Trying LSA (Morning Glory Seeds)..help.

[Joewenston]

I live in the US if that matters and im 18. Anywho Ive been doing a bit of research and i got some questions.
1.Where to buy these things at? I heard you can get them pretty much anywhere? Im lookin for the HBWS, and it seems you can only get them online? Does walmart sell any kind that i can use?

2. How do you consume them? I cant really find an answer some people are saying you just eat them than im hearing about lemonade and crap so i dunno.

3.Can they be deadly with the poison sprayed on them from the companies or will it just make me sick?

4.What should i excpect? Enjoyable or what? Closest psychedelic to it ive done is dxm and plenty of times, highest dose was 600mg and it just wasnt fun i sat still for bout 6 hours not moving, 300mg and a 1st plat with weed is always fun though. Oh yeah hows the euphoria go?

5.Any other advice is appreciated and thanks! :D

 

[vibrancy3]

1. I dont know if discussion of this is allowed ? (i might be wrong but im not gonig to answer it)

2. There are many ways to consume the seeds from making a tea to doing a cold water extraction to just swallowing them (expect nausea and stomach cramps through)

3. Only garden centres really treat seeds with pesticides (you can give them a water bath to remove any toxins but its still advisable to buy from a online retailer that has not sprayed them)

4. I have only done HBWR seeds 3 times in my life, i did'nt really enjoy the experience the high reminds of pseudoephedrine for some reason (thats jsut me thruogh) you might enjoy them quite abit of not.....

5. Start with a low dose as it is of course a Psychedelic & good luck

This link might be of use to you op http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32134

 

[PROZ4C]

1.Where to buy these things at? I heard you can get them pretty much anywhere? Im lookin for the HBWS, and it seems you can only get them online? Does walmart sell any kind that i can use?

Wall-mart does sell some very nice heavenly blue morning glory seeds by "burpee" if you are looking to add them to your garden. I will not say anything more.

2. How do you consume them? I cant really find an answer some people are saying you just eat them than im hearing about lemonade and crap so i dunno.

Strongest trip possible = eat the whole seed. I would suggest grinding them up and putting the powder into gel-caps. (most horrid taste imaginable)

Most comfortable trip possible but the chance of it being very weak = cold water extraction.

3.Can they be deadly with the poison sprayed on them from the companies or will it just make me sick?

Some of them are coated, and some of them are not. I don't think its "deadly" but will be rather unpleasant. By law the packages must say if they are treated though. The ones I bought for my garden from wall-mart were not coated or sprayed with anything, 100% natural burpee brand.

4.What should i excpect? Enjoyable or what? Closest psychedelic to it ive done is dxm and plenty of times, highest dose was 600mg and it just wasnt fun i sat still for bout 6 hours not moving, 300mg and a 1st plat with weed is always fun though. Oh yeah hows the euphoria go?

I would rather have LSD anyday... but as far as the actual trip goes I have actually had some of my very best trips on morning glories. I absolutely love the trip, but the come up is not very fun at all (always worth it though) and some people do not enjoy the body load they get (I actually get a pleasurable body buzz though)

I think the key is to take enough to actually trip hard, and you should have a body buzz not a body load. Any time I shot too shallow with dosing was a bit physically unpleasant.

The euphoria is off the charts and rivaled only by my first few MDMA experiences.

For me it the whole trip is very happy, like authentic happyness... towards the end I get I get some really intense rolling effect where its waves of just extremely powerful euphoria that is almost exhausting (yet recharging at the same time ). This portion of the euphoria might have a synthetic feel to it as its simply so powerful and coming in waves that it will be something you will have never felt naturally in your whole life. (well naturally atleast, if you have tried MDMA it will be familiar)

My explanation of MG trip:

1-2 hour come up that is rather unpleasant, even with no physical problems I just feel a bit anxious and gloomy

from hour 2-3 you come up very slowly, so much slower than any other psychedelic I have tried you may still be questioning if it is working or not...

