Philosopher's stones

[Ski-bum]

I'm heading to Dam alone unfortunately, I have some friends up there now but I doubt they will take them with me. I'll be staying at a hostel so I may meet like-minded people to hang with.

Just wondering if any one has taken these. I might take them alone if I don't find anyone to take them with me. What is the high like? I've take a small dose of Acid once and a few shrooms, both times I barely got a body high.

I want to trip while I'm there and wondering if alone is a good idea? These truffles are the only legal shrooms on Dam because of the ban. I hear it is a bit less visual and more introspective. Will they make me giggle as fuck? What sort of environment should I take them in, at night or during the day?

Thanks for the info, I hope I meet some cool people up there. Some that wouldn't mind tripping together or going to the clubs.

 

[twelvesevndi]

i ate them once and they are a lot like mushrooms!
if i was gonna trip in amsterdam i would get a bike and go down to vondel park.
to me, tripping in the red light district seems like begging for a bad trip somehow

 

[psychedelic muffin]

They have psilocin (the drug that makes you trip) in them and so do shrooms. I don't see why it would be any different. The amount of weight you have to eat is different but that's about it.
Do them however you want to do them. Just make sure your not aorund too many people in public since you don't have any experience tripping.

 

[AndroidsDreamofBTC]

I would say Philosopher's Stones tend to have a darker, more sinister edge than most strains of cubensis. They can still be fun when done in the right set and setting.

I'd be careful doing them with people you don't know very well. Make sure, they are super chill.

 

[abrad84]

It sounds like you have minimal experience with psychedelics. I think it would be best to abstain from tripping in a strange city on your own.

 

[_89_]

I have some dried Philosopher's Stones that I acquired online a few years ago and still haven't got around to trying, they are currently about as hard as nuts - what would be the best way to prepare them for ingestion? I was thinking about soaking them in water over night.

Also I know that the wet to dry ratio is different from other Mushrooms, what dose range would be appropriate for someone relatively experienced with psychedelics but just looking for an introduction to these?

 

[Solipsis]

Philosophers Stones main thread! (shroom subthread)

About 10-15 grams wet/fresh would be good. They are about 2-3 times as potent by weight as cubensis mushrooms.

The magic of the search engine

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/4274104

How potent is sclerotia when compared with cubensis?

It depends.

Fresh sclerotia is 2x as potent as fresh cubensis... gram for gram.

Dry sclerotia is 2/3 as potent as dry cubensis gram for gram.

"WTF?", you ask.

No, mexicana doesn't lose a HUGE amount of potency when it is dried.

When fresh, Mexicana sclerotia is 30% dry matter and only 70% water. Compare this to a fresh cube which is 90% water and only 10% dry matter. When you eat fresh sclerotia... for every bite you take, you are eating 3X as much fungus per bite than you do when you chew on a fresh cube.

Once dried, the potency comparison changes completely. Without the water, a dry gram of sclerotia is 100% dry matter and a gram of cubensis is 100% dry matter too. Duh! So a dry gram of sclerotia contains the same amount of dry matter as a dry gram of cubensis. Simple.

Dry sclerotia is only 2/3 as potent as dry cubensis.

That is how it is.

What follows is some simple math. Perhaps this will make more sense to some people.

If cubensis potency = 1

Then, sclerotia potency = 2/3 = .66666666666

If fresh sclerotia contains 3X as much dry matter per gram as fresh cubensis,

Then, fresh sclerotia = .66666666666 X 3 = 2

Fresh sclerotis is 2X as potent as cubensis.

 

[Transform]

They are very similar to shrooms. I would recommend no more than 10-12g for your first time, make no mistake that will be plenty strong enough, especially in a strange city on your own.

 

[slimvictor]

It sounds like you have minimal experience with psychedelics. I think it would be best to abstain from tripping in a strange city on your own.

I second this motion.
If you do feel the need to trip, I would take a small dose, so as to have a bit more control over my experience.
When I ate a quarter of what was sold to me as "one dose" of philosopher's stones in Amsterdam, I had a fairly strong experience. I wouldn't recommend going over that amount, or tripping with people you don't know well enough to trust.

 

[Ski-bum]

My hotel is in the museum district, so I won't be far from the big park. I've been to Dam 3x already so it is a bit familiar. Although yeah I'd prefer to do it with people I know well.