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Orangish dmt chrystals?

shpongle1987

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say for instance i bought a bag of dmt and it was orangish looking chrystal shards....ive never seen this before they have always been clear chrystals....what does this mean and could it possibly be more potent then the clear chrstyal dmt im used too?
 
the one time i've ever seen anything that someone told me was DMT was at camp bisco 2 years ago. this dude came stumbling over to our campsite and started talking to us, eventually revealing that he was tripping on DMT and i could pack a bowl of it in my bowl. it was a very orange, kinda translucent coarse crystal shards. I was never able to hit it though because he was so fucked up he dropped all of it on the ground when he tried to pack my bowl and got angry at me for some reason... he seemed fucked up. hope that helps
 
Some of the most powerful experiences I have ever had have been off orange DMT.

It simply wasn't recrystallised or generally just not done as cleanly as possible in the extraction.

If it smells right, it usually is.....

If you have had DMT before, you know the smell. Its not one easily forgotten....
 
say for instance i bought a bag of dmt and it was orangish looking chrystal shards....ive never seen this before they have always been clear chrystals....what does this mean and could it possibly be more potent then the clear chrstyal dmt im used too?

pretty sure that means its impure or been soaked in naptha too long or somthing.....i think
 
the one time i've ever seen anything that someone told me was DMT was at camp bisco 2 years ago. this dude came stumbling over to our campsite and started talking to us, eventually revealing that he was tripping on DMT and i could pack a bowl of it in my bowl. it was a very orange, kinda translucent coarse crystal shards. I was never able to hit it though because he was so fucked up he dropped all of it on the ground when he tried to pack my bowl and got angry at me for some reason... he seemed fucked up. hope that helps

lol I pictured this happening in the format of a Matt Judge style cartoon as I read it for some reason... cracked me up

beavis__butthead.jpg
 
White N-N-DMT :
"White N-N-Dimethyltryptamine (DMT) is pure DMT. It is generally up to 1% of the weight of the bark, though less than 0.5% and up to 2% are not unheard of.
In the past the goal of most extractions was to get these pure white crystals, the bark however has more than just that to extract. There are some toxins that cause nausea when eaten, some inactive chemicals and lots of plant matter. But more interesting and more important are 2 other psychoactive alkaloids with similar effects (which some consider preferable) to White DMT. "

Yellow DMT-N-oxide :
"DMT-N-oxide While previously thought to be the reason for the yellow in "impure" DMT, actually Oxides may or may not be present in the MHRB and thus may or may not be in the end product. It is a fact that White DMT does oxidize into DMT-N-oxide when exposed to ambient air for extended periods of time.
Oxides (by SWIM's tests) are about 1/3 or less potent than white DMT or jungle DMT when smoked but equally potent when used in pharmahuasca. "

Red "Jungle" DMT :
"The "Jungle" alkaloids are a group of alkaloids contained in the bark.
Jungle DMT when smoked or consumed in pharmahuasca produce effects similar in duration and somewhat similar effects to N-N-DMT but noticeably different.
Contrary to what some believe there is nothing "dark" about the effects of Jungle DMT, at least no more than any DMT. The effects are just somewhat different, but more or less like DMT "


From Q21Q21's Vinegar/Lime A/B Extraction Tek in the dmt-nexus
 
yeah i have defiantly heard anything but clear/white dmt is impure....but who knows until i try it though, i shall let you know....t-minus 4:00 hr until blast off.
 
White N-N-DMT :
"White N-N-Dimethyltryptamine (DMT) is pure DMT. It is generally up to 1% of the weight of the bark, though less than 0.5% and up to 2% are not unheard of.
In the past the goal of most extractions was to get these pure white crystals, the bark however has more than just that to extract. There are some toxins that cause nausea when eaten, some inactive chemicals and lots of plant matter. But more interesting and more important are 2 other psychoactive alkaloids with similar effects (which some consider preferable) to White DMT. "

Yellow DMT-N-oxide :
"DMT-N-oxide While previously thought to be the reason for the yellow in "impure" DMT, actually Oxides may or may not be present in the MHRB and thus may or may not be in the end product. It is a fact that White DMT does oxidize into DMT-N-oxide when exposed to ambient air for extended periods of time.
Oxides (by SWIM's tests) are about 1/3 or less potent than white DMT or jungle DMT when smoked but equally potent when used in pharmahuasca. "

