The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread - 4th Dose (don't overdose)

[Vader]

I can advise though if anyone wants to go to mars or cross galaxies bosh a gram of mxe even half but don't expect to come home.

This is horrible advice. What you did was stupid and irresponsible, and should not be repeated by anyone.

 

[superhed]

I feel like a man on a map. Like the ground is a map and i can walk all over usa. Then i realize - nope im sitting, staring at blurry cell phone screen thats big then small. 80 mgs + 2 edibles.

Pffffft...why limit yourself to the USA...or this planet for that matter?? :D I swear the distances you can travel on this substance whilst never leaving your sofa are phenomenal!! If only you could accumulate air miles whilst off your trolley!! ...ahh well I suppose even the amazing MXE has some limits to it's awesomeness

And BTW all this talk of half grams and grams is fucking scary...are people out to kill themselves or what?? Fuck sake I love this shit but no way on this earth would I go over say 80mg in a oner get a grip!! Why do a few people need to kick the cunt out of this shining light of the generally shitty RC scene?!! Chill out and enjoy it folks.....peace

 

[knock]

^ I believe it was 400mg MDAI and 100mg MXE, both IV'd in the same barrel.

400mg MDAI / 80-100mg MXE was the original report. So I don't suppose there's any point arguing about the exact figure.

https://www.flashback.org/t1298851p17

 

[basement_shaman]

Has anyone found the time/intensity curve to vary quite a bit for insufflated vs. sublingual?
I tried to draw a diagram of how I experience it:

Basically with insufflated it comes on in little peaks or waves that grow stronger and stronger, with a more intense plateau that lasts shorter than sublingual.
With sublingual I get a smoothly accelerating comeup with a smoothly building peak and comedown, also it takes shorter to reach full effects, but the peak is less intense, and when I come down, I have a slightly stronger afterglow.

 

[xtcnation]

Why do a few people need to kick the cunt out of this shining light of the generally shitty RC scene?!!

Those are the people that will give this drug unecessary speculation leading it to end up getting it banned

 

[sn23]

Intensity / time

basement_shaman: I noticed something very similar. Insufflated seemed to come on faster than sublingual and it felt like it came in waves that were more pronounced towards the highest intensity whereas sublingual doses had one peak/plateau. Plus, insufflated lasted longer. That was observed at 25 mg doses for both ROA.

I am not sure which ROA led to earlier maximum intensity. Same goes for which ROA was more potent. At first insufflated seemed stronger, later sublingual administration produced more intense effects (at the same dosage of course). Would have to try again to be sure.

I had the impression, that the waves of nasal application were correlated to the drip, i.e. a few minutes after a portion of the drip was swallowed, the intensity increased (a bit disgusting, but interesting enough to be discussed). Could have been a product of imagination of course.

Any other experiences/comments/thoughts?

 

[Paul Muad Dib]

Okay, so has anyone else noticed a certain "scitzofrenic, manic all-out-batshit-insanity" after ingestion of a normal to mediumhigh dose of this shit?

I have just come out from what I reckon to be a 5 day long psychosis with repeated dosing that was held secret from my surroundings (don't ask me how). I realized that something was wrong yesterday and had to force myself to put out clues for my sourroundings to help me get a grip, but somehow I kept "concieling" my insanity because of some mission (with al-queida and the foundations of reality that was being suppressed by those who knew how to build Iphones - the only knowledge a small elite had and kept secret - nuff said). I finally alarmed my girlfriend and some hours later the drugs effects had subsided.

Now I still hear voices (1 day later), but have no illusions or anything. Yet I want to redose (no way in hell that is going to happen).

Anyways, this has never happened to me before, and it seems to be an effect from the drug (inducing psychosis), and the thing is that the psychosis seems to be selfaware and trying to escape detection. Really weird and frightening.

So, anyone had anything like this happen to them? I mean, subconscious redosing and schitzofrenic effects?

Btw, I am no noob when it comes to harm reduction, psychedelica, dissociatives or anything (used lots of ketamine and some DXM, and always consumed it responsibly and never went on binges - and never would do that un purpose, so this has been a really frightening experience to me)

 

[Paul Muad Dib]

Ps. I was on autopilot so somehow I maintained a steady appearence (my girlfriend said I seemed a bit tired, yet very happy and slightly manic, but seemed coherent enough. However, inside, I was in a battle to escape the situation and get help, but it was like my mind was controlled and kept integrating my realizations of my mental illness in the "plans", so I never got a chance to tell about what was happening - it was really horrifying, almost like layers of personality struggling for controll - and now afterwords I have trouble seperating what really happened, when it started and what I have done/not done... truly baffling)

edit: I have also been posting online on forums where I seem very coherent at times, though at other times I am fragmented and paranoid. I have been reading during the last 5 days as well, which resulted in constant support of my illusions (for instance cartesian foundationalism played a central role in my perception of myself and reality).