3-12hrs = absolute bliss... your mind feels like it has been released from a constricting vise and is just so beautifully opened. The head space is very much like LSD except its a way slower speed, no rushing thoughts or lightning storms of ideas hitting you at hyper-speed. But it is VERY psychedelic... just a slow paced psychedelic. It's so lucid yet so dreamy at the same time, kinda like half way your normal self and half way tripping on LSD but that is just an attempt to describe it, its definitely a complete psychedelic of itself and a full on trip.

Later in the trip your visuals will be increasing rather than decreasing until you actually come down. I would say the euphoria keeps building an building to the point where its almost too much and you want it to stop but are loving it at the same time then you will SLOWLY fade back into baseline over the course of many many many hours.

Brilliant afterglow for days.

Oh... and visuals = strangely not like LSD but what I could consider like a combination of shrooms and mescaline, very very nice.

 

[acidclouds]

wow proz4c your description of LSA has me excited for my first proper HBWR trip tomorrow.

This is the first time in years that I've been out of LSD but if LSA is even 1/4 as good as that description I'll be very happy

 

[PROZ4C]

wow proz4c your description of LSA has me excited for my first proper HBWR trip tomorrow.

This is the first time in years that I've been out of LSD but if LSA is even 1/4 as good as that description I'll be very happy

I hope you get it right, LSA can be tricky with so many variables but when its good, its damn good.

Happy tripping.

I find it necessary to use at-least 10g worth of seeds to simply grind up and cap, or chew up and swallow.

20g for CWE, but even then it can be tricky to get a proper extraction.

 

[Joewenston]

yeah is i just chewed the seeds up and iddnt swallow them? i heard you could do this i chewed them for several mins

oh yeah i smoked some weed like an hour into it, felt good but than i got real tired for some reason nearly fell asleep thats all so far 2 1/2 hrs into it..

 

[PROZ4C]

yeah is i just chewed the seeds up and iddnt swallow them? i heard you could do this i chewed them for several mins

oh yeah i smoked some weed like an hour into it, felt good but than i got real tired for some reason nearly fell asleep thats all so far 2 1/2 hrs into it..

I've never done the sub-lingual method but I have heard it works.

2 1/2 hrs is when I start having psychedelic thought pattern kick in (but just starting and its so slow of a come up you might not notice till you are full on tripping) but visuals might be an hour away if you did it right.

How many did you chew up? Seems like sub-lingual method would be hard with MG's but much easier with HBWR.

Whatever you do don't fall asleep, there is usually a wave of two of sedation but once you get past that you will be fine. I've sleept through LSA trips before and it was pretty awesome but not as good as being awake to enjoy it. Crazy dreams lol

 

[Joewenston]

Probably not enough but about 140 or so, i didnt wanna take a too heavy of dose my first time and according to erowind this is above a light dose

 

[PROZ4C]

Probably not enough but about 140 or so, i didnt wanna take a too heavy of dose my first time and according to erowind this is above a light dose

Well a small dose is always a good idea to start off, some people around here call it "allergy testing"...

Even if you under-dosed who cares man, that just means (so long as no really bad reactions) that you are good to go with a larger amount next time and you can enjoy it with out having any big worry's about what might happen.

I'd suggest grinding up the seeds, and putting them into caps, or eating the powder mixed with yogurt or something light.

Just my opinion but sub-lingual and cold-water extractions are so hit or miss with people on here that I don't really mess with them. Consuming the whole seed is tried and true and after many experiences only results in a unpleasant come up for about 1hr, 2hrs max and then a glorious all day trip afterwards. Well worth it.

If you were to take say... 400 seeds next time, and do it proper... Fasting for 6-12 hours before hand and taking them with a very small amount of food or mint / ginger tea you will be set to have a great experience with only a mild but unavoidable come up phase.

MG's take alot of consideration to get it right rather than just dropping a piece of LSD soaked paper on your tongue. But good things await for those who are willing to put a in little effort.

