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Preparations for Taking Mushrooms Following a Bad Trip?

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Cinder

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Alright, I'm getting ready to cover up my last shroom trip(worst time of my life) with a fresh one next friday.

I'm understandably nervous since I had such a terrible trip last time. My main problems with my last trip were:
1) Nausea. Nausea so terrible I couldn't even more or think.
2) Ego death. Lower dose maybe? Don't want ego death again. That sucked.
3) General physical discomfort. Just body sensations and stuff.

I took 2 grams last time. I was thinking 1.5 to start with?

In your experience, what's the best way to prepare it to eliminate nausea?

Would you smoke MJ on the come up to help with nausea and come up anxiety?

I just need tips. In your experience, what's the best way to going about tripping for the first time after a bad one?

Thanks in advance. =)
 
hey cinder, maybe i can help

the nausea is normal, the shrooms are probably not going to agree with everyones stomach, try drinking some ginger ale

as far as the MJ goes.. in my experiences, once the shrooms have fully taken effect, I could smoke for hours and not feel a thing, the shrooms will overpower the THC, but if you begin to feel nauseous after taking the mushrooms then smoking a bit couldnt hurt, if anything it would make you feel better, not any worse

the key is to make yourself feel as normal and safe as possible while doing shrooms - eat them in a sandwich or something, sit down, smoke a couple bowls and if you get high enough you'll forget all about those mushrooms until you feel them kicking in

the general physical discomfort (body load) is normal, it comes along with mushrooms and other hallucinogenics, the best thing to do is just find a comfortable place to lay down and enjoy the ride, the more you think about it and trip yourself out the rougher it will be

for me, shrooms were something to do away from others, or with other people also taking them, I hated seeing people who werent on them it made me super paranoid. you have to have a set, safe location where you will be able to stay and enjoy yourself and not have any interruptions,

hopefully this helped a bit
 
First off the nausea is NOT caused by the psilocybin but by the tough hard to digest aspect of the shroom material. Get a $10 coffee bean grinder and grind the dried shroom dose to a very fine powder... goes right through the stomach and into your brain with no nausea whatsoever that I have ever felt (but DID feel just eating them straight)

Eating them in a sandwich is a weird idea. They work by far the best and cause the lease nausea consumed powdered on an empty stomach. swallow the powder in small 1/4 teaspoons with something like pineapple juice to mask the taste, or mix with honey or peanut butter and eat.

MJ is definitely nice to increase affects, but it can also make the trip cloudy and more confusing.

Save it for later when you start to feel the shrooms waning if you want a "booster". Pretty amazing synergy then.

SKIP the MJ on the come-up. Let it be just you and the shrooms.

1.5g might be a bit low... things are very non-linear with shroom doses. Maybe try 1.75 this time.

Relaxation and meditation to prepare... sit and try to focus on breathing... clear the mind of all thought... when when a thought does appear just remember to let it pass like a cloud and go back to "no-thought". Do this for 20min to 1 hr before taking the shrooms.

Also do it WHILE tripping in order to dissolve any "bad trip" thoughts that may arise... remember that EVERYTHING is a construct of YOUR MIND and to just "step back a level" to a clear empty place of "NO THOUGHT" if things get difficult. This always seems to work very well for me.

Good luck... God speed...

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(NOTE - This is a graphic they used to play at peak psychedelic moments of Dead shows.... it has a VERY intense and nearly paranormal effect when viewed full screen tripping... try it! btw, it's spelling out the letters in Sanskrit for the word "Namaste")
 
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Thanks guys. =)

Will a regular grinder(for like weed?) work?

I think the nausea is what caused my bad trip last time. I'm emetophobic(phobia of puking or being around puking or anything to do with puking), so if I can just not feel nausea I think I'll be okay.

Empty or full stomach best?

I asked one of my close friends to be our sober sitter because I think I will find her (sober)presence really reassuring. I have a place to do it where I feel safe, and people I'm comfortable around.

I'm ready to bury this bad trip, just gotta make sure this trip is a good one.

I'll def take the advise of grinding it(hopefully a weed grinder will work).

