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ReddbullJesus

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So a friend of mine has decided that she wants to do ecstasy, and she's never done it before. She's a bit nervous so she decided to come do it at my place, instead of going out to a rave or whatever. I've never done it myself, and due to some medical issues I'm having right now, I won't be partaking. I've been doing the research on it here at bluelight and elsewhere and I feel confident that we can make this a safe and pleasurable experience for her. I'm planning on getting one of those MDMA testing kits and I know to keep her cool and hydrated, but not too hydrated.

Any advice on either safety or just fun stuff to do would be awesome. I've read alot about getting glow sticks, vicks products and what not. She doesn't normally listen to electronic music, but I'm told that onces she's rolling, she'll love it...so I'm in the process of picking up some music she can listen to. I have a 55" HDTV that I can plug my PC into and plan on doing the whole music on winamp with milkdrops visualizer. Black light bulbs are pretty cheap, so I might pick up a few of those too.

Also since its her first time I was gonna have her take half a pill first and then the other half about 30 minutes later. I know some people take more throughout the night. Is it safe for her to take more than one pill since it's her first time? And if so how long into it should she take the second, if at all?

Thanks in advance.
 
it all depends on the person. if shes says shes comfortable with taking another one then let her have another. make sure the pills you got aren't pipes.
 
That shit doesn't show up in tests though does it? So you have to just hope the stuff you're getting is the same as the stuff on those reports?

If so, that sucks.

If that happens is there a way to counteract the effects? Or do you just have to ride it out?
 
If you get some of the funky bad stuff like pipes or so, you can generally take some form of benzos and try to sleep it off.
 
d4rksun said:
If you get some of the funky bad stuff like pipes or so, you can generally take some form of benzos and try to sleep it off.
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Oh thats right, I remember reading that in one of the posts. I'm pretty sure she has xanax, so there's that.

Doesn't drinking acidy stuff like juice help with that too?
 
never start with half a pill. The best roll starts with a decent dose. One pill is sometimes a single dose, but in the USA is usually just a half of a good dose. One good pill in the USA should make a newbie roll balls. A medium dose pill will be ok the first time, but if she only takes a half of a USA pill, it's not going to be great :\ Start with a full pill, wait for it to kick in, and go from there. Nothing wrong with redosing, but if she does redose, the comedown will be horrible. My easiest comedowns have always been with a single dose.
 
dont worry so much on dehydration and heat. let things go as smoothly as possible just have a separate room aka a chill room. if she starts getting out of hand go there and cool off relax then get back to the fun stuff. imo to much worry can hinder the experience. id imagine your worrying alone could be a pain.
unless the roller hasnt drank all day and is jumping all over the place without break they should be ok. but going by your description it sounds like you will be fine in the water ways. generally speaking if high heats isnt an issue water shouldnt be. if youre really worried in that state and dont have a chill room of sorts just go out for a walk or play with a bowl of ice water.


another thought is pre read the rolling tricks thread. trust me its worth reading all the way through bc in between alot of repeats are some great ideas. then just keep it up on your pc and pull some random tricks on her while shes not expecting.

have fun and gl cant wait to hear how it went.
 
severely etarded said:
never start with half a pill. The best roll starts with a decent dose. One pill is sometimes a single dose, but in the USA is usually just a half of a good dose. One good pill in the USA should make a newbie roll balls. A medium dose pill will be ok the first time, but if she only takes a half of a USA pill, it's not going to be great :\ Start with a full pill, wait for it to kick in, and go from there. Nothing wrong with redosing, but if she does redose, the comedown will be horrible. My easiest comedowns have always been with a single dose.
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Well ok so you are experienced and everything severely, but really I can't agree with this advice.
The first roll is always a bit tense. You have no idea how the person is going to react.
But once started the first experience is very special, even with a relatively small dose.
If everything is fine after three quarters of an hour to an hour she can redose without ill effect.
Better be safe than sorry.
On the other hand I'm not sure about the whole proposal here. Part of the fun of rolling is rolling with somebody who is sharing the same super feelings. OP has never rolled so how is he going to cope with a girl rolling for the first time, who might start having loved up feelings for him or who might get into talking and lovely emotional stuff.
I don't this is a very good idea at all, at least not from the girl's point of view.
 
