Smoking pot in moderation and tapping into a greater consciousness.

[Ritalin LA40 NYC]

Hello,

I'm curious if anyone else feels like they are tapping into some sort of greater consciousness when they smoke.

Its a little odd, but lately I have been experiencing a new phenomenon. When I'm high I seem to be a lot more observant and intuitive. Almost borderline ESP.

Does anyone know exactly what I'm experiencing?

Thanks,

Seb

P.S. Someone asked in an earlier thread if pot was causing their depression?
I would say that in the short term, pot can alleviate depression. Sadly after a while of chronic smoking (at least for me), I become very depressed.
DON'T BE LIKE ME! I WASTED 10+ YEARS OF MY LIFE IN A ZOMBIE STATE BEFORE I WOKE UP ONE DAY. Everything in moderation.

 

[coelophysis]

Of course you're tappin' in, you're high.

What is moderate weed use in your opinion?

 

[Jabberwocky]

Welcome to BL Ritalin LA40 NYC, I'm going to move this from support to Philosophy & Spirituality. Once there I'll likely move it to a megathread about psychedelic insights.

My opinion is to savor peak experiences chemically induced or not but to never have an expectation the world will operate differently because of my new found insights. Thinking the world should conform to anyone's new blazing insights is a road to psychosis by my observation.

Support forum where this thread started out is more about technical problems with using the site or general site feedback.

Support------------------------------------->P&S

 

[Pegasus]

Drugs that alter perception give you a different perspective on life. The same thought processes don't occur without these drugs. In particular, psychedelics (including MDMA and cannabis) are responsible for the most radical changes in perception and thus have the most ability to "think outside the box". Note that I said "ability"... Nothing positive is guaranteed to come from these drugs. However, many people that enjoy these drugs enjoy them specifically because of these abilities to induce different states of consciousness and to explore the far corners of the mind. It is usually positive things that come out of this state, but some degree of mental difficulty could certainly be triggered as well so responsible use is necessary.

 

[Pegasus]

My opinion is to savor peak experiences chemically induced or not but to never have an expectation the world will operate differently because of my new found insights. Thinking the world should conform to anyone's new blazing insights is a road to psychosis by my observation.

Why anyone think the world changes in response to their perception? I'm not understanding what you mean by this. I don't understand how anyone could think that a personal experience like tripping can somehow cause others to behave differently... Surely you don't mean this, but I can't make out any other meaning.

I can see the problem with someone believing an illogical thought induced by psychedelics and changing their life to fit this concept, but if the thought that occurred while tripping still makes sense sober, I don't see the harm in accepting it as true (if verifiable) or possibly true (if not verifiable). I have plenty of illogical thoughts when tripping, but the next day I do not find it hard to dismiss the illogical thoughts but embrace the logical ones. It seems that my friends can usually separate the two as well...

 

[panic in paradise]

anything can be and eventually can become of enlightenment to an individual.

~ you only must make it so.

though, Enki is correct,, to invest too much personal attachment unto an object, is indeed A' slip of oneself - in a nonsensical manner...

this is a bit extreme, but true... there are several drug induced ' spiritual-attainment-threads ' floating about, on the first or second page here. they are all descriptive of each other really, as this would be also. definitely try and check those other threads out, seems like months or years worth of opinions&theories - or facts to dwell on...


btw, i am stoned..! & it is good.

i hope you find what you're looking for.

 

[Legerity]

I will sometimes get some interesting insights after smoking. Other times I'll just get anxious or brain-dead.

I try to take things less seriously now. There are some interesting insights to be had with various substances, but for me anyways attempting to grasp at them has probably pushed them away more than anything.

I just seem to get high for the sake of getting high. Insights may come but for now I'm usually not specifically seeking them, or convincing myself that I'm seeking them when in reality I just want to feel good.

If you feel that these experiences are worth exploring then go for it

 

[sssssssssss]

It lifts you from some of the biased conditions youve placed on your thinking capabilities that you have developed from growing up and lisening to others, making you realize, "maybe life isnt what everyone has fed me afterall."

Welcome to the world of free thinking.
The faster you realize this, the faster youll gain insight just from being sober!

 

[awkwardapple]

yeah I get what you mean man.


In terms of smoking in moderation I would say once a week is the way to go.