I think maybe I'll make a drink out of it?

Maybe I'll start with some pineapple juice, mix the shroom powder, and empty one of my pure ginger capsules into it. All in a shot glass, and then take the shot? Does that sound like a nausea proof idea? I'll have some mary jane on hand just in case.
 
Empty stomach best.

Weed grinder probably will not turn shroom to fine powder but I never tried that. But really no competition fo 10,000 RPM metal motor driven blades of an electric bean grinder... those things are intense, and IMO the ultra-fine powder is what beats the nausea. If its all you have give it a shot. But the bean grinders are easy to find at walmart or kmart in kitchen appliances area. And cheap. Just a motor and a blade.

Problem mixing the powder with the juice is it settles real fast and sticks to the sides. Thats why I always just dump little 1/4 spoonfulls on the back of my tongue and then chug a few gulps of juice... repeat till done.... I never taste a thing. But you can try mixing as well... just be sure to re-fill the glass with more juice and swish and drink to be sure you get it all!
 
It's something that doesn't enough focus around here but trust me your body's state going into a trip has ALOT to do with peripheral effects.

Lots of exercise and proper diet will go long ways for reducing if not completely eliminating bad body load (cramping, uncomfortable constriction)

Not to say those effects are completely erased but your body will be able to handle them properly with no pain or noticeable discomfort.

I was a hardcore athlete before I became a psychonaut.

The only time I got bad body load from shrooms was during a period where I was neglecting to exercise and had a very poor diet.

When I am taking care of myself as usual I have never felt the slightest bit of any bad bodyload from any substance. Even 1,000 morning glory seeds lol

Also try going for a walk on the come up maybe? Helped me alot the one time I was having a bad body load.

Supplement stores also sell many different types of "vasodilators" that I have heard might help, maybe some L-arganine would help out circulation?
 
What about a blender? lol. I'm really trying to avoid buying something like that because I would have to bring it home and my mom would be like, "...Soo apparently we have a bean grinder now. Hm"

Hmm. I actually consider myself pretty healthy. I get a lot of exercise, and eat generally healthily.

I've had nausea free, bad body load free shroom trips before. This one for some reason just got really uncomfortable and gave me ego death.

Is the rumor that caps cause the mind high and stems cause the body high true? Because in that case, maybe it would help to eat less stems?
 
No difference between caps and stems, total urban legend.

The nausea did not cause ego-death... the psilocybin did that.

Blender could work, but such a small amount of substance needs to be contained to remain in contact with the blades or it will just get stuck at the top of the blender without getting powdered. With a bean grinder you put the stuff in there and shake it while running the motor to get everything fully pulverized.

Ah... Mom... I was wondering if live-with-parents was the issue. So get a little cheap coffee maker and a bag of whole beans and tell her you discovered you like coffee, and when made from fresh ground beans before each brew its 1000% better (THIS IS TRUE, BTW). Just be sure to use it for that. And be sure to rinse the cap and wipe out the body with a damp paper towel to get rid of the shroom dust after using it for that. OR instead of keeping it in your room, just buy the family some whole beans and a grinder as a gift... keep it in the kitchen, then you have it to use to powder your shrooms when Mom is gone. Honestly I don't think she would have the slightest clue the real reason you got it was to grind dried shrooms.
 
Well I didn't think the nausea caused ego death. I know that's the psilocybin. it was just something that made my trip worse that I haven't had before.

I suppose I could do that. The only problem with that is I really hate coffee. I could just buy it as a gift, though. So it's a coffee bean grinder? And I can get one for like 10 bucks? I'll spend 10 bucks if it means avoiding that terrible nausea.
 
Yea, I've seen them from 9-15.

Try coffee made from fresh ground beans... maybe a flavored variety... add some half-and-half. It really awesome. Alot of coffee is really badly made swill from stale old pre-ground crud and in a dirty brewer... which cause super bitterness and makes it taste like dishwashing water... fresh ground high quality beans brewed in a clean machine with a bit of cream is worlds away from bad stuff.
 
