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My theory about the Universe

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thesoundofmotion

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It almost seems as if there is only one way in which everything in our Universe works and what people have been trying to do since the beginning of mankind is figuring out exactly how it works.

Is it that important?

We can't change what exactly is going on in regards to the workings of the Universe. I guess the only thing we can do is develop our best theories on them and apply those theories into modern day use.

Do you understand what I am saying? Is it not completely obvious to most people?
 
one day well figure out the mathematical formula that describes the universe then, our whole reality will dissolve and as sign will pop up that says 'level two'.
 
this it isnt necessary for everyone or anyone to do -
though it may be the most crucial and important
'thing' to understand.

should everyone be able to?
if there are theories to be used as "tools", and we are
able to apply them regularly to our life;; would you consider
that an advancement of our times or a de-fragmentation of?


" our whole reality will dissolve and as sign will pop up that says 'level two' "

im unsure if i trust 'level two' much - as i am unsure of what to even call where i came from now -
(-;why should i feel this advancement then;-)
 
we're eventually going to find the mathematical formula i think, and my guess is it will be combination of all the formulas developed by the mayans, jews, etc... quantum theory seems to be getting really close to explaining alot of the unexplainable things weve been seeing, i think? also the fibonacci sequence has come up for the past 500 years in completely seperate theories about the universe, so something tells me that is the right track
 
thesoundofmotion said:
It almost seems as if there is only one way in which everything in our Universe works and what people have been trying to do since the beginning of mankind is figuring out exactly how it works.

Is it that important?
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It's because mankind has never grown up.

It's still the same child, afraid of the dark.

Peace...
 
As a dude sometime somewhere said something like "we are the universe trying to understand itself".
 
Budisti said:
As a dude sometime somewhere said something like "we are the universe trying to understand itself".
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There's a crucial mistake there that man has been making for centuries.

A subject cannot have itself as an object, in order to understand itself.

If this was understood in the first place, that the subject itself could only *be* itself, not know/understand itself, it would be clear by now that consciousness/awareness is the subject (not the human body), and that subject is inseparable from object.

To know yourself, look out through your eyes at any time. You're seeing it.

Peace...
 
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red is red because it aborbs every color except for red
you are you because you are everything but yourself.

ayyye
 
Lazyscience said:
^^ i like that a lot.
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You might be interested is Cosmism or pansychism, which both explore the notion of the the universal telos is self-understanding..

Russian Cosmism
Panpsychism

and the schools that have emerged therefrom. I would encourage you to read-up on Panprotoexperientialism

There is a plethora of newer writings (and I tink a few journals) that cover the issue.

I personaly find the idea that all matter/energy wills to self-knowledge....and therefore sentient life a very appealing one. The Universal telos is self-realisation, whether the telos is a property of matter/energy and whether the cosmos is suffused with an as yet undiscovered force that agitates everything in it towards the realisation of life - the telos being that in the end nothing in the Universe will lack consciousness.

These exuberant musings find a more rigorous form is panpsychism.
 
Lazyscience said:
one day well figure out the mathematical formula that describes the universe then, our whole reality will dissolve and as sign will pop up that says 'level two'.
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the problem with this idea, is that there will not be a single mathematical theory which describes exactly the outcomes to every experiment we can perform. there will be a multitude of such theories. each will then have a multitude of models with different ontological baggage, which all give exactly the same predictions. this is basically what the mathematical field of model theory is about, though obviously it doesn't yet deal with candidates for the axioms of the universe because we don't have any. but just as there are nonstandard models of arithmetic, there will be nonstandard models of the universe. afaik the number of theories precisely describing reality could possibly be infinite, meaning the chances of the theory we hit on to describe reality being the correct one are vanishingly small. in addition, again afaik, the number of models instantiating each theory could possibly be infinite, meaning even if we get the correct theory, our interpretation of it could be totally wrong.

this doesn't IMO undermine the logic of trying to explain the universe even at the most fundamental level. it can have unexpected benefits for humanity, for example the internet arising from CERN.

and OP- by saying 'there is only one way the universe works' do you mean that its clear that there's a grand unified theory? i personally see no problem in having two fundamental laws in the universe, as long as they don't contradict each other, as is the case with our two current laws of the universe. or am i totally misunderstanding you?
 
SpinOutOfControl said:
There is no pattern outside of your mind. We perceive this world based on patterns. Nature has flaws.
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Even the notion of flaws is based on mental patterning (the notion of perfection). You can't have flaws without an idea of perfection.

Surrender (the search for) perfection, and all flaws go with it -- leaving only "what is". Neither flawed, nor perfect. "Just as it is, because it is as it is"... only 'is', nothing but 'is', arising/flowing as 'is'.

It tends to make the "mind of time" (psyche, ego) violently ill with disgust, boredom, desperation... you name it ;). The notion of people wanting enlightenment is the biggest practical joke in history. Everybody is busy actively avoiding it with as much dedication as they can muster.

Enlightenment is the end of 'me', when hope and help are gone. Peeps posting on "The Dark Side" forum are almost certainly 'closer to it' than well-heeled business people soaking up their accomplishments. Or spiritual sillies babbling in denial about love and light, for that matter.

Peace...
 
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my theory of the universe is that no1 will ever know the real truth and that people will go on until the end of mankind making up differnt stories, some of them more fucking retarded than others because unless you meet God and He tells you how he did it how the fuck do you have the slightest clue?
 
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