There is no hiding with LSD

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Beyond the flowers that turn into cats, an acid trip forces users to face whatever comes up, and self-knowledge often follows

Sue Blackmore
guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 22 March 2011 10.49 GMT


Is LSD a great spiritual teacher? Or indeed a teacher at all? My answer is an emphatic "Yes", even though there will always be students who learn nothing from their teachers or misuse what they do learn.

For me LSD is the ultimate psychedelic. It's a tough one – one not to be taken lightly or often. A typical trip lasts eight to 10 hours and there's no respite or way out once you've popped that tiny scrap of blotter in your mouth. I will even admit that on those rare occasions when I take it I feel some deep physiological reaction that makes me involuntarily shaky and afraid just before that fateful moment.

So why do it? Because the fear is worth – a million times over it's worth – the experience.

That experience, as many writers have explained, depends dramatically on the set and setting – on what you expect of the trip, where you are, whom you are with, and how safe you feel. One of the tragedies of drug prohibition is that we have never developed a culture in which young people can learn how to use powerful drugs properly from older, wiser and more experienced psychonauts. I count myself lucky to have encountered such good teachers to guide me with such drugs as LSD, psilocybin, DMT, MDMA and mescaline.

Of course the psychedelics can be just plain fun – the amazing colours, the shifting and moving scenes, the flowers that turn into cats that turn into rabbits that disappear down holes; the sounds that turn into streams that flow away into the sky. But very few people have eight hours of simple fun. This drug, above all, confronts you with yourself. The flickering flowers can turn into scenes of horror and desperation, the coloured-streaked sky into a theatre of unwelcome memories and shame.


Full article: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belief/2011/mar/22/lsd-acid-trip-self-knowledge
 
interesting article, hopefully it gets some people to think about their attitudes to the criminalization of psychedelics. However, there isn't anything new in this article for people who have already tried LSD.
 
Ah sure but if the girl had a good time...Shame it was only in the free comment section of the UK's most liberal daily or else it might have sparked controversy.

And that's always fun.
 
I feel like they're helpful if you allow an equal amount of soberity
 
I wouldn't describe psychedelics as "fun" really. The word I'd pick is "adventurous" like going on a safari or something. They can be exciting and new and interesting, but they can also be weird and overwhelming and psychologically challenging. If nothing else at least psychedelics can often take you somewhere new and surprising and unexpected. But if you really just want to have "fun" just get some mdma or mephedrone and go out dancing ;)
 
DMT moar.


Interesting article.

I disagree with this comment though. DMT has personally provided me with considerably more then any other psychedelic, but from my vast experience I seem to be the minority. The majority of people seem to be able to accomplish more "personal" over the exponentially longer lasting LSD. DMT shows us so much.. but it is kind of like watching a 120 minute movie on super fast-forward and obtaining all that information in 6 minutes. Although you have seen it all, you would have gained much more from it over a sustained duration.

Ayahusca and LSD are the ultimate spiritual teachers in my humble opinion. Freebase DMT is amazing, but there is little to gain from it compared to other experiences.

Just my opinion :)
 
I would never describe LSD as fun unless you are dosing extremely low, LSD for me at least, is almost like a mental test and every time i come out with a stronger grip on real, reality
 
I would never describe LSD as fun unless you are dosing extremely low, LSD for me at least, is almost like a mental test and every time i come out with a stronger grip on real, reality

yeah I agree, it is pretty high up on my list of favorites, but it is more of a psychological mindfuck than kittens and flowers lol <3
 
I always prefered DMT over LSD, the few times I have done LSD it wasn't as amazing as my DMT experiences, but I agree, any psychedelics make you a wiser individual when you've found your way through the trip.
 
The Guardian seem to be running a series of articles on LSD. Sorry for posting this one late.

Psychedelics' bejewelled sledgehammer

Robert Dobbs
guardian.co.uk, Friday 25 March 2011 12.16 GMT
With reader comments

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belief/2011/mar/25/psychedelics-lsd-trip

At 14, I was much taken by phenomenology. The idea that certainty was an illusion, our experiences and logical conclusions forever trapped behind imperfect senses, gelled with my distrust of religious dogma and fondness for science's inbuilt doubts. These things are important, at 14.

Ten years later, flat on my back beneath an orange east-London night sky, with Elgar on the headphones and illegal indole groups rewiring my brain, phenomenology went from a nice idea to case proven.

As photography's true pleasure is in the taking of the picture rather than the printing of it afterwards, the point of the psychedelic experience isn't in its recollection – let alone in that direst of hippy pastimes, the recounting of how fried we were, man. (Although to the startled Japanese tourist seeking directions whose shoes were vomited over in Kew Gardens one eternal afternoon: sincere apologies. Man, we got that dose wrong.)

Psychedelics don't change the kit of parts you're made of but they do reveal them, albeit by use of a bejewelled sledgehammer. If you're lucky – or perhaps just that way inclined – they go back in the box with a few new ways of working; at the very least, with a broader sense of beauty and acceptance of how enormously strange the whole business of self is. That can lead, if you wish, to more understanding of how different the world can seem to others, thence to more compassion for them. And yourself.

I'm not a skilled art critic, an enlightened cosmic being or a devastatingly insightful cognitive scientist by virtue of having taken LSD, any more than a trip to Stockholm on Ryanair has left me able to fly or speak Swedish. But I have been places where the world was no longer constrained by normal thoughts, normal senses, and brought back souvenirs that I treasure greatly.

And to look on the bright side, I no longer throw up on the footwear of passers-by.
 
I would never describe LSD as fun unless you are dosing extremely low, LSD for me at least, is almost like a mental test and every time i come out with a stronger grip on real, reality
Ya know, any drug could potentially fit this category. Stimulant abusers are often forced into facing such weighty human bugaboos as aloneness, loss and the possibility of their own death. Fwiw, LSD holds absolutely no monopoly on spirituality, and IMO to believe it does (and subsequently that one is having a special, unique experience better and more meaningful than others) is egoistic in the extreme.

P.S. nothing you said above suggested that, but I think it's worth nothing anyhoo, given the general tendency of some LSD fans to put it into a special, unique "spiritual" category. There's ego involved in that, without a doubt.

Peace...
 
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