If this was your first ego death experience, and if you're anything like me, prepare yourself be hit again. Sorry, but bad trips tend to linger long in the mind. The ego death experience is very traumatizing, and it's still probably boiling under your skin. I really don't mean to fuck the whole trip for you, but all I'm saying is that it's very probable to return.

How about using a more predictable substance than shrooms? 2c-x, lsd, are in my books much more friendly. jus' sayin' is all.
Anyway, good luck!
 
Hmm. Okay, so ill get the coffee bean grinder if I can muster up enough money. If I don't manage to get money in time, what's the second best method?

Also, I had a thought. I want to do everything I can to ensure I don't get that nausea again. I have these pills, promethasine(antinausea antihistamine). Would taking one of those help?

And I do use lsd and like it better, but I want to take mushrooms again because I feel like that last time defeated me, and I don't want to be beaten or be afraid. I want to this for a kind of closure.
 
well perhaps to weed grinder will bust the cellulose up into tiny enough particles that will just pass through stomach without upset, we can hope... its that indigestible tough stuff that makes the tummy ache. fine powder I know for certain no stomach upset... but if you cant swing the bean grinder, give the weed grinder a shot... just keep at it for a LOOOONG time... cut them up into small bits with scissors first to give it a leg up.

I admire your fighting spirit!
 
Your fear and avoidance of nausea need to be faced.
You're going to get chased like hungry wolves chasing a rabbit.
 
Consider making mushroom tea, I don't even consider taking mushrooms without doing it this way. You peak much faster and the experience is shortened slightly but its one of the best ways to avoid nausea. Ginger root is also great. I often redose with tea to extend my trips.

Take 1.5 grams in a calm state of mind with soothing music and watch a sunset. Have a fresh flower in hand, the fragrance always puts my mind at ease while tripping. I admire your will to try again. Good vibes from me... hope it goes well!
 
IMO a grinder isnt necessary. Last time I tripped I just broke them apart with my hands and put them into half a PB&J sandwich. I didnt taste them at all, had no nausea, and had an awesome trip %)

good luck, and remember: just breathe
 
Thanks, guys! ^.^

So for shroom tea, would putting the ground up shrooms in tea bags work? My friend already ground the mushrooms into little pieces that we could put in tea bags.

I've never made shroom tea, so could someone explain how to best do it?
 
Cinder said:
Thanks, guys! ^.^

So for shroom tea, would putting the ground up shrooms in tea bags work? My friend already ground the mushrooms into little pieces that we could put in tea bags.

I've never made shroom tea, so could someone explain how to best do it?
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Yes, put the ground up or broken up mushrooms into a tea bag. Bring water to a boil on your stove. Pull it off the stove and as soon as it stops boiling, pour it into a mug with your tea bag within it. Cover and let sit 10-15 minutes. Squeeze the excess out of the tea bag and then drink. Bring water to a boil again and steep the tea bag one more time and drink.

I find putting some honey and freshly squeezed lemon in your mug adds a nice taste. You can also steep a green tea bag as well to add antioxidants and better the taste.

Hope you enjoy :)
 
antihistamineswork a treat for my shroom sickness. OTC product in aus, don't know about other countries though. I'd suggest after having the experience you had last time, start off with one gram. There is no need to rush bac into it again. Get yourself comfortable with the mushrooms again, otherwise you'll find yourself connecting the dots to a bad experience again. If you can get your hands o it, get some Xanax. Dont have them at the first twinge of nasty vibrations though, always try and work through it first otherwise you'll leave the unfinished problems stored I your mind. Hope it all goes swimmingly for you mate. Peace
 
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You don't need a coffee grinder....i've gotten by with a plastic weed grinder and a screen strainer and got it fine enough to remove the small little annoying, gritty pieces of rice.
I think I prefer to add the powder to a glass of a half sliced lemon let it sit for about five minutes then add a little oj then down the hatchet......oh yeah right before you down set your intentions in your mind then whamo.
I prefer mushies to other psyches for the reflective properties the mushies give...yeah can be downright uncomfortable at times but once you get through the madness....you'll be like cheech "I can see clearly now the sun is shining......."
 
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