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PLURgurl

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Hey, so basically this is whats been happening. When i first tried X, I was given a Molly. And it was amazing. Words cant describe. But ive been rolling since then about every weekend. So its been about 7 times that I've rolled.
Well lately, my rolls have been horrible. I thought it was just the tabs I was taking. But the last time i rolled was with Molly, and it was basically the same feeling with the tabs:

First, I get sick to my stomach. I feel like im gonna throw up. Its not like overpowering, but its there and uncomfortable. I take the pills whole, and i never take over 2 tabs, and ive never taken more then 1 1/2 molly.

Second, I feel very tired when i start to roll. I will have blasts of energy, but then i feel like sitting down. My eyes arent wide open like they were the first time i took Molly. And sometimes they close on their own.

Third, I feel very sluggish.

Fourth, I've noticed that I'm not talkative with people, and i kind of retreat to myself. Which is not me. And which is the TOTAL opposite of the other times I've rolled.

I take vitamins C, b-6, 5-htp everyday.
I drink plenty of water when i roll and make sure I dont get overheated.

So I really need some advice and help.
I'm trying to do everything I can to make my rolls amazing, but it's not working.

Am I doing something wrong?
Or is there something else happening that i dont know about?

Please Help.
 
How often are you using MDMA? Without proper spacing, MDMA can take a turn and feel quite the opposite of rolling- anti social, disconnected etc.

Also, have you reagent tested (www.dancesafe.org) what you are consuming? Regardless of the source, testing is always essential.
 
You need to take a break. Go read Erowid and make sure your being responsible because as far as I can tell your doing everything right except waiting ONCE A MONTH!
 
Do you guys honestly think that he would be feeling the effects of rolling too much after only 7 times of use? I mean you will definitely get a better roll if you wait to do it once a month but it took me a while of rolling every weekend until I felt negative side effects. Plus he is taking fairly low amounts compared to some people who don't lose the magic that quickly. When I roll now I kind of keep to myself also, definitely not a ton more talkative than normal but I guess I just assume that is from getting used to the feeling since it is nothing new to me anymore. Your side effects definitely are pretty weird and you should wait another 4-6 weeks to try it again and see if there is a better effect. If there is than the answer to your problem is that you're doing it too frequently. I never felt that but I guess we are all wired differently. stay safe.
 
Your tolerance is peaking..you have downregualted your serotonin receptors, depleted your serotonin. Also IMO serotonin can make you feel sleepy. Does not matter how much you take VITAMINS or other stuff. you need time. STOP MDMA for 6 months! at least..! it is drug, you have to know drugs are not good.
 
You're definitely doing it too often. Every weekend? Not good. You should be doing it once a month, maximum.

Getting sick to your stomach while coming up is normal. Not the greatest but some people have more sensitive stomachs than others.

Don't take 5-HTP every day either. You shouldn't be taking it that often.

But even after just seven weeks, seven weeks of usage every weekend is bad. The first time I used mdma, I waited like a month or month and a half to the next time. The second, third, and fourth time were three weekends in a row. I was definitely feeling it by the third weekend. And I would never do that again! And I definitely wouldn't recommend it. It was a bad idea for sure. But yeah, you will feel it.
 
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Try eliminating the 5-HTP. I know a lot of folks are gonna disagree with this one, but I bet if you give it up for say, two weeks, then roll, you'll be pleasantly surprised.
 
I started taking 5-htp two weeks ago because I was having the worst crashes from tabs. I was literally suicidal and crying during the comedown. So my friend told me 5-htp would help with that. And i did noticed a HUGE improvement in my crash, its practically not a crash or comedown. Its very smooth. But then again, im not sure if its the 5-htp, or it was just the tabs.
 