augustaB said:
Well ok so you are experienced and everything severely, but really I can't agree with this advice.
The first roll is always a bit tense. You have no idea how the person is going to react.
But once started the first experience is very special, even with a relatively small dose.
If everything is fine after three quarters of an hour to an hour she can redose without ill effect.
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Starting with a half a pill in the US is a stupid idea. Sorry. Even if the pill is the best of the best that goes around here (~100 mg), a half will BARELY cross the threshold, and will be a complete waste of a roll and serotonin. I only took one pill (very very weak, maybe 50 mg) my first time, and it was pretty dumb. I got mild threshold feeling, a little talkative .. :\

I look back on it and wonder what the next few rolls would have been like if my first one wasn't wasted on weak pills :( First time is the best, better make it the best or you will have a half-assed first time like mine :(

Assuming you get decent USA pills, will definately need one. Even a single pokeball wouldn't OD a newb. They would roll balls off 90 mg though, and have the best experience ever! Starting with 45 mg is just a waste :( It's barely at the threshold. For some reason re-dosing MDMA isn't only not as effective, but also leads to really harsh comedowns, depression, and many times a crack-out feeling the next day.

Better be safe than sorry.
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even a brand new roller will not OD on one single tablet pill in the USA. Sorry :\ This site is all about harm reduction. I carry a moderator title. I would not promote an idea that can even remotely be a bad/dangerous one. Erowid reports "small risk of death; approximately 2 per 100,000 users have extreme negative reactions resulting in death (rare)".
All drugs come with a slight risk of a reaction though. And the proper thing IMO would be to take a full pill and wait a few hours, monitor vitals, temperature, respiration, heart rate, etc.

On the other hand I'm not sure about the whole proposal here. Part of the fun of rolling is rolling with somebody who is sharing the same super feelings. OP has never rolled so how is he going to cope with a girl rolling for the first time, who might start having loved up feelings for him or who might get into talking and lovely emotional stuff.
I don't this is a very good idea at all, at least not from the girl's point of view.
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agreed. Maybe OP should have somebody else present who is also rolling.
 
Slip like two grams of niacin in his/her drink, and when they start to flush tell them it means there in for the ride of their life, oe having some crazy sort of reaction. Just dont lead them on for two long to fuck with their buzz. Have fun with em, I know when I was 15 and started rolling I did..
 
severely etarded said:
Starting with a half a pill in the US is a stupid idea. Sorry. Even if the pill is the best of the best that goes around here (~100 mg), a half will BARELY cross the threshold, and will be a complete waste of a roll and serotonin. I only took one pill (very very weak, maybe 50 mg) my first time, and it was pretty dumb. I got mild threshold feeling, a little talkative .. :\

I look back on it and wonder what the next few rolls would have been like if my first one wasn't wasted on weak pills :( First time is the best, better make it the best or you will have a half-assed first time like mine :(

Assuming you get decent USA pills, will definately need one. Even a single pokeball wouldn't OD a newb. They would roll balls off 90 mg though, and have the best experience ever! Starting with 45 mg is just a waste :( It's barely at the threshold. For some reason re-dosing MDMA isn't only not as effective, but also leads to really harsh comedowns, depression, and many times a crack-out feeling the next day.


even a brand new roller will not OD on one single tablet pill in the USA. Sorry :\ This site is all about harm reduction. I carry a moderator title. I would not promote an idea that can even remotely be a bad/dangerous one. Erowid reports "small risk of death; approximately 2 per 100,000 users have extreme negative reactions resulting in death (rare)".
All drugs come with a slight risk of a reaction though. And the proper thing IMO would be to take a full pill and wait a few hours, monitor vitals, temperature, respiration, heart rate, etc.



agreed. Maybe OP should have somebody else present who is also rolling.
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thanks for the advice. Its still not for sure that I won't be rolling as well, depends on my doctors appointment coming up.
 
So she just told me that her source can get her pure E (I think she meant pure MDMA?)

Although I guess pure MDMA is almost impossible to come by I think?...but I think he means that crystalline shit. Aren't those called Mollies or something like that?
 
ReddbullJesus said:
So she just told me that her source can get her pure E (I think she meant pure MDMA?)

Although I guess pure MDMA is almost impossible to come by I think?...but I think he means that crystalline shit. Aren't those called Mollies or something like that?
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She is talking about molly, which, depending on where you live, is probably cut.
 
Okay, so I've rolled quite a few times and I've got some knowledge to pass on to you to help out your friend :D

1. Don't take half a pill. It's not worth it, just take a full one.

2. Test your pills. Even if it's from a trusted source, you never know what's in them.

3. If you don't like electronic/techno music, just don't listen to it. Sure, it will be fun when your rolling, but you want to know what's even more fun? Music that you actually like. My absolute favorite thing to listen to while rolling is Michael Jackson. Why? Because I LOVE Michael when I'm not rolling. If you really want your friend to have an awesome time with MDMA, play music she really likes. I promise you, she will be grateful.

