Hawaiian Baby W seed question

[Desert-Mirage]

10 appear in front of me... someone is thinking about taking 3 (using cold water extraction method rather than ethanol)...anyone with experience and some words of wisdom on this subject?

"i value reason and abandon madness."

NSFW:

-desert mirage

 

[HeavilySedated]

Three seeds is nothing, you'll probably observe no effects at all - but you should still try it for the first time, to see if you even find all the nausea that comes with it worthwhile. If it's good, you can try something between 5-6 seeds the next time and see what that does to you.

Overall I wouldn't recommend spending too much time on LSA, you might find it very interesting, but it's no where near the real deal.

 

[sekio]

As with any natural product the amount of alkaloids is highly variable in HBWR. There's a pparently at least one high-alkaloid variety that would get you pretty good with 3 or 4 seeds.

 

[e1evene1even]

Three seeds is nothing, you'll probably observe no effects at all

This is entirely incorrect. The potency of HBWR varies greatly depending on the country of origin. Three HWBR from Madagascar would be a +++ for most people.

The easiest way to consume them is to fully scrape the outside of the seed until its a light-skin/peanut color, chew them up very well, and swallow.

Soaking the scraped and ground seeds in a small amount of wine for 30min-2hrs is also effective.

Nausea is common so it's best not to fight it (purge if you need to).

In my experience the dose/response curve for HBWR is not linear so increase the dose slowly on subsequent trials rather than doubling up as that can easily lead to being way higher than you want to be. LSA has been known to give psychedelic ass-kickings if not treated with respect...

Safe journeying.

 

[HeavilySedated]

This is entirely incorrect. The potency of HBWR varies greatly depending on the country of origin. Three HWBR from Madagascar would be a +++ for most people.

The easiest way to consume them is to fully scrape the outside of the seed until its a light-skin/peanut color, chew them up very well, and swallow.

Soaking the scraped and ground seeds in a small amount of wine for 30min-2hrs is also effective.

Nausea is common so it's best not to fight it (purge if you need to).

In my experience the dose/response curve for HBWR is not linear so increase the dose slowly on subsequent trials rather than doubling up as that can easily lead to being way higher than you want to be. LSA has been known to give psychedelic ass-kickings if not treated with respect...

Safe journeying.

Yeah, I know about that, but the common stuff you get from
ethnobotanical sites is usually not very potent. I guess I shouldn't go around making statements like that with out specifying my angle first. My bad.

 

[Desert-Mirage]

ill just burn some FUNK while on them.... defeat nausea at the source!!

knowledge is power people. Reason with charisma

 

[anonymiss]

try chewing up 12 and swallowing

i find taking it with some nutty candy helps downing them

also be sure to scrape off the fur first

and trust me youll be in for an intense psychedelic experience

with intense moving patterns and everything

just expect to be bed ridden and a little sleepy

i felt i had a death and rebirth experience

noticeable euphoria and everything

but you will have a body load


it really does feel like natural lsd

the patterns are more native american rather than spacey like acid

 

[pharmakos]

i always just chew and swallow my HBWR seeds. especially if the person is just taking 3 seeds, chewing and swallowing should be okay... i doubt 3 seeds would cause all that much nausea.

 

[alantis360]

10 appear in front of me... someone is thinking about taking 3 (using cold water extraction method rather than ethanol)...anyone with experience and some words of wisdom on this subject?

"i value reason and abandon madness."

NSFW:

-desert mirage

i have done water extract and sublingual and still found just eating them to be the most effective. Barely got cramps and never puked when I did them. Water extraction never worked. Sublingual did work but you have to use double the amount.

 

[slimvictor]

Three seeds is nothing, you'll probably observe no effects at all - but you should still try it for the first time, to see if you even find all the nausea that comes with it worthwhile. If it's good, you can try something between 5-6 seeds the next time and see what that does to you.

Overall I wouldn't recommend spending too much time on LSA, you might find it very interesting, but it's no where near the real deal.

Everything this person told you is highly questionable.
I wouldn't trust it at all.

You already heard the story about the dosage. Can you imagine if you decided to take 5-6 seeds this time, listing to him/her, and you had the strong ones? You might be really, really surprised.

As for "it's nowhere near the real deal", that is clearly spoken by someone without enough experience.
If you take the right amount, you can flyyyyyyyy, just as high and far as on on a high dose of LSD.
I have nearly 25 years experience with psychedelics. I have done LSD more than 50 times, and HBWR at least a dozen times, including a few of the strong experiences that are equal to strong trips on LSD. Trust me on this one.

Finally, I used to take the seeds ground up, and often experienced nausea or other unpleasant physical symptoms.
But with a water extraction, I had no nausea or other unpleasantness at all.
I highly recommend doing such an extraction.

Read up on some experiences on Erowid, and you will see that people generally get really bad nausea, which can be enough to ruin half their trip or more, but with a water extraction there is generally little or no nausea.

Good trippin'!

 

[slimvictor]

Alantis, I wonder how you did your water extraction?
Did you wait long enough, and shake the jar enough?
If not, it won't work.
Takes around 6-8 hours, with vigorous shaking for 5 minutes every hour, in my experience.
(I have only done it this way, and it has worked every time.)

