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how is ketamine a party drug?

DwayneHoover said:
^ Extreme a-typical homosexuality... very fringe practices... sorry, did not want to start a discussion just note that what person originally wrote about and made sound common are NOT "typical" homosexuality but quite rare. I just wanted to correct that, not start a discussion. But why you are bothering to mention that again is beyond me.
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because he has repression issues and his original comment was altered by mods

talking about it is the first step;)
 
Hey... everyones definition of 'party' can be different... so of course ket and mxe can be party drugs people....
 
DwayneHoover said:
^ Extreme a-typical homosexuality... very fringe practices... sorry, did not want to start a discussion just note that what person originally wrote about and made sound common are NOT "typical" homosexuality but quite rare. I just wanted to correct that, not start a discussion. But why you are bothering to mention that again is beyond me.
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No it's not a-typical. PNP and/or barebacking is not something that I personally want to engage in or do at all, but to pretend that it's atypical or very, very rare among bisexual and gay men and the greater LGBT community is showing how you're either in denial or out of touch with issues that effect queer-bisexual and gay men, and the LGBT community today.

Fisting is way more common than people want to admit. I understand that you're vanilla and find fisting squeamish which is fine, but lots of men and women of all sexual orientations do engage in fisting as a regular sex act, or have done fisting before. I know all sorts of men and women who are into fisting mostly giving but some are into getting fisted, and they do not PNP on meth, Ketamine, herb, or even poppers/Amyl.

I don't mean to argue with you but you can go on any site like manhunt, gay.com, or even craigslist and just do a search for PNP, party/parTy, tina, raw/bare/bb, or other terms and just look at the large number of profiles/posts that come up. Even when I've lived in rural areas it was there and friends of mine from all parts of the country have told me how even in their areas there's a major problem with gay and bisexual men using meth, coke, K, and other drugs and barebacking. I know a gay man from Cincinatti and he told me how he has used crystal meth.

Where I'm from there's a major problem with people PNP'ing on all sorts of drugs-even K, in the local LGBT community. There's a bath house where lots of barebacking and drug use openly goes on. No I have never been there or to any bath house; but it's not a secret and people who are into that sort of thing go there to do it in their private rooms sucking on glass dicks full of tina and looking for multiple men to get fucked bare/raw by, or they just get high before they go to the baths.

PNP is not a new thing it went on for decades even before the term was coined and long before HIV was known about. Friends of mine who are older bisexual and gay men told me about how in the 70s and early 80s people would get high on all sorts of drugs and trick with wild abandon.

No I have never barebacked with any men or women. I don't have sex while on drugs or even drunk.
 
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i would much rather do a huge line of k all alone and chill and hole
 
PriestTheyCalledHim said:
I know lots of bisexual and gay men who are not into vanilla sex and some do enjoy fisting even if they don't use drugs and do practice safer sex so maybe that's it? IME fisting is way more common than people want to admit or talk about. Lots of men have tried it once or a few times on the giving or receiving end and it's not something they do all the time when they have sex, or they might have tried it and discovered that it is not for them.

Heh I find fisting in porn both with men and women to be HOT but I don't want to see a rosebud, prolapse, or blossom. 8o Some of my friends who are into fisting find them hot for some reason. I have a friend that's an anal sex top and he only did fisting once but that was because the guy he was dating/in a relationship with wanted it done and he said how it was hot when his hole gaped and my friend cut/trimmed and filed his nails, used gloves and lube and just put only his hand in not his whole arm like some are into, so I could see how it's hot when done to someone.

It's odd I can do all sorts of sex involving power exchange/BDSM to men and women but I find rimming/being rimmed to be NASTY.

I have no idea how many bisexual and gay men PNP or do what I wrote about. The OP asked about using K during sex and I've met gay and bisexual men online who are into it.

I can see how bareback sex with one partner who you're completely monogamous with him/her is hot but I've never done that with any men or women since I have a hard time trusting people sexually since I've had people lie in the past to me.

Like you wrote I do know lots of bisexual and gay men who watch bareback porn just on DVD or on Xtube or fantasize about it but they don't actually have it.

I'm friends with gay and bisexual men who've been having sex with men for over 20 years and they've never done bareback sex with anyone since it's dangerous.

But pretty much everyone I know except for myself and the bisexual and gay men I described above has barebacked.