 

[qwe]

i smoke every day (many many years). i often achieve peak experiences, depending on environment, mood, tolerance.

i can't really describe them, and they're as amazing as mushrooms. i think my brain is just weird.

they do include visuals (organic and geometric, 2d and 3d, simple and absurdly complex) and a feeling of connectedness (me with the universe, and my thoughts with themselves: as if all of the parts/tools of my mind are accessible at the same time, which is what makes it a peak experience).

the best way to bring this about is to sit in dim light with headphones on.

some of my most important intellectual, and most important emotional, connections/inspirations/thoughts came about when my mind was so "interconnected". the role of cannabis in my life cannot be underestimated, just as MDMA and mushrooms (which i've only had access to a couple of times, unfortunately). it definitely helps me write papers, and bluelight posts

 

[Lost Ego]

i smoke every day (many many years). i often achieve peak experiences, depending on environment, mood, tolerance.

i can't really describe them, and they're as amazing as mushrooms. i think my brain is just weird.

they do include visuals (organic and geometric, 2d and 3d, simple and absurdly complex) and a feeling of connectedness (me with the universe, and my thoughts with themselves: as if all of the parts/tools of my mind are accessible at the same time, which is what makes it a peak experience).

the best way to bring this about is to sit in dim light with headphones on.

some of my most important intellectual, and most important emotional, connections/inspirations/thoughts came about when my mind was so "interconnected". the role of cannabis in my life cannot be underestimated, just as MDMA and mushrooms (which i've only had access to a couple of times, unfortunately). it definitely helps me write papers, and bluelight posts

It's funny because for a while i thought my brain was just wierd too. I believe people like you and me who have experimented with psychedelics have unlocked part of the brain that allows for these experiences. I too get these closed eye hallucinations, emotional, intellectual, spiritual connectedness, also audial and visual flanging and none of my friends who smoke experience this so it's kinda like we're on completely different drugs. on the negetive side i also get tunnel visioned and sometimes get panic attacks with weed. i've been smoking for some time and i still love weed and it's psychedelic capabilities. it's definitely aiding me in the process of maturing into a man. dim light + headphones does work well but i like loud music(w/o headphones) and watching a visualizer(specifically the one by winamp) and ideally smoking more weed . i've always been a lightweight and i reach this psychedelic state quite easily. qwe im glad that i found someone who experiences exactly what i do

 

[qwe]

in the thread 'how has the contact with the supernatural changed your life'.. more on cannabis' peak experiences.

NSFW:

each time i experience mysticism*, it's more profound than the previous. it seems to build on itself.

each time, my mind feels "complete", where everything is in place, and everything is "in control" (but i realize that i have no real control, it's a chemical illusion, at the same time).

i experience realizations that normally would take a lot longer to reach, because normally my thoughts are more narrow, wandering, or whatever.

i experience a profound sense of peace and bliss, and i often wonder if there is some way to convey the feeling. i even wonder, each time i enter the experience, if there is some way to store the feeling in my memory so that i can fully appreciate it while in "normal headspace". that sort of thing cannot be accurately recorded into our memories.

these mystical experiences are a huge driving force in my life, keeping me going forward. they help guide me toward that elusive "happiness", and their memories have a profound impact on my beliefs and behavior.

the usual way i induce these experiences is cannabis, but set/setting/chemistry all have to click into place. sometimes i can achieve this state for a few hours, sometimes a few minutes. sometimes i can achieve it multiple times per week, sometimes cannabis just increases my hedonistic drive. sometimes cannabis is not needed.

your mileage will vary, obviously. i seem quite sensitive to psychedelic effects (ever since an LSA trip many years ago, my entire visual system has changed, to where the world is intensely beautiful. i could try to convey how, but it wouldn't do it justice). most people need shrooms/LSD to induce these states.

i believe that we can do things with our brains that we previously thought impossible... i believe that we can, from the top down (from our consciousness) control and observe pathways of thought and emotion (those two, imo, are intertwined enough to be essentially the same process)... and as we learn more about these pathways of thought and experience, the learning builds on itself, making the next experience even more amazing.

each "trip" is completely different than other trips. commonalities between trips exist, though: an overwhelming appreciation for being alive and everything that i have; an overwhelming sense of motivation; an increase in hedonism; a sense of being in the moment and where i'm supposed to be; and a drastic increase in creativity when writing or programming or drawing or designing.

