TRENZYME
Bluelighter
at the min ive got access to morph, codiene, dihydro codiene, and kratom dose anyone has any expeinces with combos of these , im ,looking for euphoria more than sedation
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opiate combos with kratom ??
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Captain.Heroin
Bluelight Crew
Basic combo questions belong in Basic Drug Discussion.
TRENZYME
Bluelighter
COOL, im still getting used to the layout of the place
You know - you could try Erowid for lots of reports of combos - experiences of (various). Also, try 'search'ing 'Kratom', and just look through the thread titles in BDD or OD for similar Q's. There are lots like this on here.
In a nutshell - yeah, you could combine them. Being that you are not too familiar with opiates nor do you have a tolerance (...suppose the two go hand in hand) make sure not to take as high a dose of any of them, as when combining you should always take less of each substance.
What sorts of doses (and of what substance - specifically) are you comfortable with taking? Have you taken all of the aforementioned (in your post) substances?
In a nutshell - yeah, you could combine them. Being that you are not too familiar with opiates nor do you have a tolerance (...suppose the two go hand in hand) make sure not to take as high a dose of any of them, as when combining you should always take less of each substance.
What sorts of doses (and of what substance - specifically) are you comfortable with taking? Have you taken all of the aforementioned (in your post) substances?
TRENZYME
Bluelighter
ive read some good reports on erowid but just thats id ask on here as folk seem to be very knowlageble on the topic ,
i suppose i have a mild opiate tolerace im a quite a regular user of codiene in doses upto 360mg and ocassionaly dabble in morphine upto and dihydrocodiene, ive got to say out a high dose of codiene with some good herb is my fave but wondering if lower doses of combos with kratom could be more fun and less harmfull than very high dosages of one
i suppose i have a mild opiate tolerace im a quite a regular user of codiene in doses upto 360mg and ocassionaly dabble in morphine upto and dihydrocodiene, ive got to say out a high dose of codiene with some good herb is my fave but wondering if lower doses of combos with kratom could be more fun and less harmfull than very high dosages of one
ro4eva
Bluelighter
I've been wondering this myself for quite some time now. My concern is that - while there is at least one alkaloid in kratom which acts as a mu-opioid agonist - mixing it with an opiate/opioid might precipitate withdrawal due to receptor binding affinity and displacement of - say - a high dose of a potent opiate/opioid taken daily for whatever reason(s).
NeighborhoodThreat
Bluelight Crew
It's hard to define what is "harmful" in this case, but combining full-agonists with kratom is possible and does (at least in my experience, and other's experiences [see also The Kratom Thread]) work. You will want to reduce your dosage of your full-agonist a bit from what you normally use, dose with the kratom, and then slowly bring your other doses in.
Depending on how you prepare your kratom (tea being the most common and the best method if you ask me), it will hit you pretty quickly, the tea is 15-20 minutes, and within an hour you're peaking, so you will know how much (if any) full-agonists you'll want to add to the combination.
The usual warnings about mixing sedatives and opiates apply to kratom as well. Higher dosages can cause nausea just like higher dosages of regular "traditional" full-agonist opiates can.
Depending on how you prepare your kratom (tea being the most common and the best method if you ask me), it will hit you pretty quickly, the tea is 15-20 minutes, and within an hour you're peaking, so you will know how much (if any) full-agonists you'll want to add to the combination.
The usual warnings about mixing sedatives and opiates apply to kratom as well. Higher dosages can cause nausea just like higher dosages of regular "traditional" full-agonist opiates can.
TRENZYME
Bluelighter
cheers for the imput fellas,
im thinking of trying 2 g of x15 extract with 200mg codiene orally as a starting point, sound reasonable ??
sorry for stupid sounding questions but im pretty new to this game
thanks
im thinking of trying 2 g of x15 extract with 200mg codiene orally as a starting point, sound reasonable ??
sorry for stupid sounding questions but im pretty new to this game
thanks
NeighborhoodThreat
Bluelight Crew
^No worries on the question my friend 
I would start with the extract, wait 20-30, maybe 40 minutes to see how you feel, and then dose the codeine from that point. Combining the kratom and codeine at the same time would make it hard for to tell which drug you're feeling. If you take the kratom and then the codeine after the kratom hits you, you'll get familiar with how kratom effects you first.
I would start with the extract, wait 20-30, maybe 40 minutes to see how you feel, and then dose the codeine from that point. Combining the kratom and codeine at the same time would make it hard for to tell which drug you're feeling. If you take the kratom and then the codeine after the kratom hits you, you'll get familiar with how kratom effects you first.
codiene slave
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This is my first time here........... I may not even know how to get back to this page next tiem to check any responses. Well i been off and on codiene , xanax a laots now. So have lots to share...... ONCE YOU KNOW THE TASTE OF AN OPIATE..... YOU ARE LIKE ME..... FOREVER FIGHTING THE URGE
codiene slave
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When codiene gets ... its sneaks up on you real fast........ and then the withdrawl...horrible naltraxone..........oooof
TRENZYME
Bluelighter
i had to kick a heavy benzo habit and it almost killed me..
RegisteredStoneeer
Bluelighter
Honestly you should just use the codeine by itself and then use the kratom another time. I feel like kratom would just give me some unwanted shakiness and other side effects(common with kratom) with my nice codeine high.
And for reference I'm making kratom tea right now, I don't have any other opiates.
And for reference I'm making kratom tea right now, I don't have any other opiates.
I've done codeine in the 300mg range, nothing, done DHC in the 600mg range, just hard to focus on anything,no real euphoria, tramadol nothing and i've tried different types of ratom and no high, maybe opiates just arent for me, which isn't a bad thing
K'd-OUT-in-AZ
Bluelighter
Those are weak opiates that you mentioned. Doesn't mean opiates aren't for you. Try some hydrocodone or oxycodone.
Its virtually impossable to get hydrocodone where i am, because its not used medically over here. As for the oxy, you canget them here but noone rarely gets them prescribed except for terminal/severe pain, only thing kicking about the streets is DHC, which people tell me isweaer than codeine. Its either dfs or heroin and i don't want a habit which is why i'm scared to try smack
K'd-OUT-in-AZ
Bluelighter
Don't try heroin. It will lead you to a place very similar to hell.
ro4eva
Bluelighter
You are probably part of a very low percentage of the human population who have multiple copies of the CYP2D6 enzyme, thus, being able to convert more codeine to morphine than usual.
K'd-OUT-in-AZ
Bluelighter
I wonder if I do because I've always been sensitive to the effects of opiates. I don't mean the side effects and I can take large doses, I mean just the general euphoria produced from them. I became addicted very quick. Just after finishing a bottle of hydrocodone I knew that I was hooked for life.