 

[Joewenston]

ok nearly 4 hours ive only been feeling happy and laughing at stuff for a min nothing special. not sure if its from the weed, lsa or me just being tried...
so ima go back to the store and get some more for a weekend trip, would it be to soon?
Like would my tolerance already be up? I didnt even trip so im not sure. I actually will be out of class tommorow so you guys think i can hit a higher dose up tommorow?
I didnt really swallow much of the seeds , some but not a lot so im not sure if i really absorbed mucch LSA..

Also does it matter im using 'Clarkes Heavenly Blues" i got em from the dollar store so im guessing maybe its just a diff brand name,..
Plus i dont have a grinder dude so i feel like i can only really chew them, swallowing them whole works? I heard the LSA has to be dissolved in your saliva or something..
i tried with a hammer on a paper plate, just didnt work haha im not sure how else to get them in powder so i can eat them with ice cream or something

 

[PROZ4C]

ok nearly 4 hours ive only been feeling happy and laughing at stuff for a min nothing special. not sure if its from the weed, lsa or me just being tried...
so ima go back to the store and get some more for a weekend trip, would it be to soon?
Like would my tolerance already be up? I didnt even trip so im not sure. I actually will be out of class tommorow so you guys think i can hit a higher dose up tommorow?
I didnt really swallow much of the seeds , some but not a lot so im not sure if i really absorbed mucch LSA..

Also does it matter im using 'Clarkes Heavenly Blues" i got em from the dollar store so im guessing maybe its just a diff brand name,..
Plus i dont have a grinder dude so i feel like i can only really chew them, swallowing them whole works? I heard the LSA has to be dissolved in your saliva or something..
i tried with a hammer on a paper plate, just didnt work haha im not sure how else to get them in powder so i can eat them with ice cream or something

Swallowing them whole will not work. You must either chew them when you eat them or grind them up before hand.

I'll warn you, chewing enough MG seeds to trip off is rarely possible for me. Before I got a good seed chopper I tried tripping a few times and simply could not keep eating them, its not exactly the taste even though it is horrid, but something about them just triggers an intense nausea.

Now I don't get intense nausea when I grind and cap them. I think it has to do with the material reacting to the taste-buds.

I would wait at-least a day maybe two for tolerance issues and you will be set.

 

[Splitz]

If you can get HBWR seeds instead of MGs then I actually quite liked the taste. MGs are just foul in the extreme. the woodrose seeds I almost enjoyed... a sort of nutty flavour. Besides this you'll only need to chomp a handful.

Scooping handful after handful of MGs into my mouth must have looked comical though 8)

 

[Joewenston]

Well, i tried again, didnt count but it was around 5 grams or an estimated 180-200 seeds.
Didnt feel anything but nausea. I did smoke some weed about 2 hours later, the high was def good but nothin to even close to call trippin or seeing much. I guess my color sense was heightended thats about it?

I mean i crushed them in a baggie, with a hammer,saw a lot of powder., Than put them in pudding and ate it (ill probly never ear pudding again btw).
I have no idea what im doing wrong :/

 

[Joewenston]

If you can get HBWR seeds instead of MGs then I actually quite liked the taste. MGs are just foul in the extreme. the woodrose seeds I almost enjoyed... a sort of nutty flavour. Besides this you'll only need to chomp a handful.

Scooping handful after handful of MGs into my mouth must have looked comical though 8)

yeah only thing is i still live with my parents, i get home before them but still, i dont wanna take those chances or i would trust me..

 

[PROZ4C]

Well, i tried again, didnt count but it was around 5 grams or an estimated 180-200 seeds.
Didnt feel anything but nausea. I did smoke some weed about 2 hours later, the high was def good but nothin to even close to call trippin or seeing much. I guess my color sense was heightended thats about it?

I mean i crushed them in a baggie, with a hammer,saw a lot of powder., Than put them in pudding and ate it (ill probly never ear pudding again btw).
I have no idea what im doing wrong :/

Could be the seeds.

Could be that you tried again so close to the first dose.

