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Benzos A lot of benzo questions...(Xanax)

budsnbars712

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These questions are mainly for Xanax but some could definitely be answered by overall benzo users.

(Sorry for this long background description, I feel it is necessary)

I guess I'll give background on how I began the drug, and where I am at now with it. I am currently taking Xanax for about 9 months now. I started by taking .5mg-1mg last August. I would do 2 mg bars also then but could feel the effect of euphoria and anxiety relief from the .5mg-1mg. I began Xanax because I have been dealing with anxiety for years as I over-think everything and anything. A friend who loved Xanax at the time recommended trying a half a bar (1mg) for anxiety relief. I instantly loved it and began to take it as much as possible (not over doing it). At my peak I was doing 4 mgs a day and flying high at all times (last September). I would never take 4 mg in one dose at this point of my life though.

I had been getting bars off the street for a couple months at this point. I slowly lost my Xanax connects and was not able to take them often once the winter rolled around. I would be off for a couple weeks and then get my hands on a couple mgs and do 1-2 mgs in a dose. This dosage was still doing the job as I would still get a "body high" and also get the anxiety relief I was originally looking for. That was 6 months after I had began the drug.
After getting fed up with not being able to get my hands on bars easily, I decided to make a doctor's appointment about my anxiety.

I went to the doctor's looking to get Xanax as I loved them at this point and was indulging heavily. Of course I should have expected to not be prescribed Xanax as there are a million and a half drugs in the world, but my hopes were high. I went in there and did not tell the doctor I have been taking Xanax and that "it works" for me. I did not want to ruin the chances of getting them. I was prescribed Zoloft which if you are not familiar, is an SSRI anti-depressant which works for OCD, anxiety relief (apparently), and other disorders. I started at 50 mgs, then moved up 25 mgs every month for the next 3 months. I am currently at 100 mgs of Zoloft. I still don't feel a relief from Zoloft, but this is besides the point.

The second doctor's appointment I made it a point to get Xanax prescribed somehow. This I did achieve as I said I was given one (.5mg) and it worked. I did not want to tell him I have been taking 2 mgs a day. Point being I was prescribed .25-.5 mg as much as needed. The pills are .25mg. When I wanted to indulge and feel good I would take 8 equaling a bar (2mg). This did the job.

I also drink with my Xanax when I want to get a little more fcked up at night. Never more than 4 beers, never less than 2. So this is where my questions begin...I seem to not feel the Xanax as much as I used to and after reading A LOT of posts on here, I found out that benzo tolerance can go up and be hard to get down. Yesterday I acquired 20 mg of Xanax gg249 white bars. So I take 2 mg last night and am not feeling the effects like I used to (I wasn't drinking). This led me to take another bar so a total of 4 mgs in about an hour. I still did not achieve the same high I could off of the eight .25 mgs I get scripted. Today I took 2 mgs and did not achieve the feeling I NORMALLY would again. Now I am starting to not enjoy bars....The number one reason I began taking them is because they relieved my anxiety and made me euphoric and I was able to interact with people that I normally can't stand. This is no longer the case...

Questions:
1) Am i becoming tolerant to Xanax, or benzos in general, or is my personality just getting used to the feelings of xanax at this point as I read elsewhere?

2) Does the Zoloft effect how the Xanax is effecting me? I read it would only enhance it, but what if the Zoloft is starting to work for me achieving that "happiness" as its supposed to or "relief" already, so the Xanax doesn't effect that anymore or me in general?

3) Is upping my dosage to 4 mgs dangerous? I clearly have somewhat of a tolerance but I read that if you take more than 4 mgs a day, the withdrawals are especially dangerous and nasty.

4) If I DO take 4 mgs each dose, will I not be able to handle the usual alcohol I normally consume? (2-4 beers, or in this case right now, 4-5 shots of vodka over a couple hours).

5) Could the reason that I'm not feeling them is because 8 .25 mg's has a lot more surface area or what not than a small 2mg bar?

Any help is appreciated as I do a lottt of research on this website and could not find these answers specifically. I feel one question affects the others, as the first question is easy to answer, but when taking into consideration the other questions, it becomes more complex.
 
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Hey OP,

You're trying to get high off of the meds as opposed to using them as they are meant to be used, which is in this case as an anxiolytic. Benzos are not a long term solution and abusing them as you are (i.e. getting euphoria) is going to make the medication less helpful in areas you need it, especially now that you have a constant supply and will see you tolerance go up even more.

I'll draw the analogy of people in pain using narcotics to get high and then they need a lot more just to kill their pain. Your pain is anxiety.

1) Am i becoming tolerant to Xanax, or benzos in general, or is my personality just getting used to the feelings of xanax at this point as I read elsewhere?
You've built a tolerance. You can call part of it the lack of perception of noticing your high because you are used to it if you want, but there is a physical mechanism at work as well.

2) Does the Zoloft effect how the Xanax is effecting me? I read it would only enhance it, but what if the Zoloft is starting to work for me achieving that "happiness" as its supposed to or "relief" already, so the Xanax doesn't effect that anymore or me in general?
I don't really understand this question or perhaps already answered it above (i.e. you are tolerant).

3) Is upping my dosage to 4 mgs dangerous? I clearly have somewhat of a tolerance but I read that if you take more than 4 mgs a day, the withdrawals are especially dangerous and nasty.
Tolerance is tolerance and withdrawals are withdrawals. The higher the tolerance the worse the withdrawal. It's not dangerous so long as you can taper back down but it is definitely more dangerous.

4) If I DO take 4 mgs each dose, will I not be able to handle the usual alcohol I normally consume? (2-4 beers, or in this case right now, 4-5 shots of vodka over a couple hours).
It would not be a good idea to mix them right after upping your dose but as your tolerance grows the benzos will just get you to baseline and you can drink again.

