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Opioids Opana Questions

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Corey9430

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Alright guys, I have a few questions for some of you wiser guys. Hopefully you can give me a hand. I originally few into opiates by starting off with OC 8os, it was the first painkiller i'd ever done and i feel in love, i got em' really cheap and they we endless in quantity. I haven't done any killer since the d-day, tried H but didn't like it and never got into it.

1) Are these able to be Iv'd ? I don't personally do it, but i've been asked this and i'd like to know for knowledge sake.

2) I've heard a lot of different things in terms of mg per mg comparison of Opana (brand name, idk if there are generics or not) and brand name Oxycontin. I'd like to know what is the real deal, what is the equivalent of 1mg of Opana in Oxycontin.

3) I know at least in peoples heads alot of people felt that the 80s we the strongest of the ocs, what i mean by this is that alot of people i know felt that 4-20 didn't do as well as 1 80, even thought it's the same mgs total and the same brand name drug so in theory it should be equal but alot of people didn't think so. I have access to the 30mg red clay colored Opanas, are these one of the good ones if the same thing is true for opanas as the oc.

4) <snip> no prices

5) Are you able to smokes these on foil like ocs?

6) Is there any tricks to these or anything that i should know?

7) Coating, should it be left on or taken off before shaving?

Thanks you very much for taking time out of your day to read this and help me out, i appreciate it! <3
 
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Hey OP. A lot of this depends on if you have Opana IR or ER.
Opana ER - MEGA THREAD - can't find YOUR thread? It's been merged into this one.

1) Are these able to be Iv'd ? I don't personally do it, but i've been asked this and i'd like to know for knowledge sake.
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You can IV almost anything. The risk of IVing pills is higher than vials of solution designed for it but with proper micron filtering you can minimize the risk. Opana ER will gel up and is more dangerous for injection.

2) I've heard a lot of different things in terms of mg per mg comparison of Opana (brand name, idk if there are generics or not) and brand name Oxycontin. I'd like to know what is the real deal, what is the equivalent of 1mg of Opana in Oxycontin.
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A little bit of a complex question. Opana contains oxymorphone which according to wikipedia is 7 times stronger than oral morphine when taken orally. Oxycodone is listed as 2 times stronger than morphine all still oral. That being said different preparations (instant release/extended release) and method of dosing (IV, nasal, oral, etc.) will influence how high you get.
3) I know at least in peoples heads alot of people felt that the 80s we the strongest of the ocs, what i mean by this is that alot of people i know felt that 4-20 didn't do as well as 1 80, even thought it's the same mgs total and the same brand name drug so in theory it should be equal but alot of people didn't think so. I have access to the 30mg red clay colored Opanas, are these one of the good ones if the same thing is true for opanas as the oc.
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Insofar as they were all IR 20x4 is the same as 80x1 and any differences were placebo. A pill checker as listed in the OD guidelines under identification can be used to find out what you have.

5) Are you able to smokes these on foil like ocs?
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I suppose you are able to however smoking pills is bad for your lungs and greatly reduces the high compared to most other methods of dosing.

6) Is there any tricks to these or anything that i should know?
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If you have the ERs check out the megathread for breaking them.

7) Coating, should it be left on or taken off before shaving?
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Depends what you are doing with them.
 
you can leave on the shavings for the 40s, but i find it VERY hard to get the shavings off of the 30s. I wouldnt smoke these, putting it up your nose will do the trick, one trick - more like advice, it takes about 15 -20 m to kick in so dont do more, its very strong. 10 mG opana = 30 mg OC, with the red ones, i can get thoe too, i chose to get the yellows because the coating on the red cloggs your nose... the yellow ones are fine to put up ur nose..

and dont IV these hahah, IV some dillys if ur gonna do that! but all day Opana FTW!

mod note: Please just edit your post instead of posting again to add something.
 
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Thanks guys, your awesome, i appreciate the help.

One more question can someone post pics of the different ones, so i can tell if it is er, or ir.
 
No, I am pretty sure you are correct Amapola. 5 and 10 IRs only. I did s lot of research to find this out because a neighbour of nine said he could get 15mg Ir.
 
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I figured since it's not been posted so far i figured i'd post it up after finding it, since it's such a nice little chat.
 
Hehehe, yeah those are all the Opana Ers right? The IRs are red 5mg and blue 10mg. If u ever get a IR and a ER at the same time try both in small increments. The yellow 40s are my favorite !!!!! The coating sticks on the red 30s pretty bad!
 
Never seen Opanas but have had a friend try Opana & he said he was floored snorting half a 20mg & his tolerance is about 100mg of Oxy snorted a day.
 
Be careful whatever you do, Opana is very potent, it's not too be played around with. Unless you know how to convert the potency, I wouldn't recommed using them.
 
