Opioids Kicking opiates - need advice on my plan

[velocity92c]

I am kicking opiates for the nth time this week and need some advice as this time it will be a little different. I only have one suboxone left to work with so it's time to kick this shit for good while I even have it.

I was an IV Oxy user for about a year, got on Suboxone to get off of it and was clean (except the Suboxone) for about 6 months. I then started dabbling with 40mg ER Opanas, which I didn't inject because of the ridiculous process of extracting injectable drugs from it, but snorted instead. I've only recentl started doing these every day, probably about a pill a day for the past 2 weeks. Before that it was a pill a week or so mixed with small doses of suboxone. I have only been doing the opanas for about a month now.

My plan is to IV the smallest amount of suboxone possible to make it last as long as possible, and to just not be fully sick. I know I'm going to be uncomfortable, opana is so much stronger than oxy, I'm probably going to be in hell for the next week even WITH the suboxone. I've strongly considered taking some seroquel and sleeping through the majority of the next week. I don't have a job at the moment, and with the little bit of suboxone I should at least be able to sleep. I don't have access to any benzos to make it any better. My goal is to get this suboxone to last me a week, and by the end of the week be feeling OK enough to continue the rest of the way with nothing. I figure the first 3-4 days are going to be pretty rough but after that I should be feeling much better with just the sub, and this rapid detox should be enough to feel good enough to continue with no suboxone at the end of the 7th day.

Any tips for me? I know I should probably get some immodium as my bowels will probably be raging. I don't have a job at the moment so the sleeping seems like a viable option for me. Obviously I don't plan to sleep for days at a time with no food, but sleeping 12 hours a night will probably be possible with the help of the seroquel. Anyway, I'm looking for any advice to make this as comfortable as possible for me. I've only been doing non prescribed opiates for a month now and I can already see my life falling apart again. I am more motivated to quit this time than I was even when I originally got on the suboxone - I just wish I had 1 more suboxone to quit with. Unfortunately it's pretty rare around here so I doubt I'll have more than the one. Any and all advice is appreciated.

 

[Corey9430]

Hey, the biggest part of Heroin with-drawl that i found out was the temporary insanity. I mean the feeling that your so bored you have to do something, but you don't wanna do anything, and your thoughts race but you can't focus on anything. You head will start to hurt from it, so if you can i suggest going and getting like 18-1/4 of some high grade kush, and smoking a bowl every 3-5 hours as needed, that way you can lay on the couch and watch tv, and you may still feel sick but that way it's like you have the flu and you not going crazy because your dope sick and dope is all you can think about.

I swear this also seemed to help with my stomach aches and the runs. The bowel movements were aweful, i'd eat a cracker and shit liquid for a half hour. Once i smoked, my stomach ache went away and although i'd still have mostly liquid poop it was no where near as frequent, painful, or intense. I hope this helps you out a little bit bud, stay strong sobriety is worth it, 1000 fold i promise!

 

[velocity92c]

I've never really smoked weed so it's not much of an option for me. Besides not having any money, I've just never enjoyed it. I'm also in a position where I can get drug tested with 3 to 4 day's notice, so opiates were the perfect drugs for me, whereas marijuana is a no-go. I appreciate the tip though, and welcome any others. I woke up about 2 hours ago very sick and injected about 1mg of Suboxone. I am feeling fine now, but I know it won't last long. I am going to try to sweat it out until I wake up tomorrow to do anymore.

 

[DrugstoreCowboy83]

It seems like you have a good idea what to do already, but I have some experience with opioid w/d (w/ & w/o sub/bupe) and if it were me in your shoes, I'd say take 1mg a day or less (if you're shooting it). That should be fine for 24 hours with the amount you were using IMO. Having enough for 8 days of dosing once is waay better than 2/day for a few. Again, just my opinion from my experience- but I wouldn't take the seroquel. That shits just gonna make you feel even less like a human. Unless you enjoy them anyway I'd say take something else to sleep. I know you can't get benzos but try doxylamine succinate. It's OTC, called unisom. I find it better for sleep than all the 'Z' drugs for an actual sleep aid & it won't add to that shitty 'out of it' feeling like seroquel.

