found much that sounds similar to how she felt.
Another female friend dosed 550mcg nasally and had similar body effects to my gf while her boyfriend who took the same dose was fine (although he didn't have the strongest trip due to a slight over zealous snorting).
tl;dr - Any women experienced discomfort with this? Any explanations?
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Solipsis said:
the way I did it is dissolve a known amount in isopropanol which is a type of alcohol, then added that to a carrier which in my case is mannitol. Then I repeatedly mixed it as it dried to get it homogeneous, and let it dry completely.
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Solipsis, from what i've read in your posts about mannitol I'm assuming it's a solid, is that right?
So one could possibly substitute it for something more readily available like glucose to create a snortable powder rather than the usual liquid?
In the interest of saving money I much prefer nasal admin, but I'd rather not leave it in soln for ages although I've read it's stable, I also don't know how long it will be before i take it.
 
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I've been considering good ol creatine instead of mannitol. Usually the cheaper stuff is a real fine powder that Ive seen used countless times as a cut for things like ketamine and have never complained too much. Might be ghetto but it works...
 
The reason Solipsis used mannitol and not glucose is because glucose is more hygroscopic. Don't want to have your samples mysteriously gaining water mass from the air...
 
Hm, what other chemicals can be used to cut your own sample?
Also, how pure should be IPA?
 
isn't IPA relatively unhealthy to consume? I knwo the amounts are small.. but i'm not sure why 80 proof liquor couldn't achieve the same effect? (but i could be completely wrong)
 
Aaaah that makes sense about the hygroscopic. Would end up under dosing all the time and that's just plain awful. :D
Your not actually consuming the IPA, just using it to dissolve the 25C and the carrier then evaporating it.
 
So I've been interested in this new compound since it came on the scene. I finally decided it was better to try a first attempt at the blotters as I have no safe way to measure it otherwise. I can say that 1 and a half blotters makes for a very worthwhile experience. For me this is just a nice level, not too much and a decent amount of interesting visuals (not hallucinations but the world just looks better somehow!) and acid like feelings. I've been listening to the Daft Punk Tron soundtrack and it's just been awesome really. Might go for a walk in a bit and check out the views %) Thumbs up from me for this stuff.
 
plzz need help asap

Can I use ispropal 91% alcohol for fbase 25 c nbome and how much would i use for 10mg?
 
VandiLLisM said:
Can I use ispropal 91% alcohol for fbase 25 c nbome and how much would i use for 10mg?
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:p seriously? just one page back you asked the same question & received multiple good answers... also, i closed one thread & directed you here then you posted another :! don't do that.

sekio said:
25C-NBOMe freebase does not dissolve in water and would be better for vapourisation, the HCl salt is water soluble and is 0.903x as potent as freebase.

The HCl salt dissolved in water is probably a better choice than trying to get the freebase dissolved in vinegar or whatever.
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VandiLLisM said:
Couldnt find exact answers. Is the only difference in hcl and F.base c nbome the strength when smoked? Or is HCL slightly stronger? If I were planning on just snorting it would the Fbase be fine? Also if I liquid measure can I just drop the water in my nose to absorb or would it simply drip to fast and skip absorption?

So if I have the Fbase how do I go about dissolving it or converting it to the hcl? I want to make a liquid solution but all of the info I have found on doing so was with the HCL
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ayavisions said:
The freebase will not dissolve in water. The HCL will. If you use water I would use 2mg/ml solution and get an insulin syringe (1ml/1cc/100insulin units) and dose half in each nostril. Then 0.1ml will be 200micrograms.
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allium said:
Freebase version should be slightly more potent by weight(~10% due to absence of HCl), but freebases and salts can have different properties, so absorption rates, solubility can be different.

I suggest you to check The B&D 25C-NBOMe thread, it contains a lot of useful information.
Just click "Search this Thread" link and type in keywords.
Here is the report on smoking:



It is indeed possible, but can be tricky, if you use too much amount of water. I guess your nostrils can hold 0.2-0.4 ml without dripping, just make sure you dose properly(try putting plain water firstly).
And if your solution isn't strong enough, I advise you to stagger your dose: drop 0.2 ml and 15 minutes after another 0.2 ml, and so on.
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sekio said:
Dissolve it in an equimolar amount of hydrochloric acid. Alternatively you can form other salts like the citrate, acetate etc. with the appropriate acids. If you use HCl then you can simply evaporate the solvent and excess acid off, but if you use anything else you should be careful how much acid you add or you'll burn your nose with the resulting solution...

It might be hard to get the freebase into solution without heat or stirring.
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ayavisions said:
add about .1ml of white vinegar per 5mg freebase and it should dissolve, then add water up to the until you have the the volume you want. So for 10mg freebase, added the 25c into a 10ml amber glass vial, add 0.2ml of vinegar and wait overnight or heat slightly until dissolved, add 6.5ml of water to make a solution of 150ug/0.1ml and its all set :)
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Not one of those gives me a measurement for the alcohol just vinager. Sorry if its the same measurement and Im not aware but like I said in both of my threads i need a little specific assistance. So try again please?
 
There are research chemicals, don't expect there to be tons of data about them! Learn some chemistry if you're going to be playing around with chemicals. Don't expect answers handed to you on a silver platter.

I doubt freebase 25C-NBOMe will dissolve in 91% isopropanol to a good concentration. Freebases are usually best off dissolved in aprotic solvents.

Freebase 25C-NBOMe would be soluble in acetone, I bet. Or you could just use vinegar as stated before - I don't even know if the freebase would be absorbed via sublingual dosing...
 
As far as I can tell the price of this RC (and NBOMe's in general) is set respective to active dose so it makes it about the same price as the phenethylamine counterpart. the only difference is the cost of equipment needed to safely handle and dose 25c-NBOMe. I think liquid drops on a snortable surfactant like mannitol or lecithin is definetly the cheapest/easiest way to use this.

just a thought... doesnt BMeO as in benzyl-methoxy sound wayyy better than NBOMe? just say it, "bee-mee-o" I just drop the N cuz im sure we here all know the benzyl-methoxy group is attached at the nitrogen. then extended for 25C-NBOMe, "see-bee-mee-o" like CBMeO. It totally rolls off the tounge like c3po. i think that slang could catch on :)
 
sekio said:
I doubt freebase 25C-NBOMe will dissolve in 91% isopropanol to a good concentration. Freebases are usually best off dissolved in aprotic solvents.

Freebase 25C-NBOMe would be soluble in acetone, I bet. Or you could just use vinegar as stated before - I don't even know if the freebase would be absorbed via sublingual dosing...
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You are correct - 25C freebase is poorly soluble in IPA (even pure IPA, not 91% ), acceptable solubility in acetone, insoluble in toluene. 25C HCl is soluble in water and acetone (!).
 
shit, a few months ago it was like pulling teeth to get a post about this stuff... 25 pages?!! im impressed
 
What kind of snortable substance could i apply this too to take a few hits out with me to avoid taking my whole vial? I was thinking baking soda but iv never heard anything about actually using it to cut/snort except in movie n tv and shit. I was thinking it wouldnt matter because the amount would be so small but im sure there could be a more efficient thing to use. Where could I get manitol also? I looked around but was kinda lost since I had no idea where to look in the first place.
 
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