To understand Opana's strength more you have to look at it like this:

Once in the bloodstream, 1mg Opana = 20mg oxycodone.

That is, 1mg Opana (in the blood) = 20mg oxycodone (in the blood)

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This is because 1mg Opana (oral) = 2mg oxycodone (oral) --- The Opana website has this info somewhere

Since the bioavailability of Opana taken orally is 10%, and assuming the oral bio. avail. of oxycodone is 100% (the actual BA is ~90) then,

.1mg Opana = 2mg oxycodone,

Thus 1mg Opana = 20mg oxycodone.

You see this is very potent stuff so be careful. And when snorting the ERs, it might take a while to take effect so wait like 20-30 minutes before you re dose to be sure you don't overdue it and get sick... plus too much Opana will give you a wicked headache.
 
This thread is about Opana which is oxymorphone. OPs usually refer to the new OxyCotin formulation which is oxycodone but stamped with an OP instead of an OC.

I'm not sure what you are asking and it can probably be found with a simple google or drugs.com search.
 
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To understand Opana's strength more you have to look at it like this:

Once in the bloodstream, 1mg Opana = 20mg oxycodone.

That is, 1mg Opana (in the blood) = 20mg oxycodone (in the blood)

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This is because 1mg Opana (oral) = 2mg oxycodone (oral) --- The Opana website has this info somewhere

Since the bioavailability of Opana taken orally is 10%, and assuming the oral bio. avail. of oxycodone is 100% (the actual BA is ~90) then,

.1mg Opana = 2mg oxycodone,

Thus 1mg Opana = 20mg oxycodone.

You see this is very potent stuff so be careful. And when snorting the ERs, it might take a while to take effect so wait like 20-30 minutes before you re dose to be sure you don't overdue it and get sick... plus too much Opana will give you a wicked headache.
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Where are your sources?? This is not correct. 1 mg OM IV/IM/SC = 10mg morphine IV. And we know that oxycodone in 1.5x to 2x the strength of morphine.

.1 mg oxymorphone does not equal 20mg oxycodone.
.1mg is also known as saying 1mg, since there is a 10% oral bioavailability of Oxymorphone. So, 1mg oxymorphone ORAL, or .1 mg oxymorphone IV = 2mg oxycodone oral.

If .1 OM IV were equal to 20mg oxycodone, then your theory suggests 1mg of OM equals 200mg oxycodone, which is extremely false. I guess you meant to say 1mg IV equals 20mg oxycodone, which is the correct answer.
 
I misread Etard's as .1mg IV = 20mg oxycodone. and Not 1mg IV om = 20mg oxycodone.

Also, you are referring to just IV/SC/IM ? Oxycodone is stronger orally, rectally, and via insufflation whereas it is at least 1.5-2x stronger.
 
^Yeah sure. I just think it is more proper to say that morphine is stronger than oxycodone. Yes oxycodone has a better bioavailability by certain ROAs and can therefor get a relatively larger amount into your blood stream, but its receptor affinity doesn't change. There is nothing wrong with saying "oxycodone is stronger than morphine when taken orally/rectally/nasally" though I guess. So long as rectal pH levels are normal and there is no chitosan in the nose.
 
Oh and I assume you are going to insufflate the Opana ER because orally it is useless and you cant IV them...

So to put the dose comparison with snorting:

The intranasal bioavailability of oxymorphone is 40%. Lets just assume 50%.

1mg insufflated Opana = .5mg IV Opana

So, (1mg IV Opana) x (2) = 20mg oral oxycodone

2mg insufflated Opana = 20mg oxycodone

1mg insufflated Opana = 10mg oral oxycodone
 
1mg insufflated Opana = 10mg oral oxycodone
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You have to be more careful using this equation as it is comparing different routes of administration.

Oral administration is more gradual over time while nasal will likely result in a faster and higher peak. In other words the 1/10th mass equivalent area under the curve BA might be correct, but the peak concentration of drug levels and therefore effects could still be much higher snorting.
 
There's a lot going on here, so I don't know if this is relevant to the discussion, but when switching from one opioid to another, you can't just use the cut and dry conversions you find in a table to figure out exactly how much of one opioid you can take based on your tolerance to another. While cross tolerance does exist, it's not always exactly that. There is such thing as "incomplete cross tolerance", so while you will have tolerance to that new opiate, you have to factor in the "incomplete cross tolerance" factor...which usually means that you first find what the equivalent dose of opana is to oxycodone, and the usual clinical course of action is to take the Opana and decrease the equivalent dose to oxycodone by 50% to make up for the incomplete cross tolerance. This is a good site to find opioid equivalences and allows you to factor in the incomplete cross tolerance (usually between 25% - 75% ).
 
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