 

[Desert-Mirage]

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dude GTFO of my thread....this is about LSA not LSD ...

so from what ive gathered here i should:
0. fuck cold water extraction and defiantly fuck ethanol extraction (crazy people in this world)
1. eat 4 seeds without shell and fungi
2. prepare for nausea
3. trip my nuts off


WTF I just got my order in the mail and they completly got it wrong....seriously how hard could a job where u just mail legal herbs to people be?......fucking A!!!!!

 

[HeavilySedated]

Everything this person told you is highly questionable.
I wouldn't trust it at all.

You already heard the story about the dosage. Can you imagine if you decided to take 5-6 seeds this time, listing to him/her, and you had the strong ones? You might be really, really surprised.

As for "it's nowhere near the real deal", that is clearly spoken by someone without enough experience.
If you take the right amount, you can flyyyyyyyy, just as high and far as on on a high dose of LSD.
I have nearly 25 years experience with psychedelics. I have done LSD more than 50 times, and HBWR at least a dozen times, including a few of the strong experiences that are equal to strong trips on LSD. Trust me on this one.

Finally, I used to take the seeds ground up, and often experienced nausea or other unpleasant physical symptoms.
But with a water extraction, I had no nausea or other unpleasantness at all.
I highly recommend doing such an extraction.

Read up on some experiences on Erowid, and you will see that people generally get really bad nausea, which can be enough to ruin half their trip or more, but with a water extraction there is generally little or no nausea.

Good trippin'!

Thank you for the rep brother.
First of all, according to erowid, up to four seeds orally gives you a threshold experience. 3-6 seeds is a 'light' experience. Doing a water extraction on such an amount is next to nothing according to any report I know of. Now I don't have any information on the so-called Madagascar variety, but all I know is that none of my US vendors carry it. The whole thing is probably just an marketing technique. What determines the quality of the seed is not the country it came from, but rather the growing environment and natural differences between each seed.
It was just hastiness on my part to assume that this is what the guy has. Other than that, my information was 100% accurate.

Obviously it might differ between people, but the LSA experience is generally more sedating, quite painful, lacks intricate visuals, and gives off a generous amount of mindfuck. Some people like it, some hate it, but most don't care for it at all.

I don't care how many years of experience you have under your belt, LSA is not as good nor even close to LSD. It's cool if you enjoy it, but you'll find very little people who agree on that. LSD is such a wonderful drug because it provides a great balance between simulation, euphoria, creativity and sensory enhancement. LSA will always come second on all these aspects.

 

[Desert-Mirage]

Thank you for the rep brother.
First of all, according to erowid, up to four seeds orally gives you a threshold experience. 3-6 seeds is a 'light' experience. Doing a water extraction on such an amount is next to nothing according to any report I know of. Now I don't have any information on the so-called Madagascar variety, but all I know is that none of my US vendors carry it. The whole thing is probably just an marketing technique. What determines the quality of the seed is not the country it came from, but rather the growing environment and natural differences between each seed.
It was just hastiness on my part to assume that this is what the guy has. Other than that, my information was 100% accurate.

Obviously it might differ between people, but the LSA experience is generally more sedating, quite painful, lacks intricate visuals, and gives off a generous amount of mindfuck. Some people like it, some hate it, but most don't care for it at all.

I don't care how many years of experience you have under your belt, LSA is not as good nor even close to LSD. It's cool if you enjoy it, but you'll find very little people who agree on that. LSD is such a wonderful drug because it provides a great balance between simulation, euphoria, creativity and sensory enhancement. LSA will always come second on all these aspects.

quite insightful. My inner soul feels overwhelmed with compassion...I shouldn't delve too deeply into this.....

thankfully "ae" has good customer support and I got my shit re-ordered and I can keep the wrong stuff too

"pardon my poshness" - desert-mirage

 

[PROZ4C]

I don't care how many years of experience you have under your belt, LSA is not as good nor even close to LSD. It's cool if you enjoy it, but you'll find very little people who agree on that. LSD is such a wonderful drug because it provides a great balance between simulation, euphoria, creativity and sensory enhancement. LSA will always come second on all these aspects.

Not really

LSD is my favorite drug but LSA kicks its ass in terms of euphoria, its down right excessive and unrelenting waves of it for hours.

Not saying LSA is funner though, but it is a good time none the less.

 

[jacky09ftw]

Tried these seeds once before and was left the next day with a headache for over 24 hours wasnt nice at all. Never again

 

[Big)Sky]

Seems like the effects vary on these. I ordered about 100 seeds a while back and still have yet to indulge. I have been thinking more about it and i think im going to try it out. If i get sick i guess ill just lay in my yard and have way with the earth.

My seeds are Ghana Strain if that means anything?

 

[Desert-Mirage]

Seems like the effects vary on these. I ordered about 100 seeds a while back and still have yet to indulge. I have been thinking more about it and i think im going to try it out. If i get sick i guess ill just lay in my yard and have way with the earth.

My seeds are Ghana Strain if that means anything?

mine are Hawaiian..but im sure they are very similar in chemical makeup

 

[Desert-Mirage]

any other suggestions?

 

[nearjat]

I don't care how many years of experience you have under your belt, LSA is not as good nor even close to LSD. It's cool if you enjoy it, but you'll find very little people who agree on that. LSD is such a wonderful drug because it provides a great balance between simulation, euphoria, creativity and sensory enhancement. LSA will always come second on all these aspects.

Totally not in my experience, and many others. I've taken HBWR once at a pretty damn high dose (15 seeds) and it blew most of my other trips out of the water. Only rivaled by my first ever trip, which was on LSD.