5) Could the reason that I'm not feeling them is because 8 .25 mg's has a lot more surface area or what not than a small 2mg bar?
No.
 
Mixing ethanol and benzos means you'll grow an even quicker tolerance, and then if you're frustrated taking eight 0.25mg tablets at once, imagine how much more frustrating it'll be to need more than 10 at a time. 8(
 
Almost all of the gg249 bars available on USA on the street are nothing but talc. So maybe thats the reason you felt nothing. Same advice goes for any online purchases.
 
Thank you to both moderators. I understand a little bit more. Is it true that the gg249's are mainly talc? I know you cant identify pills and what not, but are the majority TALC? or is that a rumor?
 
Imo they are the most counterfeited products available on the Internet. Just check other forums where you can discuss about vendors. It is a well known fact around.
 
I am starting to think these are fakes. I did read up a lot on fake gg249s and I guess I can't do the real test until I get my script for the weaker ones in a week and a half.
 
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Im kinda fucking pissed (excuse language). I just don't know what to think about these bars. I guess ill know for sure, like I said once I get my script, but like I said, I see so much info on fake gg249's going around. I hear some are bitter, some have a benzo, but not alprazolam. I just don't know what to think. I think I might parachute 4 mg's to find out once and for all...
 
I would recommend flushing away those bars as no one ever knows what else they might contain but I really doubt they are alprazolam. I had few seized and tested from known UK vendor year ago and they contained no alprazolam but instead floor wax etc. I would stick to name brand 1mg pills if ordering online. I know only one IOP that sends real 2mg bars and they are totally same as what I can get from local pharmacy.
 
After 'chuting 4 mg's, I do feel something. I honestly don't know if its Alprozalam though. It has only been 20 minutes but I am still unsure. I don't 'black out' or get amnesia like I usually do. I guess, like I said, I'll have to wait for my script from the pharmacy to know for sure if this is just the way Alprozalam affects me now. If I do feel more affects from these, I will post... If I can get more opinions, especially about originally posted questions, I would appreciate it. Thanks!
 
So I am 90% sure that those were bunk pills, after going thru 9 of them. I was not sure if my tolerance had gone up as that's the reason I originally made the post. After parachuting 2 full bars, I had felt a little something, as I do think that they might be phenazepam. I read many things about fake bars containing that Russian benzo. I tried it a couple more times and did not feel anything off of a single bar. As bad as it is knowing I got ripped off one way or another, I am glad that my xanax tolerance didnt go up. Just got bad pills. I will confirm this on May 2nd as that is when I get my prescription.
 
It is may 2nd, so I figured I would update the thread as I said I would.... I took 1 mg of xanax from my prescription (which was upped to 60 .5 mg tabs instead of 60 .25's) and already feel way more than I did from even 2 of those bars (4mg). Those bars had to be fake as I still have one and wish I could get it tested. That probably will not be able to happen though as I wouldn't know how to go about it and don't want to pay an extreme amount. Well anyway, the xanax was fake. Fuck fake gg249's, and fake pill makers. Thanks for all the help!
 
After 'chuting 4 mg's, I do feel something. I honestly don't know if its Alprozalam though. It has only been 20 minutes but I am still unsure. I don't 'black out' or get amnesia like I usually do. I guess, like I said, I'll have to wait for my script from the pharmacy to know for sure if this is just the way Alprozalam affects me now. If I do feel more affects from these, I will post... If I can get more opinions, especially about originally posted questions, I would appreciate it. Thanks!

Tell you what man, parachuting just makes everything take longer. Don't go and do a maximum dose like you would when you parachuted or just swallowed em whole, but really, you could just crush em, put em on your tongue, and swallow it down with a drink (Not soda, trust me), not that I would recommend something like this.......
 
My boy I got those bars from admitted they were fake finally. Lost mad money, but what are you gonna do. He got fucked too. And to respond to desert, Benzos are a bad road to go down, but it relieves my anxiety better than this shitty 125 mg of zoloft, and atleast I don't shoot dope like half the people on here (no offence).
 
i feel your pain man, anxiety sucks. but you don't wanna go through benzo withdrawal. and the habit gets quite expensive as your tolerance rises so quickly. i'm a 5'1" girl and can probably take more than you without feeling shit, i'm not bragging. it totally sucks :p i was taking them for anxiety too, and after a while they didn't even help the anxiety. i just felt tired, stupid and couldn't remember jack shit. it was embarrassing. i wanted to quit for a while but couldn't bring myself to do it until i lost my connect. then i had to scramble around begging friends to help me find some so i could taper off. it was hell. i know how it feels though, you want to jump out of your skin, you take a xanax, then you feel that cooling sensation come over your body and you're relaxed and ready to take on the world. that feeling stops after a while, i can promise you that.

edit: and i forgot to mention. i used to mix it with alcohol too. a couple shots of vodka and a football and i could do anything. but, after a while you turn into a sloppy mess. slurring, being an asshole, not remembering what you did or how you got home, giving yourself a concussion (oops :P) etc...
 
i disagree i've done benzos for over 7 years now and i use more than i'm prescribed 2mg 3x a day i take 6 to 15 bars at a time and i don't act like an ass anymore though i did go through a phase but now they just relax me and if i misjudge the amount i can take at that particular moment they make me fairly forgetful but i still stay cool calm and collected
 
i disagree i've done benzos for over 7 years now and i use more than i'm prescribed 2mg 3x a day i take 6 to 15 bars at a time and i don't act like an ass anymore though i did go through a phase but now they just relax me and if i misjudge the amount i can take at that particular moment they make me fairly forgetful but i still stay cool calm and collected

30mg and fairly forgetful, eh? I guess you're getting the fake bars too.
 
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