If you were at near threshold there would still be some tolerance build up.

Seed quality and freshness seems to be a huge variable, I suggest wallmart and the brand "burpee" for their heavenly blues for all your gardening needs, they grow the best by far

 

[acidclouds]

If you can get HBWR seeds instead of MGs then I actually quite liked the taste. MGs are just foul in the extreme. the woodrose seeds I almost enjoyed... a sort of nutty flavour. Besides this you'll only need to chomp a handful.

I dont know about liking the taste but yeah chewing HBWR wasnt a problem for me at all. Holding the gunk and saliva that built up in my mouth for 30 mins was less pleasant but not a big deal either.

I would rather do this than grind and parachute or CWE even if chewing results in a bit more nausea because its just easier and I know that I'm getting all the LSA into my body.

 

[Joewenston]

Could be the seeds.

Could be that you tried again so close to the first dose.

If you were at near threshold there would still be some tolerance build up.

Seed quality and freshness seems to be a huge variable, I suggest wallmart and the brand "burpee" for their heavenly blues for all your gardening needs, they grow the best by far

alright dude thanks for all the help gonna hit up Walmart later and try around 400 tommorow, hopefully it isnt too extreme!:D
Does my method with the pudding seem fine, i might nix it in something else though, maybe in some ginger ale (Canada dry) amd just chug it..
i feel like throwing up anytime i think about pudding now haha.
Oh yeah, would you say id experience more in the day walking around, or tripping at night ? Day time i can actually walk around, night not so much, except for just outside in the yard or something.

 

[Splitz]

That's entirely down to what you prefer. I like to trip at night, I time it so I see the sunrise and enjoy the fresh morning feeling. Try both.

Now to decide which to try first haha.

 

[PROZ4C]

alright dude thanks for all the help gonna hit up Walmart later and try around 400 tommorow, hopefully it isnt too extreme!:D
Does my method with the pudding seem fine, i might nix it in something else though, maybe in some ginger ale (Canada dry) amd just chug it..
i feel like throwing up anytime i think about pudding now haha.
Oh yeah, would you say id experience more in the day walking around, or tripping at night ? Day time i can actually walk around, night not so much, except for just outside in the yard or something.

Depends on where you are. If you are in setting with lots of lights then night tripping can be awesome. If you are in a rural setting I would rather do it in the day.

400 should be just fine, It's a perfect amount in my opinion. I have gone as high as 800 and its only a slightly more intense trip but you start getting into physical body load at that level so it's not really worth it. 400 is the sweet spot in my opinion / experience.

That's 400 for consuming the seeds though, when doing CWE I double the seed count to make up for loss of potency.

Pudding or yogurts really help to eat them, but by the end you will be disgusted either way. I know how you feel, I get sick when I think of nutella because I used it to eat the seeds so many times.

That was before I got a seed chopper though... I would have to chew up the whole seeds along with food to cover it up. Helped but I still hand to chew those things for so long to actually get them mushed up...

Now if I were to mix some powdered seeds with yogurt I could simply just swallow it rather than having to chew forever and its much less nauseating sometimes none at all.

 

[Joewenston]

okay guys im good thanks again, ill probably go with a day trip first i just love how bright and beautiful it gets

One more question, if i do end up tripping in the day, would people be able to notice (authority figures like my parents or cops etc) Ill be strolling around town but if some reason i have to come home and encounter my parents, can they really tell or would my pupils just be dialated?

Ive been around my step dad on 300mg of dxm before he didnt even notice...
my mom mightve, but im pretty quiet at home so like would i be able to talk normally for a few ? I doubt itll leave me as anti social as a dissociative..
They wont be suspecting anything first off, especially if i am home so thats good. Unless im just trippin bawls with no idea whats going on hahaha.

oh yea oh yeah, what do you guys like doing while tripping alone? Any movie suggestions? Which type of music genre would be best?
For some reason, now this is just a guess, im thinking The Red Hot Chili Peppers would be awesome..