* i don't believe it's "supernatural", i believe it's neurochemical in nature... if our brains are capable of piecing together our subjective reality from mere electronic signals... then our brains are capable of making our world appear magical...

but it is still chemistry, even if it feels (literally) like i'm receiving divine inspiration from another entity.

divinity lies within.

 

[Lost Ego]

in the thread 'how has the contact with the supernatural changed your life'.. more on cannabis' peak experiences.

NSFW:

im kinda high still but very tired, ima try to make this short. i agree with you fully. I've noticed that when i feel emotions and dont speak on them when im high, my body twitches or moves. It's kind of wierd how the 2 connect and it's nice to be able to have good body awareness[if you keep reading, this kinda ties into my point]. since i'm usually pretty quiet when im higher than everybody else i've noticed alot of natural body movements that i make when i feel certain emotions, i love doing it. i experimented alot with what i do when i lie, am excited, mad, scornful, interested sexually, interested in general, etc. i've found these body gestures are common, almost universal. good to know for manipulation if u should so need to manipulate

when i get introverted when im baked i go into a zen like state. i almost wanna say i can read minds but im still exploring this currently. when there are other people around and i have headphones in/or music is on[how i relax, a form of meditation] and im high, it's as if i could empathize with a person to such an extent that i can see into their head. This is something i do with my best friend 3 times a week. i dont hear voices when nobody else is around but like right after someone leaves the room, i can still hear them talking, its wierd, it's like a little trace of their being, namely chi, was left behind and the chi has a voice(almost like pure intention[im thinking of this sort of as like a thought] attached to the energy. i feel like im so one with the world that i can sense someone's chi and know exactly how they feel or whats bothering them or what they were/are thinking about. I pretty much just need to get relaxed and high and you got some amazing super power and become a super hero. lol jk on that end part but umm im gonna go now, i need to be up in 8 hours o.o;

 

[Pegasus]

I've noticed that when i feel emotions and dont speak on them when im high, my body twitches or moves.

Wow, happens just like this with me too...

 

[Pythagoras]

P&S >> CD, return to sender if not happy. I think the specific cannabis nature of the thread will open it to a wider audience of those wishing to discuss specific drug experiences, spiritual or otherwise

 

[socalthizzn]

Hello,

I'm curious if anyone else feels like they are tapping into some sort of greater consciousness when they smoke.



DON'T BE LIKE ME! I WASTED 10+ YEARS OF MY LIFE IN A ZOMBIE STATE BEFORE I WOKE UP ONE DAY. Everything in moderation.

Stoned.

 

[8ft-Sativa]

Drugs that alter perception give you a different perspective on life. The same thought processes don't occur without these drugs. In particular, psychedelics (including MDMA and cannabis) are responsible for the most radical changes in perception and thus have the most ability to "think outside the box". Note that I said "ability"... Nothing positive is guaranteed to come from these drugs. However, many people that enjoy these drugs enjoy them specifically because of these abilities to induce different states of consciousness and to explore the far corners of the mind. It is usually positive things that come out of this state, but some degree of mental difficulty could certainly be triggered as well so responsible use is necessary.

That's perhaps the best written paragraph I have read on this forum!

Nice!

 

[eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee]

Everyday... I am naturally very perceptive however, when I smoke; It enhances my perception I can read people...I know what they are thinking just by tone of voice, the way they approach, the choice of words..even a slight twitch is letting me in. Everything is clear to me when I smoke.

I am enhanced when I smoke, in every-way. Yes I can most certainly say I am at a greater consciousness.

I am happy you are happy realising that in moderation is best for you.

 

[tranq]

When i get high, i generally just see things from a different point of view, rather than my "standard" or "Normal" way that i see things, but unlike other drugs like MDMA and its analogues, it feels real and is not making or forcing an idea or emotion onto me, rather, weed unlocks my mind to new ideas and new ways of thinking.

 

[ziggo]

I accept anything I think or feel I need to do or feel nowadays. I'm writing this shit because I can't even think of a because or reason. Maybe since most of these thoughts were from using meth in moderation so far but large doses IV. The negativity the meth has could mean that the ideas it helps with thinking of are all actually evil truths that I believe, and think I'm spreading truth but it's really only giving negative vibes to everyone. Except I don't believe that because I've just been feeling more happy and content with most of my thoughts and have never felt better in this life! Say the total average happiness I experience every day, keeps getting stronger then I've known could exist sober.