Yes, it sounds confusing, and it is, especially to me sitting in the ruins of what has been a weeklong hell. That is also why i am interested in hearing if anyone in here experienced anything that resembles what I went through.

(btw might write a tripreport, but it is still too soon for me)

 

[ColtDan]

yes it practically turns me into a comfortably anxiety free disconnected euphoric schizophrenic. or just plain batshit crazy. i felt like my personality was changing, that i could manipulate my personality and turn myself into different people, that i had just fucked reality up, that i was invisible, i felt like god, i was so twisted i felt like hunter s from fear and loathing in las vegas. it sounds weird but it was quite cool. i felt like i was walking underwater. and my movements felt liquid, but also robotic and wonky. the most random words became extremely amusing. especially long words. sometimes it mimics other drugs. infact every time ive done this stuff its been a different experience. ive always done it on low amounts of alcohol and sometimes on meph. on meph its different, possibly dangerous but feels nice. i was hearing voices, rain drops were changing color, i felt disconnected from myself and infact an observer of myself. but i was so devoid of giving a shit that it was extremely nice. completely anxiety free. very numb, i felt like i was made out of playdough. but its enough to turn anybody bat shit crazy. the afterglow is awesome though

i met some new people recently on this stuff... they must think ive got a fucking screw loose. i was saying all kinds of random stuff without giving a shit. the long afterglow seems to have a very long lasting antidepressant/anti anxiety effect which is nice

its a bloody amazing drug, beautiful feeling, but its gotta be treated with respect. a few people i know, including myself, have misused it and its sent them a bit mental for the duration. i think ive gone up to aprox 70mg in one night, and it was more than enough. as for these people doing half grams/full grams, it seems like a very fucking stupid thing to be doing. im surprised there isnt reports all over the news and papers about people o/ding and dieing, like what happened with pre-ban meph. infact i reckon when the media get a hint of this stuff itll be all over the place

 

[Paul Muad Dib]

yes it practically turns me into a comfortably anxiety free disconnected euphoric schizophrenic. or just plain batshit crazy. i felt like my personality was changing, that i could manipulate my personality and turn myself into different people, that i had just fucked reality up, that i was invisible, i felt like god, i was so twisted i felt like hunter s from fear and loathing in las vegas. it sounds weird but it was quite cool. i felt like i was walking underwater. and my movements felt liquid, but also robotic and wonky. the most random words became extremely amusing. especially long words. sometimes it mimics other drugs. infact every time ive done this stuff its been a different experience. ive always done it on low amounts of alcohol and sometimes on meph. on meph its different, possibly dangerous but feels nice. i was hearing voices, rain drops were changing color, i felt disconnected from myself and infact an observer of myself. but i was so devoid of giving a shit that it was extremely nice. completely anxiety free. very numb, i felt like i was made out of playdough. but its enough to turn anybody bat shit crazy. the afterglow is awesome though

i met some new people recently on this stuff... they must think ive got a fucking screw loose. i was saying all kinds of random stuff without giving a shit. the long afterglow seems to have a very long lasting antidepressant/anti anxiety effect which is nice

its a bloody amazing drug, beautiful feeling, but its gotta be treated with respect. a few people i know, including myself, have misused it and its sent them a bit mental for the duration. i think ive gone up to aprox 70mg in one night, and it was more than enough. as for these people doing half grams/full grams, it seems like a very fucking stupid thing to be doing. im surprised there isnt reports all over the news and papers about people o/ding and dieing, like what happened with pre-ban meph. infact i reckon when the media get a hint of this stuff itll be all over the place

Sounds a bit like what I experienced. I guess I was at 45 mg at the highest, taken over maybe 3 hours (but I am not sure about this).

I have a lower attentionspan today, my functioning memory is very impaired (making me slower and less reliable in logical reasoning and textunderstanding), and my speech is slowed and stumbling. I also feel a slight nausea and tachycardia from time to time (and some auditorial hallucinations).

Especially hearing voices and whistling when about to sleep conjoined with the fullblown phenomenology of schitsofrenia has made me fear the drug. The weird thing is, as you say, that I feel tranquility and anxietyfree, even today one day after use.

I too experienced changes in personality, and felt like I could controll it (though looking back I realize I had no chance in hell of controlling anything of what happened).

This effect seems to hit me at 25-30 mg doses. Under that level I am in charge. But the transition is smooth and hard to notice, and it really just takes controll. Very scary.

 

[oSpherical]

I can advise though if anyone wants to go to mars or cross galaxies bosh a gram of mxe even half but don't expect to come home.
This is horrible advice. What you did was stupid and irresponsible, and should not be repeated by anyone.

This is horrible advice. What you did was stupid and irresponsible, and should not be repeated by anyone.

Agreed, you can go to mars and cross galaxies on doses well under 100mg.
If you do a gram of MXE, count yourself lucky to survive the experience, not to mention you'll likely black out and become psychotic.

