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Opioids safe use of Fentanyl 25mcg IV w/o much tolerance?

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Hey everyone,

It's been a long time since I've used any opiates (last percocet 10mg was back in January), although I've been using dilaudid and roxicodone pre-october 2010 for almost 2 years straight. Back in late october 2010 I also was forced to "detox" myself with my adderall (both orally & IV - because I moved away and lost my source) which killed my withdrawals and broke my dependence to them permanently.

I recently am going to be getting a 25mcg fentanyl patch (activis brand) any day now (it was suppose to be for my birthday AKA "The Birthday Fentanyl", but it toke a while coming through.

I just want to know if this substance would be safe to IV?

I remember reading somewhere that having a really high opiate tolerance takes a very, very long time to get "rid" of, knowing how potent Fent is, would this be a good idea - or a bad one?

Thanks,
- Seconal
 
thats actually 2.5mg of fent brah

thats alot of doses.

you're far better off vaping tiny beads of gel until you're where you wanna be for recreational use..
 
titstypedthis said:
thats actually 2.5mg of fent brah

thats alot of doses.

you're far better off vaping tiny beads of gel until you're where you wanna be for recreational use..
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How many doses could I make with 2.5mgs of fentanyl?

I've had many opiates before, but not this one yet. I'm looking forward to trying it - and comparing it to hydromorphone with it's rush and potency.
 
u can squeeze the gel onto a plate and dissolve gel with rubbing alcohol and then dry the plate. then scrap the plate to get tiny fentanyl crystals to smoke or inject but I bet ur tolerance did go down. I had a big tolerance from 8 years of almost continuous use (oxy, h and suboxone). I stopped all opiates in January and have been chipping once a week and its march and I notice my tolerance dropped. i can get a nod off a few bags of NYC dope whereas b4 it was a min of 5 bags per shot.

Remember once u do less u can always do more, but once u do more u cant do less.

Be safe.
 
Yea fent is defiantly one to be careful with. I've only eaten the gel and it put me on my ass. I also have a pretty high tolerance
 
Even with a high opiate tolerance, IVing fentanyl is VERY dangerous, and ill advised. If you are getting the patch that contains the gel, please do yourself and everyone else a favor and either wear it as advised/put some gel between your gums/cheek/or vaporize small bits of gel off of tin foil.

IVing it is not safe at all, and there is a grave possibility you will overshoot your dose, and fucking die. There isn't even that great of a rush with fent in my experience, and the high is so short lived as is, in my opinion wearing it or buccaly absorbing the gel between your gum/cheek is the safest and best way. Smoking it is also very effective and would probably be safer than IV, since you can take small small hits and gauge how high you are.

I've seen fentanyl knock a few opiate tolerant heroin addicts to the ground and shit on them, with not that high a dose.

Tread carefully..
 
I think for hospitals they make fentanyl vials of 50mcg-ml

sooo thats what, 50 doses..


25mcg thats where i'd start if i was dead set on IV fentanyl:|
 
titstypedthis said:
I think for hospitals they make fentanyl vials of 50mcg-ml

sooo thats what, 50 doses..
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If you're using 1mcg, which is a bit on the "baseline-if-any" level of effects.

How many doses depends on dosage and volume. 50 mL of 50 mcg/mL will provide 50 doses of 50 mcg.

25mcg thats where i'd start if i was dead set on IV fentanyl:|
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I wouldn't go above 50mcg without a readily available opiate tolerance. If I was a heroin addict I'd obviously go above that for a first shot, but I can't say what.

It isn't wise to jump on a high dose of fentanyl and hope it's the right one for you.
 
A patch isnt 25 mcgs...

It's 25 mcgs PER HOUR
So that's a ton more. The patches are 72 hours worth at 25 mcgs if I'm not mistaken...
 
Thanks for all the responses.

Yeah, I don't think I'm gonna IV the Fent - now if there was a accurate way of measuring out the dose (1mcg), which would be very difficult if I where to extract only 25mcg if the patch gives off that dose every hour for 72h - then i may consider. So if I where only to use 25, then I guess I'd get 72 doses out of 1 patch.