Red "Jungle" DMT :
"The "Jungle" alkaloids are a group of alkaloids contained in the bark.
Jungle DMT when smoked or consumed in pharmahuasca produce effects similar in duration and somewhat similar effects to N-N-DMT but noticeably different.
Contrary to what some believe there is nothing "dark" about the effects of Jungle DMT, at least no more than any DMT. The effects are just somewhat different, but more or less like DMT "


From Q21Q21's Vinegar/Lime A/B Extraction Tek in the dmt-nexus

This matches my experience perfectly! I stored some white crystals for a couple months at room temp and they turned very yellow. Well at least they haven't lost all potency =D.
 
The orange/yellow color comes from fatty plant emulsions that come out during a certain DMT extraction method. Makes it harsher, and depending on how dark the crystals are it can be very impure. I've seen very good extracted DMT crystals that were slightly yellow but translucent. That's what you wanna look for in well-extracted spice.
 
While DMT N-oxide may be yellow, some oils from the mimosa hostilis rootbark or other plants also can be. This can even range to orange, red or brown though.
Also, crystalline DMT can pseudo-melt over time especially when the ambient temperature is not really low, and turn into amorphous gunk. When thrown in the freezer it can turn crystalline again.
Quite simply, just by looking at DMT you cannot determine whether it will be more or less potent than any other batch you might see.
I was under the impression earlier that logically speaking if it has a very light color and nice macroscopic texture it would at least be more of an indication of purity than the reverse situation. But having said that, extracts of varying qualities usually do a better job of blasting me out into hyperspace than synthetic virgin white product and I think the cause is other alkaloids. While I have no solid evidence for this, it is still enough for me to prefer natural extracts.

Mimisa may contain a little plant fat or oil but usually not much at all, if you have a very bad extraction for some reason (really sloppy STB with the pH values off-point for instance) or if another plant source was used it may be very gooey indeed. The plant fats can be harsh on the lungs if smoked.
If you have colored product, see if you can first get your technique down really nice and use a vaping method involving choreboy / copper mesh. If the smoke is then still harsh you might consider cleaning up the DMT. But before then I would not waste my time on it and even risk losing some precious mystery alkaloids in the process.
 

:) I am reminded of 'chrysanthemum', the flower-like structure to which the structure of the deep levels of the self are alikened (by mcKenna IIRC) or approaching DMT hyperspace... I also read someone mentioning the experience that the totality of the universe is structured somewhat like a flower. This is of course incredibly mystical, but as an idea remarkable and symbolic.
 
I always had stronger and more visual experiences on orange DMT crystal I extracted myself as opposed to the pure white crystals. Very disappointed 'cause I expected pure DMT to be preferable.
 
my pure dmt was VERY professionally extracted. I'm disappointed because the trip was less visual. There seems to be significant personal experience to back this up.
 
I've had orange "jungle" DMT. It was the prettiest stuff I've ever seen. The most perfectly formed orange reddish crystals. It was very potent as well. I only needed to use maybe 1/4th of what I used with some white DMT I'd gotten from a different source.

I also know the orange/reddish DMT was from someone who is more experienced than the stuff from the guy with the white stuff.
 
the one time i've ever seen anything that someone told me was DMT was at camp bisco 2 years ago. this dude came stumbling over to our campsite and started talking to us, eventually revealing that he was tripping on DMT and i could pack a bowl of it in my bowl.

You don't know much about DMT do you...8)
 
^ Yeah most likely if someones trippn on DMT they wouldn't be stumbling over to you lol, rather sitting down somewhere. Unless they took it orally.
 
Well i tried it a few hours ago, it was EXTREMELY visual.....more then usual but for some reason my head felt extra hot and that made me kind of nervous. Overall the smoke was pretty damn harsh, same burnt plastic smell/taste as usual but it felt like the smoke was "thicker" then usual if that makes any sense. I defiantly wouldnt say it was the best dmt i have ever had but it was up there. My source tells me he has two batches, one was white the other was this orange stuff and he said the people have been coming back and asking for the orange so im skeptical about it being impure, but over all it was a damn good ride, like always :)
 
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