4. Want to know another thing you can do for your friend with that awesome HDTV you have? I know it sounds strange, but put on a Disney movie. This sounds weird to a lot of people, but if you've ever rolled before you know how MDMA can really make you feel like a child again, and nothing is more awesome than going on an undersea mermaid adventure with Ariel.

5. Have something soft to touch. Personally, my favorite thing to have is my puppy, but she kinda gets scared when I'm rolling sometimes. If you chose to let her play with your cat/dog make sure she knows to be careful, drugs can really freak animals out. If you don't have a pet or don't want to give it to your drugged out friend, give them a stuffed animal or something.

6. Make sure she has something to chew on. A lot of people grind their teeth really bad on MDMA and this will REALLY HURT the next day. Your jaw gets fucked and you often bite your tongue/cheeks. Get a baby binky would be my suggestion, but if not get a balloon or at least gum. If she uses gum, it'll get hard fast, so make sure she changes pieces often.

7. Make sure no one is there that she wouldn't want to be on drugs around. It sounds like a no brainer, but a lot of people roll at their house with their parents around and stuff like that. It's best to just be around close friends who don't mind.

8. Don't talk to her like she's a child (you'll be tempted too, I promise.) Just talk to her like you normally would. It's kinda annoying to have your friend acting weird towards you because your on drugs.

9. Give her plenty of space. She may decide your carpet is awesome and she absolutely needs to roll around on it. Just let her. At the same time though, don't let her do anything too dumb/dangerous.

10. If she's having a bad trip (this could happen even on clean MDMA, it just doesn't work on some people) just be there for her. If she feels like she should sleep, let her try. Whatever feels best for her.

NOTE: A lot of people feel nauseous when coming up on MDMA. If she feels like she needs to puke, or even if she does, don't worry. It's pretty common and it doesn't mean anything bad is happening. Even if she does vomit, she'll probably still roll balls.

Well, now I still feel like I haven't given you enough reading material (LOL) so I'll give you the E-Tards Bible of Rolling Tricks: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=230119

Also, I'll give you my suggestions for music, even though I kinda already mentioned them.

1. Michael Jackson (particularly "Man in the Mirror")

2. Disney (particularly "Under the Sea" from "The Little Mermaid" and "I Can Go The Distance" from "Hercules")

3. Anything and everything your friend likes to listen to.
 
sakura.summers said:
Okay, so I've rolled quite a few times and I've got some knowledge to pass on to you to help out your friend :D

1. Don't take half a pill. It's not worth it, just take a full one.

2. Test your pills. Even if it's from a trusted source, you never know what's in them.

3. If you don't like electronic/techno music, just don't listen to it. Sure, it will be fun when your rolling, but you want to know what's even more fun? Music that you actually like. My absolute favorite thing to listen to while rolling is Michael Jackson. Why? Because I LOVE Michael when I'm not rolling. If you really want your friend to have an awesome time with MDMA, play music she really likes. I promise you, she will be grateful.

4. Want to know another thing you can do for your friend with that awesome HDTV you have? I know it sounds strange, but put on a Disney movie. This sounds weird to a lot of people, but if you've ever rolled before you know how MDMA can really make you feel like a child again, and nothing is more awesome than going on an undersea mermaid adventure with Ariel.

5. Have something soft to touch. Personally, my favorite thing to have is my puppy, but she kinda gets scared when I'm rolling sometimes. If you chose to let her play with your cat/dog make sure she knows to be careful, drugs can really freak animals out. If you don't have a pet or don't want to give it to your drugged out friend, give them a stuffed animal or something.

6. Make sure she has something to chew on. A lot of people grind their teeth really bad on MDMA and this will REALLY HURT the next day. Your jaw gets fucked and you often bite your tongue/cheeks. Get a baby binky would be my suggestion, but if not get a balloon or at least gum. If she uses gum, it'll get hard fast, so make sure she changes pieces often.

7. Make sure no one is there that she wouldn't want to be on drugs around. It sounds like a no brainer, but a lot of people roll at their house with their parents around and stuff like that. It's best to just be around close friends who don't mind.

8. Don't talk to her like she's a child (you'll be tempted too, I promise.) Just talk to her like you normally would. It's kinda annoying to have your friend acting weird towards you because your on drugs.

