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Jlowe

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So i've probably rolled upwards of 40+ times now over the past year and a half.
It seems that I don't ever roll now, and its been that way for a while, whether I take 2 tabs or molly caps.

I usually don't go above 2 tabs a night, and I usually double drop them.
recently, i've been taking/snorting molly caps instead of doing tabs. I'm at the club practically sober. Then when i smoke some weed I start to feel it, but nothing even worth the money i'm paying. I like rolling a lot, but it seems that atleast half the times i've rolled I haven't really rolled hard.

i've taken 1 tab before, rolled nuts, taken 1 molly cap before, rolled nuts for about 2 hours.

i've taken 2 tabs and hardly rolled before, taken molly caps and don't even feel anything.
is it just because i've built up a tolerance and aren't taking enough? i almost don't think rolling is worth it anymore, sometimes i don't even roll then have trouble sleeping. anyones opinions?
 
You are like me. You need a higher starting dose. Which sucks because you shouldnt be dropping 500 mg of MDMA+ to roll neurotoxicity goes up side affects go up, fuck it. How long have you breaked. I have gotten the magic back after having a period of time where I was railing tabs and eating them everyday (Not like an addict(at least no one ever thought I was, even family, close friends), I do not feel like I have fucked myself in any way. Im very positive :) I am not taking any meds

and yeah its like if I rolled at all I would have to smoke weed to "start feeling it"

are you aware that you're supposed to roll once a month max and even that is too much?
 
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40+ times in the past year and a half!?!?! I'm sorry, but that's crazy. You definitely did not space your rolls out enough and probably "lost the magic." The safe way to roll is waiting 2-3 months (at least) between rolls, it sounds as if you've been rolling almost every weekend for a year and a half.

One of three things has happened to you. Either a) you lost the magic, b) you built up a tolerance, or c) all of the above. Your best bet is to take A VERY LONG BREAK (I'm talking like 6 months to a year) and then try taking more after that. You can try rolling one more time after a shorter 2-3 month break (though I DO NOT recommend it) to see if it works, but you still will need that 6-12 month (or longer!) break afterwards.

Rolling nearly every weekend for 18 months is extremely bad for your health, and you have very much abused MDMA. It's a wonder you even think you can still roll off of two pills, a lot of people who roll less than that take 5+. You have abused MDMA for a long time and most likely "lost the magic." I'm very sorry if you can't roll anymore, but I sincerely hope you've learned from this experience and never abuse another drug like you have abused this one again.
 
You're rolling too often, and you now have a tolerance.
You're not feeling it anymore because you need a break from it. You've been using up all your serotonin and you need to give it time to replenish. Also with rolling so often, you can't always expect to roll off the same amount of MDMA.
I would go way further into detail on all this, but I have to go. I know you will get many comments explaining all this to you. BTW, there is TONS on information on all this on this site..
 
I wouldn't say thats crazy its just not recommended if you wanna keep your tolerance low. It could also be bad for you depending on who you are.

it sounds like he just didn't know the rules

Theres hope man just take a break lead a healthy lifestyle you will roll again. If you're not someone who can wait a year wait at least 3 months man :) I promise it wont be the same but youll notice the difference HUGELY and appreciate it way more
 
Sociable said:
I wouldn't say thats crazy its just not recommended if you wanna keep your tolerance low. It could also be bad for you depending on who you are.

it sounds like he just didn't know the rules

Theres hope man just take a break lead a healthy lifestyle you will roll again. If you're not someone who can wait a year wait at least 3 months man :) I promise it wont be the same but youll notice the difference HUGELY and appreciate it way more
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Rolling nearly every week for a year and a half is crazy, and it's also very bad for you.
 
OP: I agree with most of the points Sakura made. One month is the minimum wait recommendation by most users. Alex Shulgin himself has stated he thinks every 90 days is optimal.

sakura.summers said:
40+ times in the past year and a half!?!?! I'm sorry, but that's crazy. You definitely did not space your rolls out enough and probably "lost the magic." The safe way to roll is waiting 2-3 months (at least) between rolls, it sounds as if you've been rolling almost every weekend for a year and a half.

One of three things has happened to you. Either a) you lost the magic, b) you built up a tolerance, or c) all of the above. Your best bet is to take A VERY LONG BREAK (I'm talking like 6 months to a year) and then try taking more after that. You can try rolling one more time after a shorter 2-3 month break (though I DO NOT recommend it) to see if it works, but you still will need that 6-12 month (or longer!) break afterwards.

Rolling nearly every weekend for 18 months is extremely bad for your health, and you have very much abused MDMA. It's a wonder you even think you can still roll off of two pills, a lot of people who roll less than that take 5+. You have abused MDMA for a long time and most likely "lost the magic." I'm very sorry if you can't roll anymore, but I sincerely hope you've learned from this experience and never abuse another drug like you have abused this one again.
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Sociable said:
Apologies I am being a little absent minded. That is most certainly terrible for you, I was just trying to be a little positive for OP.
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Thanks for pointing that out actually, I just realized that I might have sounded a little rude.