Some will do it with the current boyfriend or whatever guy of the moment they're dating after just 1 test where they think this means that the person is really neg but I'm sure you know just why that's not always true, their friends that they sleep with, and sometimes in the heat of the moment with tricks.

Anyway if you want we can talk about this off site or in another thread?
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Ketamine seems to be quite popular on the fisting scene, although I've never done it myself - (I love being fisted). I have noticed that many of the medical reports available on the internet about injuries caused during fisting state that the fistee had taken ketamine.
 
ketamine is definatly not a party drug and theres no way youre going to pull any girl when your spackered up on ketamine.

However if theres a big group of mates all on it then it is QUALITEEEEEEE. Literally lovely happy funny messed up times looking around at everyone just dribbling, pulling mad faces, doing crazy ass sh1t with their hands/body and generally acting all retarded! VERY GOOD TIMES in a social situation with friends who all happen to be k'd right up. :)
 
Probably a bit messy for a club, but perfect for afterparties, especially if other serotonergic hallucinogens are available. Ketamine goes wonderfully well with aMT, DOC, 2C-P, (would love to try with LSD or Psilocybin, I think that would be something truely exceptional) and I find taking Ketamine with weed destroys the anxiogenic effects I get from weed (I like the psychedelic aspects of weed, but always comes with a massive amount of anxiety - K cancels this, as well as boosting the other psychedelic effects).

I do find Ketamine on its own a bit boring and cold, but can be insanely euphoric - almost on a par with MDMA on occasions.

Ketamine at very low doses looks to be a fairly putative antidepressant, as my current experiment is beginning to show me...
 
ket can be an amazing party drug,

the main reason is the energy it can give you, I've been coming down off mdma in clubs and have no desire to do anything like dancing but then a line of k resets how I was feeling and replaces it with a warm buzz, sort of drunk/trippy perspective and unlimited energy for raving
 
Ketamine + sex = melting into the other person and becoming one with them.

But as for being a party drug, I agree too, it really isn't. I mean, I'd use a bump or something to boost a stimulant high, but I'd never do more than a tiny bump. Ketamine is best suited for laying in bed at home, comfortable, with music and a bottle of water, a high dose, and an hour of free time to expand your mind and travel to distance universes! :D
 
^ Really ,
I lose all sexual interest when i do ket,

But thats probably because i think that ket makes you feel like a young child again,
and sex isnt what i should be doing at that age!
 
I haven't tried K too much, but I had some amazing sex with my gf last time we did it. That hair pulling, ass slapping, screaming orgasm sort of dirty monkey sex :D Although we did combine it with alcohol, and alcohol does increase your sex drive. It was nice because I could last a lot longer & give my girl a better finish. A lot of people seem to fear monger K + alcohol, but it's a truly awesome combo if you do it right. You just have to drink one or two shots and then take tiny, tiny bumps of k. I also tried DXM with K. It was a medicinal dose of DXM, but holy fuck did it potentiate the K. It caused my first K hole....fuckin' weird stuff. I more prefer K in low doses I think.

Can't wait to try it with MDMA!


Also, another weird thing...the first time I ever tried K it was fantastic, it even had some visuals to go along with it. All the rest of the time I've tried it, it's been similar but much lacking in the pscyhedelia department. I wonder if I got the racemic crystals the first time and ever since I've been getting the S isomer.
 
I think you're probably right Cryptix. I always forget which isomer is which, but it was so blatantly obvious when one day I had the more "psychedelic" of the two, as me and a friend did just a single line each and were left thinking we were aliens blasting off into space. Crazy stuff.
 
forbiddenlife5 said:
So i've done ketamine once, and i did one large line equivalent to 6 bumps, and it was alooot for a first timer, but my definition of being fucked up is alot more than most people, because their were people with me who did two bumps, not even a line, and were talking about how messed up they were, anyways back to my question, if ketamine can make people go to into a "k hole" in which most people claim they can't move, and have hallucinations etc, how is it suppose to be a party drug if most of the time your so messed up, the last thing you can do is dance or even party at that matter? also i'm gay and in the gay community ketamine is real popular with sex, i also don't get that either. When i did the ketamine i experienced what most people say they experience, extreme dissassociation, pretty anti-social, anasthesia, total numbness in my body, the last thing i could see myself doing when i was on it, was partying at a club or anywhere, and having sex, can someone please expain to me.
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ketamine is a raving drug coz you get into a trance state with the music , you can feel the music flowing through your body... as for the sex on ket, i've done it a couple of times and its just plain weird
 
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