9. Give her plenty of space. She may decide your carpet is awesome and she absolutely needs to roll around on it. Just let her. At the same time though, don't let her do anything too dumb/dangerous.

10. If she's having a bad trip (this could happen even on clean MDMA, it just doesn't work on some people) just be there for her. If she feels like she should sleep, let her try. Whatever feels best for her.

NOTE: A lot of people feel nauseous when coming up on MDMA. If she feels like she needs to puke, or even if she does, don't worry. It's pretty common and it doesn't mean anything bad is happening. Even if she does vomit, she'll probably still roll balls.

Well, now I still feel like I haven't given you enough reading material (LOL) so I'll give you the E-Tards Bible of Rolling Tricks: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=230119

Also, I'll give you my suggestions for music, even though I kinda already mentioned them.

1. Michael Jackson (particularly "Man in the Mirror")

2. Disney (particularly "Under the Sea" from "The Little Mermaid" and "I Can Go The Distance" from "Hercules")

3. Anything and everything your friend likes to listen to.
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Dude, AWESOME advice! Especially the Disney thing, I didn't even think of that.

All good advice. She said she HATES techno, but I know she loves to dance to R&B and stuff like that.
 
ReddbullJesus said:
Dude, AWESOME advice! Especially the Disney thing, I didn't even think of that.

All good advice. She said she HATES techno, but I know she loves to dance to R&B and stuff like that.
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Most people don't think of the Disney thing, but it's really amazing :D Her brain may explode out of joy 8o in a good way of course. lol.

If she hates techno and electronic music then don't put it on. I know a lot of people who like Lady Gaga while rolling, you could try that. Just play music she likes, and Disney songs :P
 
It sounds like you're being very responsible about it, but don't forget that this is supposed to be a FUN experience. We can all appreciate that you want to make your friend feel safe, but a single good pill is going to make her have a very fun time and won't be overwhelming for 95% of people. I think where people run into problems is when they start worrying.

Things to avoid....
-Don't keep asking her if she's okay. I've seen people freak out because of this. Ask her if she needs anything. If she does she'll tell you.
-If she's your friend, give her a hug. If she's more than that kiss her. It will make her relax and enjoy the time more. I've made out with some ugly ass chicks before, but at the time it was fun as hell.
-Suggest lots of fun things and let her pick. Some days I feel like dancing the whole night and picking up girls, and others I feel like playing Nazi Zombies, watching Fantasia, and playing with my gloves
-Make sure the atmosphere is right. If it's too chaotic it might be stressful which can lead to a panic attack. I had one the first time I rolled, but haven't had one since. It was largely due to a bunch of people asking if I was okay. I really was and then I started to worry what I looked like and if I was dying and didn't know it. In reality, I was just hot and took my shirt off. Nothing more, nothing less.

Make sure you get good stuff, don't take more than 1, but don't take too little or it won't be a memorable first time. Enjoy the night and discover new and exciting things to do. Be safe about it, but make sure it's a fun time.
 
IIRandomHeroII said:
It sounds like you're being very responsible about it, but don't forget that this is supposed to be a FUN experience. We can all appreciate that you want to make your friend feel safe, but a single good pill is going to make her have a very fun time and won't be overwhelming for 95% of people. I think where people run into problems is when they start worrying.

Things to avoid....
-Don't keep asking her if she's okay. I've seen people freak out because of this. Ask her if she needs anything. If she does she'll tell you.
-If she's your friend, give her a hug. If she's more than that kiss her. It will make her relax and enjoy the time more. I've made out with some ugly ass chicks before, but at the time it was fun as hell.
-Suggest lots of fun things and let her pick. Some days I feel like dancing the whole night and picking up girls, and others I feel like playing Nazi Zombies, watching Fantasia, and playing with my gloves
-Make sure the atmosphere is right. If it's too chaotic it might be stressful which can lead to a panic attack. I had one the first time I rolled, but haven't had one since. It was largely due to a bunch of people asking if I was okay. I really was and then I started to worry what I looked like and if I was dying and didn't know it. In reality, I was just hot and took my shirt off. Nothing more, nothing less.

Make sure you get good stuff, don't take more than 1, but don't take too little or it won't be a memorable first time. Enjoy the night and discover new and exciting things to do. Be safe about it, but make sure it's a fun time.
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Thanks, I'll keep the not asking her if she is ok thing in mind. Thanks for the advice.
 
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