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Using marijuana as a tool to quit harder drugs

lol inexperienced with benzos. ive done a dozen different kinds [including rohypnol for fucks sake] from all over the world over 10 years, taken huge amounts, od'd on thme once and slept 40 hours. stop being a bunch of fucking benzo junkies, okay, your guys's zealousness about benzos has itself convinced me they are. so be happy...relax. sheesh!
 
ControlDenied said:
benzos arent hard drugs

its like saying aspirin is a hard drug because you can OD on it.
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They might not be "hard" based on what you personally consider "hard" drugs to be but I've known people who were addicted to benzos and had seizures during withdrawals, or they just used benzos recreationally and wound up blacking out for days from taking too many by accident or on purpose.
 
i consider hard drugs drugs that feel so fucking good you want to do them for the rest of your life [while you're high at least]. Benzos definitely do not fit this category for me. They just deaded my mind, in a dry drunk way, relaxing me. They're not even "proper" sedatives in that sense; alcohol and ketamine are more sedative I think; they're more like "numbers" or "sleeper" drugs.
 
When I feel comfortable I will begin to taper the pot use again. This was actually one of the substances I had little problems stopping (12 years being my longest time away). However being in MI high quality is now everywhere, which wasn't the case last time I abstained.
 
Take benzos for three years. Then stop. After, lets discuss how you feel about them.

I use weed all the time to crush larger and stronger urges, I find it helps well.
 
ControlDenied said:
benzos arent hard drugs

its like saying aspirin is a hard drug because you can OD on it.
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What makes a drug a hard drug?
Lol cocaine? cocaine is way softer of a drug than benzos. And your reasoning and logic is because cocaine is more euphoric than benzos, that it must be harder lol.

Benzos have got probably one of the most harshest withdrawal syndromes known to man, and can be directly fatal to the addict. And you're here comparing cocaine to benzos? From standpoint of what addiction is most "hardest", benzo addiction is many times more serious, medically serious, not just some jonessing and insomnia, medically fucking dangerous, compared to cocaine addiction.


Also dude, your definition of what constitutes a hard drug is pretty stupid lol. Hard drugs in comparison to soft drugs are much more addictive and espcially more harmful.
 
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I had to edit/UA a couple of posts. Play nice please, this is CD and we like to be chilled and friendly. Well, you might not like it, but it's my way or the highway. I don't like giving out warnings or infractions, so no more flaming please.
 
ControlDenied said:
i consider hard drugs drugs that feel so fucking good you want to do them for the rest of your life [while you're high at least]. Benzos definitely do not fit this category for me. They just deaded my mind, in a dry drunk way, relaxing me. They're not even "proper" sedatives in that sense; alcohol and ketamine are more sedative I think; they're more like "numbers" or "sleeper" drugs.
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okay so, what you're saying is that benzos aren't hard drugs because they are not addictive to you, right? I'm sure you knew this from your "10 years of use," but benzos are one of the few drugs that can kill you during withdrawals.

You're acting like your statements are factual--written in stone. Unfortunately, all those statements are colored with self experience and personal preference, rather than scientific findings. It's like someone trying to convince me to be religious, because they personally enjoy it and find it enlightening; it means absolutely nothing because its backed by *nothing.*
 
ControlDenied said:
lol inexperienced with benzos. ive done a dozen different kinds [including rohypnol for fucks sake] from all over the world over 10 years, taken huge amounts, od'd on thme once and slept 40 hours. stop being a bunch of fucking benzo junkies, okay, your guys's zealousness about benzos has itself convinced me they are. so be happy...relax. sheesh!
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You may have experimented with benzos for 10 years but you never relied on them so you can not relate. I mean everyone did the rufies when the old school 4 way sheilas used to float through in the pop outs, hell I took 3 or 4 a day, drank golden grain and shot up methaphetamine for about 6 months one summer. Ended up chasing people around town with a pistol.

Like I said work your way up to about 25mg of xanax a day for a good 6 months at least and come back and tell me how soft those benzos are. Tell me about not breathing and the fucking room closing in and the night terrors and sweats and what may or may not have been a seziure as you come to on the ground alone in your driveway with that weird somethings wrong feeling.
 
no. Why did you start using harder drugs in the first place? Thats the only route to quitting. You have to make changes but thats only once you know what the problem is that needs to be changed. Smoking weed won't help you do this.
 
exactly, at best it leads you back to square one

i think the point is, that it CAN help with opiate addiction et al., not that its a cure or anything. its safer than methadone at least.
 
im doing it now for oxymorphone. Day 4 clean of a 40-100mg/daily nasal 8 habit.

it helps, but so do icyhots. im not sure which I'd choose if I have to but it really does help at least.
 
Interesting to hear the different replies. GL with the opana kick I heard they can be brutal. Never tried icyhot but somas have been helpful for me in a similar manner.

I do know its not a permanent fix but it sure as heck helps with the symptoms. Its funny just a puff or two and I have no desire or urges for anything else. However with our legal alcohol , a drink or two and it kills all my willpower. Does alcohol do that to anyone else? I heard someone state marijuana did that to them but with a few drinks in me and I'm convinced I can handle just one more time and we all know where that leads.
 
Same with me exactly, I used to be addicted to meth and I quit everything and it just made it super hard to stay clean. However I just went to smoking weed and nothing else and I feel way better and don't crave anymore
 
yeh i cant drink if im trying to stay off opiates because it sends me cravings straight into high orbit.

weed helps, but only for like an hour or so, and you cant really smoke like 5+ joints a day for very long. specially cuz it can cause paranoia and anxiety and depression [not to mention awful lethargy, the main reason i cant smoke much anymore] when over-used. add to that the pretty high costs of smoking that much, and you might end up feeling like you might as well go back to hard drug. so i'd say unless you have a free or very low-price source of pot, and dont mind having so little motivation that eating meals and taking shits somerimes seem like herculean tasks, this isnt really a good long-term solution.
 
MrFaust said:
getting high is getting high if youre using it as a crutch its unhealthy no matter what substance it is.
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So to you smoking meth is eating pot brownies is drinking coffee is smoking heroin.

None of those things may be "healthy", but they sure as hell ain't in the same category IMO.
 
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ControlDenied said:
thats how it is for me.

i think the question of this thread applies to using weed to stay off coke or opiates or something...benzos are not a hard drug, they are much weaker and less euphoric than alcohol
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My cousins best friend died from non-epileptic convulsions when he attempted to quit his massive benzo habit . :(:( I would STRONGLY recommend to anyone quitting a moderately high to severe benzo habit to accept hospitalization/or rehab . If you cannot afford, make sure you have a good taper plan to ween yourself.

To each their own, but Benzodiazepines are hard drugs in my book . One would be surprised at the addiction potential of them as well if used heavily for 1-4 weeks depending on the user. sleep disturbances, anxiety, muscle spasms, aches, very rapid heartbeat, high BP, RESTLESS LEGS GRRR, heavy lethargy and fatigue, and some .
 
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Chainer said:
im doing it now for oxymorphone. Day 4 clean of a 40-100mg/daily nasal 8 habit.

it helps, but so do icyhots. im not sure which I'd choose if I have to but it really does help at least.
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5 months clean!

Thanks whoever bumped this. I stopped keeping count at 3 months. Weed keeps me sane, and a lack of weed doesn't make me puke my guts up or want to kill myself... so... happy medium.

All said and done, cannabis was a great tool to help with nausia and apitite, the real benefits came after the first week of serious withdrawal (104-105 temp, nothing staying down, etc) - cannabis couldn't do much about that. As the w/ds got less intense weed helped more and more.
 
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