PLURgurl said:
I started taking 5-htp two weeks ago because I was having the worst crashes from tabs. I was literally suicidal and crying during the comedown. So my friend told me 5-htp would help with that. And i did noticed a HUGE improvement in my crash, its practically not a crash or comedown. Its very smooth. But then again, im not sure if its the 5-htp, or it was just the tabs.
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I would deff stop for AWHILE if you are suicidal during your comedowns..
Do you not know what MDMA does?? It depletes a lot of your serotonin which affects your mood. The more you deplete it the more it will lead to depression. You're doing it too often if you are suicidal after it. Also the more often you do it, the harder your crash will become.
 
Crashes are insane! I had a terrible crash from doing it twice last weekend. Suicidal isn't even the word. My whole world turned dark, dim and very lifeless... it was maybe one of the worst feelings I've had in a long time... 5-htp helps with that, but you're not supposed to take it every day...

I would also recommend doing it a lot less. I always waited AT LEAST a month before doing it. I got a lot of the symptoms you describe last weekend. I took one full cap friday night and when I did again saturday, I felt as if my body was shutting down even though I was high as shit... to me, this means I took too much and I didn't have enough sleep. My body was already exhausted when I popped on Friday so by Saturday I had nothing left in me. I'd say wait AT LEAST a month, start helping your body out with exercise, propper diet and sleep and try rolling again. I'm sure you'll feel much better!
 
take a break from rolling man! take 3 months off then give it another shot. never roll more than once a month. and stop taking 5 htp every day. take it for a couple days after you roll...and maybe a couple days before your roll. but never take it the same day that you roll
 
I guess this means its break time.

Thanks everyone for the advise!
I guess ill be taking a break from X for a while, and see how that does me.
 
Okay, there are three things you have to do here.

1. Take a break, you shouldn't be rolling so often. Every weekend is NOT healthy, you should be taking a one month break between rolls at the very least, and even then, three or more is optimal. MDMA is a very special drug, you need to treat it with respect rather than abuse it. Take a 6+ month break before you try again.

2. Test your pills/powder/rocks. There's no such thing as a trusted source when it comes to drugs, you need to make sure they're legitimate MDMA pills/capsules. You can buy a test kit online from DanceSafe or EZTest.

3. Don't take 5-htp before you roll. 5-htp is for post loading (taking after your roll) and will actually limit or even entirely diminish your roll if you take it before hand. Stop taking it a week to a month before you're going to roll again.

Please, don't abuse MDMA, or any other drug for that matter. Respect the drugs you do, or just don't do them. Take 1-3 (or more) month breaks between rolls and test your pills. Stay safe while you roll :) Have fun.
 
5-HTP helps for like a couple days after but don't take it regularly.
 
As everyone else had said, you need to take a break and then roll less often.
I disagree with everyone telling you to stop taking 5-htp. My therapist recommended it to me for depression and it works very well. I was also told that taking a baby aspirin with it will help, but I haven't done any research on that. I usually stop taking my 5-htp a few days before I'm planning to roll and haven't had any problems. And then I begin taking it again during the comedown. Good luck, I hope you start feeling better :)
 
Really you should be waiting 2-3 months in between rolls period. If you even go for every other month your putting your receptors at risk for serious depletion which can lead to agonizing depression and most certainly suicidal thoughts in those predisposed for them.

If you decide to take the well trodden path of every other weekend (chosen even by experts such as myself) you should certainly supplement with 5-htp regularly after you roll and make sure your body is stocked up on vitamins and nutrients before you even take the drugs. If your rolling every weekend and noticing weaker rolls and harsher comedowns serotonin depletion is most likely your problem and can be fixed by simply not rolling for anywhere from 1-6 months with 6 months being the best.

After that limit yourself to one indulgence a month and the magic should return. If you continue to see problems a one year abstinance may be the course you have to take in order to reestablish your natural brain chemistry and carefully monitor your use from there. I would seriously only recommend rolling once every month or AT MOST every other weekend. Any more and you will start to see very negative side affects on your mood and overall feeling of well being. Not to mention who wants to risk losing the "magic" when there is a simple step one can take in order to prevent it.
 
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