Yeah I've only done meth iv a few times so far. When I'm on it I can think about all my memories and somehow come to conclusions about my "belief" in it or the most true thing you have come to experience so far in life over this issuse you couldn't decide on. Next that belief in an idea or way can change what you know as the most none lie about what this "anything" is so far based on your experiences with that ANYTHING material or person. Could The way your brain gets wired be based on how we experience every moment in our life & the lessons we learn from them? I know in my mind when I have any existential questions they bother me enough to try to find the truth and meaning that has so far given me a happier outlook on life and each moment, even if it's not a high when you crave it.

This quote was a large factor in this thought.
"In the province of the mind, what one believes to be true either is true or becomes true."
-John C. Lilly

That's another thing with all drugs I think almost every one will cause you more negative thoughts & pain that is because they are made or filled with negative energy. Any amount of positive thought or experience can be strong but I find I normally forget anything too amazing and strong but I didn't care then, do any of you? I mean the negative thoughts they give could just be a small intrusive thought to do more or craving. I mean cravings for hard shit must be naturally evil because we I learned from my habit is I didn't get much hope for most of moments to be positive & not have pain more of the day then not.

I also don't want to try and push my positive thoughts & experiences on someone who doesn't want to hear it or isn't open minded to learning someone elses perception by using their imagination to sense it perhaps? Or maybe if someones mind wishes to stay ignorant on a topic in this moment then they will just either not be able to understand what the other person is saying or they will just not believe it more then their experience of this life yet.


That's totally fine by me! I just for some reason want to type this down and see if other people actually have similar thoughts/experiences I mean that's why i'm on this forum. And at this moment I think most people will take my for having temporaral psychosis or something but I just am living my life how I feel and think and I've made tons of new friends for what reason? Does positive energy just believe what is more positive? Same for negative energy? The amount of neg/pos energy something has determine what that someone can believe in based on how they decide.

Ok well I'm feeling like I shouldn't write down my whole book yet although I've never had this much motivation or energy to reach this dream I have because of all what I am. It's the ability we humans have to live in an unconditionally loving world that I have my believes made in, at this moment, but who knows about the future. And I'm sorry if this offends anyone or whatnot I never wish to cause pain to others or myself ever again in life, and to do that I must never tell lies. The truth may set me free or eventually just a weird happy person any possibilities are things I will accept as I accept what I feel right doing now.

This is getting very long I'm sure but it's amazing for me to just type my thoughts as the train is moving just because I wanted to and felt like this was meant to be done if I can finish and I want to re-read my weird ideas from my sober perspective so I can see if I need to dismiss myself as well!

Also why I picked this topic I guess was from my idea that pot gives me the ability to be creative in whatever way and also to figure out things that puzzled me in the past. Whereas I feel like this meth gives me thoughts that have changed me and I can't return but I'm loving this moment and feel good about the rest. If anything my strongest dream right now is to find the ultimate love or the strongest energy I can think of, and it to me must be a person that you and them can both love each other as much as you love yourself and if you love yourself fully and completely & unconditionally as you then you can to everyone else as well. The others won't take your energy if you give it but that true lover person will be able to feel that experience with you. Now I don't feel like I want to make people think anything or try to sell my "shit" but then why do I talk about anything with more passion or more comfort and truth?

I always needed to know the answers about how my brain works with relation to the rest of the universe. The desire to learn all the experience I've had to the best of my ability and it's lead me to this spot. Far many more walls of text exist in my mind to try and write a book with eventually. I'm lucky I suppose if anyone even could follow this tweekd out ramble of mine, but if one of you tells me it's lead to positive feelings in your life I would be glad I did this, and if not I'll stop telling these delusional thoughts to others and just be happy I feel better and don't crave the drug that could have killed me with how I was abusing it. love & peace don't do meth if I have scared you, I know I will try and never use it again and I hope my willpower will keep me in check.

I wish I could just write only what really applies to this topic, but these thoughts to me are just in my mind can fit anything. Also that if you were meant to read this then I guess I was meant to post it for your gain of information/insight and everyone either creates or destroys what it is that gets in the way of their dream.