 

[lava]

Hmmm, got home about an hour ago to find a gram of this stuff behind the door - never had it before. Having no scales I just roughly cut the gram into 20 piles, scooped 19 of em back into the bag and had a very small amount off the tip of a credit card and stuck it up my beak.

Anyway - I then went to do some ironing for tomorrow, did a shirt and then had a touch more, only a touch mind

Left it about 45(ish) mins for allergy test.

Still here.

Just stuck about ~20mg up my nose about 15 mins ago, feels like ket alittle at the moment, deffo doing something but that could be the double voddie I drank earlier to "Steady the Ship"- but I doubt it.

Hands and feet are fuckin freezing but im under my snuggie with the heater on so its all gravy

Sweating abit aswell.

Tried to play abit of Warcraft a few minutes ago but decided to log off before I got roped into something that I couldnt finish, plus the noise was winding me up abit.

Sitting here atm typing this and watching a blue screen on my tele.

Starting to feel decidedly "ketted up" - heads going west abit, man I wish I had some weed in. My hands are stone cold.

Wish I'd kept track of time abit better, prob been home from work for about an hour and a half... I think.

Im looking at the pile I have left and I've probably done just under half of the pile, now I very much doubt ive any cross tolerance from ket as I've not had any in about 5 years.

Typings pretty easy atm, bit of heartburn though, thats prolly cos ive not eaten yet today.

Got that trademark chemical taste down the back of the throat, but the Robinsons Summer Fruits & Black cherry concentrate im drinking is helping the situation.

me hands are still cold.

Been a while now since I had that last line, while im "abit, to fairly gone", nothing uncontrollable - if you know what I mean.

Actually I think its this typing thats keeping my head together.

Mouth feels a little bit numb...

I'm starting to feel that I have a bead on this stuff now - famous last words I know..... I know from experience, ill leave it a little longer yet before having anymore. but it is looking at me.

You dont need alot. Or maybe you do...

Dont feel like some of them devastating ket lines that I've had in the past, lol, I thnk my minds starting to twist abit.

Struggling to follow whats going on on the tele, and why am I watching some program on dog grooming anyway ?

Deffo got some ketamine memory/feelings/tastes/sensations coming over me, bit of a blast from the past.

Heartburns playing up and im bursting for a piss, brb.

Job sorted, bladder emptied, rennie ingested and put a jumper on.

ok its 8:10pm, time for a bit more.

done

Thought about getting into bed before to warm up, wonder if I can play the guitar, kind of wish I had some company, but ok alone... besides if my mate had come round it would have ended up carnage and I've got work tomorrow.

The back of my throat feels like "after goodgreef" some may understand that, most wont. Phillips Park Hall ~2004.

10 mins since that last line, dog program is still on the tele.

Visions going a bit wonky, not too bad though. Feels like a kind of sedated ket.

I tell you what, im fuckin hungry, gonna knock some grub up brb.

Microwave sweet and sour chicken, it looks horrible. Tastes slimey

Trying to force some down but its not happening.

This dog program is driving me fuckin nuts, the private life of plants will do.

Good god that foods not happening.

I would say that this stuff I have is ketamine, but its not going up the nose with that sting that I remember. I dunno - considering having abit more, its 8:41

8:46, gonna have whats left of the pile.

done it, did a touch more aswell wandered upstairs for a piss but didn't need one.

is this actuallly making sense to anyone ? 8.54pm starting to struggle to remember what happened earlier, weird stuff this. Wish I had a milkshake in the house.

Dunno what i want to do, but i want to do something. Ateast.

21.01 the beating of that fuckin fan.

21.02 humming birds a plenty

21:05 its like the olden days, recon i can get way more hammered than this

i feel like i need to do something, typings strange
2190 can5 sit up straight and get head together, how long son ce last line?

i dont know whatss going on bu i recon my heads up my fuckin arse atm.

considering having abit more then fucking off to bed, and listening to some music

submit reply !!!!!!

 

[ColtDan]

lol dont have any more, it takes ages to peak and it creeps up. you'll be feeling too twisted to comprehend typing or even making sense of what trying to read this.

 

[oSpherical]

^ - It sounds like you need to try a larger dose next time. You know you've dosed well when you forget your body exists the moment you close your eyes.
It's also important to try keep to a single decent sized dose, as repeated bumps tend to bring on the manic effects more than the trippy effects.

I would also say that the pivotal aspect of MXE is music, I never enjoy MXE as much when there's no music.

 

[lava]

man this is some werid shit

 

[ColtDan]

hahaha! very strange stuff isnt it. twisted, gets you wonky as fuck

 

[oSpherical]

man this is some werid shit

Every dose of MXE is a new experience. It's a dice throw every time. MXE is a new world to explore...

 

[lava]

omg that sweeet & sour is fuckin horrible

 

[ColtDan]

if im able to walk i find going for a walk very hypnotic and beautiful on mxe. trees blowing, i could stare at them for ages. i must look like a zombie shuffling around though

 

[lava]

i dunno what to do . do i have anymore,have i just had some fuck a duck im getting too old for this