I'm sure sobriety is worth it 1000 fold, but I'm on drugs, so what do I know about it! Good luck!

 

[8L4YN3]

As corey said, i find weed to be a god send, it is the only thing i can do to make myself feel better at all. My withdrawals are all methadone(110mg), so they're pretty intense.

I find it to be exactly like corey said like you feel so disgusting, so cold, so sweaty, so uncomfortable, so bored, SO RESTLESS, but all you can fucking do is either pace up and down the room or writher around in agony on the bed inbewteen rushing to the toilet and dry reaching into a bucket.

The weed helps so much more than anything for me, i can just chop up a heap, and smoke some bongs, this allows you to kinda ignore your sickness for just a little while, like dude said in earlier post about the whole insanity thing i really can relate to that.

Also the best thing about the weed is it will allow you to experience some flow, whats 'flow'? Apparently it's when you're concentrating and you become unaware of time passing, we all know this feeling. Now when you're sick it's basically impossible to get this feeling, weed helps you to ignore it all, and actually be able to lie down still for minutes at a time and just atleast lay there getting some fucking rest finally and not sleep, but i gurantee time will be moving faster.

Sorry velocity dude, i know you're not the keenest on weed. But i only mention it because of how bad i felt, and how much the weed helped me. Really is the determining factor of if i can handle it or not. I know like being addicted to weed theres going to be an extra dimension of comfort it provides me, but i'm certain weeds medicinal effects would do you a world of good in your time of need.

 

[Dinkus123]

Just because marijuana worked for you guys does not mean it will work for everyone. When im WDing I will smoke a very small amount of weed as I get crippling anxiety from WDing alone, alot of marijuana makes it pretty rediculous.

 

[DrugstoreCowboy83]

I thought of one more thing to add. Don't psych yourself out too much, or let others psych you out. I had to go through benzo w/d after a couple years of daily ab/use recently and I found it to be easier once I stopped reading horror stories, honestly. Maybe that's just me.

Remember that, although it can be a agonizing at points, going through the worst part of withdrawals is relatively short (compared to the time you were using.

 

[GratefulDeadhead]

take subs

get some subs!

 

[DwnSouthPillPopper]

Google Thomas Recipe!

 

[childsplay666]

Hey, the biggest part of Heroin with-drawl that i found out was the temporary insanity. I mean the feeling that your so bored you have to do something, but you don't wanna do anything, and your thoughts race but you can't focus on anything. You head will start to hurt from it, so if you can i suggest going and getting like 18-1/4 of some high grade kush, and smoking a bowl every 3-5 hours as needed, that way you can lay on the couch and watch tv, and you may still feel sick but that way it's like you have the flu and you not going crazy because your dope sick and dope is all you can think about.

I swear this also seemed to help with my stomach aches and the runs. The bowel movements were aweful, i'd eat a cracker and shit liquid for a half hour. Once i smoked, my stomach ache went away and although i'd still have mostly liquid poop it was no where near as frequent, painful, or intense. I hope this helps you out a little bit bud, stay strong sobriety is worth it, 1000 fold i promise!

This may work for some.. but i have tried kicking dope and smoking bud to help and its makes the anxiety much worse.. and normally bu puts me right to sleep.. so i would suggest using caution bc it COULD make it worse..

 

[velocity92c]

I appreciate the suggestion of smoking some weed but I just don't like it, and am going to pass on that suggestions. I do appreciate any and all advice though!

I am now approximately 32 hours since my last line of Opana, and I'm not feeling too bad at all. I get this kind of tired, kind of glazed feeling my eyes when I' m not high on opiates, and it's very annoying but probably not a lot I can do about that. I've only taken about 1.5mg of Suboxone so far, so I am doing good at making it last, at least so far. I may not be as uncomfortable as I was expecting to this week. In the past, tiny pieces of Suboxone were fine but I figured with this new heavy habit of a much more potent opiate, the withdrawals would be much worse.

Overall I am uncomfortable but it's definitely bearable. I've been sleeping on and off as much as possible and haven't taken any seroquel yet, but still considering it. Especially the day after I run out of suboxone. I'm betting those 2 to 3 days after running out will be pretty bad, so I may just try to sleep through them.

Anyway, I'll keep you all posted.