But I thought wearing it wouldn't give a nice high? Isn't chewing it better?
 
If you started chewing on the patch without a tolerance, it would kill you. Your best bet is to wait until you get the patch, then go from there. You should try taking little globs out and smoking them, or taking little globs out and putting them inbetween your cheek.

That way you get more of a kick.
 
If you have no opiate tolerance, wearing a fentanyl patch should indeed give you a nice long mellow high. Honestly just wearing the thing with no opiate tolerance could prove to be a mistake. Wearing it can be dangerous, since it will take about 8 hours for it to reach peak levels, and by that time, if it was too high a dose, taking it off wouldn't just stop absorption. It gets in your skin, and would continue absorbing for a bit after taking it off.

If it is the non-gel patch, dosing will be easier since you can just cut it into however many pieces you want and then take them buccaly (in your cheek) DON'T just start chewing on the whole thing, that could prove to be a fatal mistake.
 
I haven't gotten the patch yet, but I would think that it's the one with gel inside.

No, I wasn't trying to say I'd chew the whole thing, just cut it up and chew small pieces.(if it had no gel).

I don't think my opiate tolerance is completely down from last year ( I had a massive dependence to dilaudid/oxy - which I'd go through a whole 120 count bottle of 'em in 4 days), so hopefully some of it still remained from september 2010 - so maybe having the patch on for a few hours would be OK?
 
Your tolerance has dropped by now down to about nothing. Maybe more then the average person to "get off". But no you wouldn't have a tolerance anymore.

Your best bet is to put a small amount inbetween your cheek and let it sit there.

Or smoke little little globs. Just face it fentanyl is a potent opiate that is active in microgram doses, made for people that are depedent on opiates that arn't getting relief. So somone with no tolerance doesn't really fit into this equation.

It's like if I had a tolerance to opiates, and I wanted to mix fentanyl and seconal. It's just not gonna work.
 
Yeah I wasn't saying you were going to chew the whole thing, I was just making a general statement.

In regards to your prior tolerance, if you have been off of opiates since september 2010, your tolerance should be basically down to near nothing. Wearing the patch as directed probably won't kill you, since it is only the 25mcg/hr one, but the problem with wearing it, is that it takes 6-8 hours for it to reach peak levels and will take a number of hours before you even feel it. The problem with that though, is that if you are wearing it, and notice you're getting too high/too much respiratory depression, immediately taking it off won't immediately stop the increase of effects. There will still be fentanyl in/on your skin that'll continue to absorb in your bloodstream for a while after taking it off. There is nothing you can do to stop it at that point, other than obviously Narcan.
 
Captain.Heroin said:
If you're using 1mcg, which is a bit on the "baseline-if-any" level of effects.

How many doses depends on dosage and volume. 50 mL of 50 mcg/mL will provide 50 doses of 50 mcg.



I wouldn't go above 50mcg without a readily available opiate tolerance. If I was a heroin addict I'd obviously go above that for a first shot, but I can't say what.

It isn't wise to jump on a high dose of fentanyl and hope it's the right one for you.
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Lol no i mean theres 50 doses in a 25mcg/hour patch
2.5mg = 50 50mcg doses

not in the vials they use in hospitals:|
 
hydrochron said:
Or smoke little little globs. Just face it fentanyl is a potent opiate that is active in microgram doses, made for people that are depedent on opiates that arn't getting relief. So somone with no tolerance doesn't really fit into this equation.
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Fentanyl is also extensively used in surgery, especially with people who don't have any opiate tolerance.

It's not that hard to titrate out a dosage, you just can't guess at it.

If you had an unknown bag of dope and you wanted to IV some, you surely wouldn't take out a large tablespoon, scoop out a full tablespoon scoop of it, and then proceed to shoot as much of it as one could, would you?

The same applies for any drug. You can't guess the dosage, you need to be accurate.
 
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