OP: I wasn't trying to be rude or mean, I was just pointing out that you did in fact abuse MDMA quite a bit, and really need to be better to your body. Your body is a temple, but only if you treat it as one. Please be better to yourself. Take multi-vitamins and eat well, take a break from drugs in general (not just MDMA.)
 
sounds like you are getting weak or bunk pills. i rolled every weekend for close to 4 years and rolled hard everytime, but these were strong pills from the same source everytime, back when good pills were plentiful. mdma just isnt what it used to be. people dont take that into account, or dont know because they didnt roll back when it was good.
 
pnut3844 said:
sounds like you are getting weak or bunk pills. i rolled every weekend for close to 4 years and rolled hard everytime, but these were strong pills from the same source everytime, back when good pills were plentiful. mdma just isnt what it used to be. people dont take that into account, or dont know because they didnt roll back when it was good.
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It doesn't sound like weak or bunk pills...
It sounds EXACTLY like a built tolerance, and someone who needs a break to help restore serotonin.
MOST people cannot roll NEARLY as long as you have (if you even infact did).
Rolling 40+ times over a year and a half and expecting to roll balls off 1 or two pills/tabs is kind of ridiculous.
 
No Consequence said:
It doesn't sound like weak or bunk pills...
It sounds EXACTLY like a built tolerance, and someone who needs a break to help restore serotonin.
MOST people cannot roll NEARLY as long as you have (if you even infact did).
Rolling 40+ times over a year and a half and expecting to roll balls off 1 or two pills/tabs is kind of ridiculous.
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as i said i rolled every weekend for close to 4 years and rolled hard everytime. but these pills were the shit straight off the boat in miami. tolerance might play some role but people dont realize how weak pills are now days not to mention the pipes out there. if you didnt roll back when the pills were awesome and plentiful, then you dont know what im talking about. everyone in my rolling circle back then, which included some 50 odd people, rolled at least decent if not hard every time we rolled, and they were all abusing too
 
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pnut3844 said:
as i said i rolled every weekend for close to 4 years and rolled hard everytime. but these pills were the shit straight off the boat in miami. tolerance might play some role but people dont realize how weak pills are now days not to mention the pipes out there. if you didnt roll back when the pills were awesome and plentiful, then you dont know what im talking about. everyone in my rolling circle back then, which included some 50 odd people, rolled at least decent if not hard every time we rolled, and they were all abusing too
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I don't even want to reply to this. Half the replies you put on this site are pointless replies about how you roll all the time with no ill-effects. While this could be true, most people can't abuse like that. You can't assume everone reacts the same way to MDMA as you do. Most people, along with me, have seen an increase in tolerance while not using nearly as often as the OP.
 
No Consequence said:
I don't even want to reply to this. Half the replies you put on this site are pointless replies about how you roll all the time with no ill-effects. While this could be true, most people can't abuse like that. You can't assume everone reacts the same way to MDMA as you do. Most people, along with me, have seen an increase in tolerance while not using nearly as often as the OP.
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i have never said i didnt have any bad side effect. in fact its quite the opposite. if you read one of the threads i started it explains my long term effects. im just saying that if the mdma is good, you will roll. straight up. i dont care what you believe.
 
pnut3844 said:
i have never said i didnt have any bad side effect. in fact its quite the opposite. if you read one of the threads i started it explains my long term effects. im just saying that if the mdma is good, you will roll. straight up. i dont care what you believe.
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If the MDMA is good *AND YOU TAKE ENOUGH OF IT* you will roll. People build a tolerance, and after long time abuse it stops working for some people.
 
Try taking a break for 6 months and then roll with good dear. I am pretty sure it will feel just as good as when you first started rolling. You've been rolling so much that it has become a routine for you, it's not that special something that attracts people to MDMA in the first place.

Long breaks and correct set + setting are the best way to not become disappointed/bored with MDMA.
 
sakura.summers said:
If the MDMA is good *AND YOU TAKE ENOUGH OF IT* you will roll. People build a tolerance, and after long time abuse it stops working for some people.
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oh i agree you do build tolerance to it. i guess we were just exceptions to it bc we were always rolling. but i did notice towards the end i didnt want to do all the massages and lovey dovey things, i just wanted to not be touched and either do or watch glowsticks. of course it may have just been me getting tired of the same routine. whatever it was im glad i slowed way down when i did.
 
In the past year and a half you should only have rolled about 9 times. That's once every two months... If you can't answer this for yourself, don't bother asking bluelight because all you will get is the same answer as mine.
 
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