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Help, still "outta it" after MDMA

Are you serious about the supplments? I've been taking neuroreplete which has a ton of 5htp, l tyrosine and other amino acids.. I don't want to have an arguement persay, but have you got any sources to back it up? I'm guessing long term they could downregulate your receptors.. As for SJW, I believe that's ok to cycle, it's been shown to sensitize and upregulate your 5ht1a and 5ht2a receptors..

Yeah I tried SSRIs, they helped me out at first, I was bed wridden, but after I got up and going and started doing a routine I stopes taking them, I song like alot of SSRI stories I hear..

+1 sunlight or even tanning at that. I found that during the summer time I'd be extremely happy, and rolls would be off the chain.

severely etarded said:
I would stop all supplements and start eating veggies:

carrots, onions, dark leafy greens, squash, potatoes, & beans are the ones I like to eat. I eat them every chance I get. I recover pretty fast, usually within a month of a heavy session.

Supplements like tyrosine, 5htp, st john's wort - are fine to replenish your brain the next day, and following day. But you want to stop them after the second day. They may help short-term, but long term they mess with your receptors, similar to the way drugs do.

GET OUT IN THE SUN!!!

I cannot tell you how great I roll now that I try to make it a habit to go out in the sun daily. Sometimes your pupils are sensitive, but eventually they adjust, and it just seems to make everything better.

Sunlight stimulates natural serotonin production in your brain, so you don't need to mess up your SERTS with 5htp when you got a sunrise everyday.
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somedud said:
Are you serious about the supplments? I've been taking neuroreplete which has a ton of 5htp, l tyrosine and other amino acids.. I don't want to have an arguement persay, but have you got any sources to back it up? I'm guessing long term they could downregulate your receptors.. As for SJW, I believe that's ok to cycle, it's been shown to sensitize and upregulate your 5ht1a and 5ht2a receptors..
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Supplements are fine, I find them unnecessary though when living a healthy lifestyle. Exercise, nutrient rich diet, sunlight. Vitamins & amino acids aren't necessary IMO if you eat nutrient rich food. Probably doesn't really hurt much, but I wouldn't overdo them. You probably need them more if your diet is poor though.

5HTP IMO/IME is most useful on the days after rolling. Over time it can downregulate the SERTS but I read it takes like 5+ days to start happening.
 
I have a decent diet not the greatest. Fuck I've been taking neuroreplete for over s month, and it has .9 g's of 5HTP daily.. =/ maybe I should quit.
 
hey casey im going through pretty much the exact same thing i done it my first time about 9 days ago and done about 500 - 600mg and i am still feeling weird like i cant concentrate properly but i've defonately felt like i have been improving over the last few days i think alot of it is because i keep thinking about it and worrying that im going to carry on feeling like this which in turn makes me feel this way i went to the doctors on like day 7 and she said that there is no way i would have done any permenant damage through doing it just the once so that helped stop me worrying as much have you been gradually getting better or just staying in the same dazed state
 
ThATS WHAT DRUGS DO TO PEOPLE. They do damage to your brain which is the part of your body that controls your memory and concentration... Hopefully you just need to give it time to repair itself... Good Luck and that should be a lesson and hopefully you learned from it and wont make the same mistake you did again... cause not only can you damage ur brain but next time you could end up dying... and not cause of OD ... E can do many things to kill you .... like dehydration and many other thingssss
 
caseyc4683 said:
Yeah, I actually decoded to stop the 5-Htp yesterday for that reason. Also another thing, I e been having like really vivid dreams at night. This whole thing is kinda like constantly having a few drinks in me but never really being able to sober up.
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The vivid dreams could well be the 5-HTP. I think I am pretty sensitive to it but I get vivid dreams and restless sleep after taking it. I also can feel a bit floaty and spaced out the day after.

One time after eating a load of goose at christmas I had really weird dreams and it was only at breakfast that it was the tryptophan in the goose. My girfriends mum sort of dosed me :)
 
jsurf11 said:
ThATS WHAT [too much] DRUGS DO TO PEOPLE. [too much drugs] does damage to your brain which is the part of your body that controls your memory and concentration... Hopefully you just need to give it time to repair itself... Good Luck and that should be a lesson and hopefully you learned from it and wont make the same mistake you did again... cause not only can you damage ur brain but next time you could end up dying... and not cause of OD ... [too much] E can do many things to kill you .... like dehydration and many other thingssss
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yea
 
^^ that's such a grossly over estimated statement it's not even funny =\

But true, don't fuck with your Chem so hardcorely, btw you can't OD on MDMA there bud..
 
somedud said:
^^ that's such a grossly over estimated statement it's not even funny =\

But true, don't fuck with your Chem so hardcorely, btw you can't OD on MDMA there bud..
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agree, but actually you can, you have to be an oxymoron to do it, or wanting to kill your self....
 
