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The Big & Dandy bk-MDMA (Methylone) Thread - Redosed

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muvolution said:
And how are mephedrone and MDPV different, qualitatively, from this compound, methylone?
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in my experience mephedrone was much more similar to real molly than M1. it was also much fiendier and the compulsion to redose was insane. M1 was very weak for me but pleasant at least.
 
I have to say methylone is a very interesting substance. It provides a very calm and calculated confidence/empathy. MDMA is definitely a much more profound and intense experience, but it can difficult to 'manage' the MDMA experience. When I am on MDMA, I often can't stop myself from getting all loved up and sometimes saying things that I regret later (nothing really bad - but you know...). This doesn't seem to happen on methylone.

I like how its speediness isn't compulsive, unlike coke/speed. I feel like talking on methylone, but I don't just start talking about random BS.

The lack of a hangover and the ability to be productive the next day is another cool benefit of methylone (especially vis a vis MDMA).

Has anyone tried replacing weekend drinking with methylone use? Would this be possible or will methylone start losing it's magic?

The only negative thing about methylone is that it seems be much more addictive than MDMA/psychedelics because the lack of the comedown and the fact that it is so easy to manage a methylone experience.
 
levictus said:
Has anyone tried replacing weekend drinking with methylone use? Would this be possible or will methylone start losing it's magic?

The only negative thing about methylone is that it seems be much more addictive than MDMA/psychedelics because the lack of the comedown and the fact that it is so easy to manage a methylone experience.
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I have a friend who has done this, for several weeks actually, and he seemed to enjoy it just as much, at least in the beginning. it does however lose a bit of magic over time (as well as he developed a tolerance of sorts), because he got used to the feelings, and also wanted a bit more duration. the magic however returned after a few weeks of abstining from use. so i guess the same rule as for all other substances applies here. dont overdo it, the rarer the better

dont be fooled about the seemingly soft comedown of methylone. it is a research chemical and long term effects are all but unknown (some stims can cause long term heart damage for instance). on the short term, one can get a tolerance, especially to the euphoric side to the experience, and after consecutive uses (like 2-3 nights in a row) it can cause mood crashes a few days later, as well as other side effects. also, every person is different, so just because someone has a very good experience doenst mean all will. just be careful, and mind the set and setting ofc
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levictus said:
Has anyone tried replacing weekend drinking with methylone use? Would this be possible or will methylone start losing it's magic?
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I've taken it almost every weekend for several weeks, sometimes twice a week (like Fri + Sun). No overall loss of magic noticed so far.

I've only been disappointed a few times:

I tried two days in a row once, and that wasn't much fun - the second day was nothing but jittery stimulation. (I knew that was likely, but I was mainly trying to find an effective dose of viagra so wasn't really looking for mental effects.)

With one day off in between, I sometimes notice a slight tolerance, so I start with 200mg instead of 180. With 4+ days off I don't notice a tolerance.

I also tried it at a concert once, and didn't notice much effect. I had packed it in some gelcaps with sugar to fill up the caps, but doubt that made a difference. I suspect it was just the distracting setting, since usually I'm relaxing at home with my lady, not standing next to 3000 people being blasted with light and sound.

The first few times were more special on a personal level. The lady and I had been having some issues, and thanks to the M1 we talked them through, learned new things about each other, and are in a much happier place now. It's funny to think that some guy in his basement somewhere, pouring quasi-legal powders into baggies may have changed the course of our relationship. Now that that's done, the experiences are less profound, more hedonistic, but still thoroughly enjoyable.
 
I agree that the experience are generally less profound than with MDMA, but that's why I think this would be a good substance to use a replacement for weekend alcohol use. Most of the time when out drinking, I don't really want to be in a too profound state of mind. Don't get me wrong, I love MDMA/LSD/shrooms, but not everyone is into experiencing that kind of mindset.
 
i think every weekend is a bit much personally. Also, from a neurochemical standpoint if you're taking it every 6 or 7 days you're probably not allowing enough time for everything to re-regulate. I'd be very surprised if the "magic" didn't go away after a few weekends as well
 
Also, it's not only about wether the 'magic' disappears or not. There's also something like common sense and the fact you wouldn't wanna end up like a drooling retard by the time have kids or are ready for retirement or whatever.
 
levictus said:
I agree that the experience are generally less profound than with MDMA, but that's why I think this would be a good substance to use a replacement for weekend alcohol use. Most of the time when out drinking, I don't really want to be in a too profound state of mind. Don't get me wrong, I love MDMA/LSD/shrooms, but not everyone is into experiencing that kind of mindset.
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Agreed - I just meant it was less profound than in the beginning (due to the emotional context). Even in the beginning it was still less profound than MDMA ever was.

What I haven't tried is going out on methylone and socializing like I would with alcohol. That could be fun with the right group.
 
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it's kind of weird, people complain that redosing isn't very effective with this chem but last night I took about 200mg methylone and redosed the same dosage twice over the course of the night, producing nearly full effects each time AND actually diminishing the hangover after each redose wore off... pretty strange shit haha
 
I am thinking of trying methylone by rectal administration soon.

I am on Mirtazapine so I get some dulled effects and orally I have had 300mg, over the course of 2 hours and that was pretty decent but I had a much better time dosing 300mg and then 180mg at around +2, which extended it to a very MDMA like high and the emphathy and love lasted around 5-6 hours.

What dose would any one suggest for plugging?
 
3rd_I_blind said:
Also, it's not only about wether the 'magic' disappears or not. There's also something like common sense and the fact you wouldn't wanna end up like a drooling retard by the time have kids or are ready for retirement or whatever.
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Of course. I am not planning to do methylone every weekend for several months straight. I just wanted to try using it for a few weeks in a row.

I am pretty experienced with MDMA use, so I have a decent idea what I am getting into.
 
DwayneHoover said:
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this is what i do, definitely a more efficient search method

levictus said:
Of course. I am not planning to do methylone every weekend for several months straight. I just wanted to try using it for a few weeks in a row.

I am pretty experienced with MDMA use, so I have a decent idea what I am getting into.
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A couple or three weekends in a row is still a little ill advised, but i wouldn't think it would cause too many problems
 
I have to say methylone has some very interesting effects. I felt like I learned a lot about myself and the way I act around other people. It's almost like M1 helped me see the error of my own ways with regards to social interaction. I often go out of my way to help people and on M1 I really noticed how people abuse this. It's like M1 allows you to analyse your habits from the third person. Very interesting compound.
 
kingme said:
dont be fooled about the seemingly soft comedown of methylone. it is a research chemical and long term effects are all but unknown (some stims can cause long term heart damage for instance).
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I was deceived by its seemingly benign nature at first. But it has a nasty side too. I don't use this compound anymore, since I found out that it induced sleep paralysis.

It's not that horrible a side effect compared with other chems on the market, true, but those incidences were deeply disturbing and increased in frequency. Took a while to connect all the dots, but I'm sure it was the Methylone, it stopped after I quit back in december. I wasn't even indulging frequently, a fortnight was the average timespan between doses, I reckon.
 
I'm pretty stoked for this chemical to arrive. I'll probably jump off with a 200mg parachute. Sound like a solid plan?
 
not if this is the first time you're encountered it.

allergy test, then careful work-up to ensure your vendor did not accidently ship you MDPV!
 
Yea I was definitely planning on doing an allergy test. Shit. It better not be MDPV I have no interest in that shit.
 
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