Yeah next time im gunna wear a rubber suit, pop a g wrap my neck in glow sticks and see how many jumping jacks I can do in a steam room while I slam redbulls ^_^
 
sammycook777 said:
hey casey im going through pretty much the exact same thing i done it my first time about 9 days ago and done about 500 - 600mg and i am still feeling weird like i cant concentrate properly but i've defonately felt like i have been improving over the last few days i think alot of it is because i keep thinking about it and worrying that im going to carry on feeling like this which in turn makes me feel this way i went to the doctors on like day 7 and she said that there is no way i would have done any permenant damage through doing it just the once so that helped stop me worrying as much have you been gradually getting better or just staying in the same dazed state
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Hey Sammy, yeah its def a pretty shitty feeling, but glad to hear your improving. I stopped taking 5-htp and I actually think stopping helped a bit. Id be very interested to hear about your progress and if you do go to the Dr.s again what they might say (only I don't have health insurance and Dr.s can be expensive) Anyways take care and hope you feel better soon.
 
oh also, didn't see the last part of your reply, I want to say I think I'm getting better however I'm not totally sure if I'm getting better or getting used to it. hopefully the first.
 
im pretty convinced im in a state of like derealization although i dont fel too bad and am only showing slight symptoms of it i have got this static vision that soesnt seem to be going away and its alot worse in the dark and this too is a symtom from the derealization and where i think about it so much im kind of bringing it on i,ve found when i tell myself i dont give a fuck and im not bothered and let it go and do things to distract myself it almost completely goes im going to give it until the end of next week and then go to the doctors and get checked out but i do not want to be going down the anti depressant route and all that shit
 
I don't know what your financial situation is but if you can afford $30 I would definitely look into buying a bottle of Cellfood. They also have a variety that comes with SAMe that I've also tried. I've used it while coming down from a roll and it brings you back up for a little while.

Piracetam has been another godsend for MDMA abuse. 5htp I don't like so much but I eat lots of bananas and yogurt for tryptophan lol
 
sammycook777 said:
im pretty convinced im in a state of like derealization although i dont fel too bad and am only showing slight symptoms of it i have got this static vision that soesnt seem to be going away and its alot worse in the dark and this too is a symtom from the derealization and where i think about it so much im kind of bringing it on i,ve found when i tell myself i dont give a fuck and im not bothered and let it go and do things to distract myself it almost completely goes im going to give it until the end of next week and then go to the doctors and get checked out but i do not want to be going down the anti depressant route and all that shit
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HPPD

It will go away, takes time. Lay off the drugs. Aside from weed maybe.
 
sammycook777 said:
im pretty convinced im in a state of like derealization although i dont fel too bad and am only showing slight symptoms of it i have got this static vision that soesnt seem to be going away and its alot worse in the dark and this too is a symtom from the derealization and where i think about it so much im kind of bringing it on i,ve found when i tell myself i dont give a fuck and im not bothered and let it go and do things to distract myself it almost completely goes im going to give it until the end of next week and then go to the doctors and get checked out but i do not want to be going down the anti depressant route and all that shit
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Yeah from the research I've done as well it seems like derealization for me to. Same here when I try not to think about it it seems better, not 100% though. Also I'm not sure it says that derealization is caused from anxiety but to tell you the truth I don't feel anxious or panicked or anything. Not sure. Ordered some Piracetum, we will see how that goes. Vision is also not a sharp as before.
 
I can relate to you caseyc4683. For me every time I do MDMA I end up doing around 4-500mgs, over the course of say 5 or 6 hours. It's a little ridiculous but I love my MDMA.

Anyways, for me it's mind over matter. After my sessions I always feel drained for about 3-5 days and then it's completely gone. However this last time I did 500mgs and then the next day I did 150mgs and I really felt it. I was probably messed up for a good 2 weeks after that. It took a while but eventually I came back to ground zero and now I am close to 100% recovered.

Just give it some more time, and remember that thinking weird thoughts will lead to more weird thoughts.
 
my anxiety comes and goes but i often find myself thinking what is wrong am i going to be stuck like this which feeds my anxiety

my vision is staticy so i even wondered if i had HPPD but anxiety can cause staticy vision so can derealization and yet hppd can cause derealization and when i think i may have hppd this in turn causes anxiety wich can cause the derealization and vision i find my self in quite the predicament i do find when i relax though symptoms are alot less noticeable such as in the evenings i feel 95% normal it doesn't help that i've got an awful cold at the moment though

are you feeling any better yet ?

keep in touch buddy
 
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