Benzo with MDMA to avoid scary episodes?

[Ringfinger]

I don't do MDMA very often (1-2 times a year) but the last time I did, I experienced some seriously scary reactions on the come up. I popped a cpasule of tested and weighed MDMA 115-120 mg and as I came up, I started to have what could be described as a panic attack, and my body temp started to increase.

So I went to the medic, my BP, heartrate, and body temp were at high levels. They ended up putting ice on me and monitoring me for ~20 min.

I don't know why my body reacted to it that way (maybe from stress for the past few months) but I was thinking that popping a xanax pill might help.

Anybody do this before?

 

[eLW]

Maybe you have some problems with your kidneys liver or heart? or some mental problem? What did they say in ER?

 

[foxyloxy55]

I don't think benzos are a good combo with MDMA. I take them on the comedown and they put me right to bed. Some people who get anxious on the come up claim that plugging fixes this. My personal recommendation would be to start with a smaller dose, like 50 milligrams, then take another 50 in a half hour or so... basically stretch the come up out so it's not as intense.

 

[justwillie123]

Yea The come up can be a little Intimidating for some people

I've been coming up real hard at with a group of friends one time and every one was talking loud and I was like DUUUUDEEEE can every one just sit down for a few seconds and shut the fuck up for 5 minutes

Like the poster before me said if your taking mollies just open the capsule up and finger dip half of it and wait 45 minutes until you take the other half

I personally love a strong come up

I find my self involuntary wiping the sweat off my hand on to my jeans over and over

scratching my armpits

act like i'm licking left overs off my face

the you look over at your buddy with a wide ass eyes like HOLY FUCK

sorry I'll stop

Never taking a Benzo before I dose and I'm not an expert or a doctor so don't take my advice but I don't think it would hurt you or the roll

 

[Keaton]

I don't do MDMA very often (1-2 times a year) but the last time I did, I experienced some seriously scary reactions on the come up. I popped a cpasule of tested and weighed MDMA 115-120 mg and as I came up, I started to have what could be described as a panic attack, and my body temp started to increase.

So I went to the medic, my BP, heartrate, and body temp were at high levels. They ended up putting ice on me and monitoring me for ~20 min.

I don't know why my body reacted to it that way (maybe from stress for the past few months) but I was thinking that popping a xanax pill might help.

Anybody do this before?

TBH, for some one that doesn't take MDMA too often, that's sort of a high dose.
By no means is it out of this world or unheard of in any way but you may just be pretty sensitive to the drug.
You have to remember that MDMA causes all of those symptoms that you described. Including anxiety, which in more sever cases may lead to a panic attack.

 

[F1n1shed]

Yea if this reaction happen to you, i wouldn't take over 100mg at once because the come up can be intense as you described. You really have to just keep your self occupied and do things while waiting for the pill to take effect. If you cannot think of anything else and all of your come ups cause intense panic attacks, i don't think .5mg xanax would be a problem at all. How ever be warned that you already forget most of your MDMA experience as it is because it happens so fast, taking xanax with it will usually make you forget everything that happened. Waste of brain cells imo

 

[Bill]

Agreed with NoT
Plus the come up can be pretty edgy sometimes

You might have just been thinking about it too much and let it get the better of you on that sort of large dose.
I wouldn't ever suggest taking a benzo with ecstasy though

I would say just try a smaller dose at first next time and when you start feeling good you can always do an even smaller booster dose and you'll already be comfortable with your high.

 

[Ringfinger]

Maybe you have some problems with your kidneys liver or heart? or some mental problem? What did they say in ER?

Well it wasn't the ER, it was the medic station of a superclub in Europe. Its like a first aid place where they can take your temp, give you water, ice, etc and observe you. As far as my organs go, I had liver/kidney tests after that and although the liver enzymes were slightly high at first, they went back down after 10 days or so.

My heart- well im a thin 26 year old and eat healthy most of the time. I don't see how i would have heart problems.

TBH, for some one that doesn't take MDMA too often, that's sort of a high dose.
By no means is it out of this world or unheard of in any way but you may just be pretty sensitive to the drug.
You have to remember that MDMA causes all of those symptoms that you described. Including anxiety, which in more sever cases may lead to a panic attack.

Yeah I am leaning most to sensitivity. I am more sensitive these days. The thing that bugs me is that ~4 years ago in college I used to do E alot more often and I never felt anything close to that. Even in 2009 I did a very strong pill from holland (not sure about the mgs) and i didn't have a bad comeup like that.

Yea if this reaction happen to you, i wouldn't take over 100mg at once because the come up can be intense as you described. You really have to just keep your self occupied and do things while waiting for the pill to take effect. If you cannot think of anything else and all of your come ups cause intense panic attacks, i don't think .5mg xanax would be a problem at all. How ever be warned that you already forget most of your MDMA experience as it is because it happens so fast, taking xanax with it will usually make you forget everything that happened. Waste of brain cells imo

A) I was dancing on the dancefloor, then when i started to feel strange, i started pacing down the hall, then when it became too much I went to the medic.

B) yeah good point. as far as you know, there aren't any dangers in combining the two, are there?

 

[tripz_two]

another issue might be that you are sensitive to caffeine. Caffeine is a common additive in pills. And too much could mimic an anxiety attack.

 

[rollin_stoned]

MDMA is a stimulant and a psychedelic, both can cause anxiety either physically or psychologically...since this was on the come up, my guess is you're probably just like me...you get anxiety on the come-up either naturally or everything is going too fast for you (by naturally i mean from physiological responses to the drug). Plugging it does not avoid this, in fact, that made the come up way worse for me since it hit me way harder....my anxiety comes from the fact that i'm sensitive to uppers and have anxiety as is, so it kind of mixes.

But yes, you can take a benzo beforehand or drink a beer or something beforehand to calm you down, but it may diminish your roll a bit. If anything, just take .25 mg's xanax or very little alcohol before you dose next time, but only that.

 

[Ringfinger]

MDMA is a stimulant and a psychedelic, both can cause anxiety either physically or psychologically...since this was on the come up, my guess is you're probably just like me...you get anxiety on the come-up either naturally or everything is going too fast for you (by naturally i mean from physiological responses to the drug). Plugging it does not avoid this, in fact, that made the come up way worse for me since it hit me way harder....my anxiety comes from the fact that i'm sensitive to uppers and have anxiety as is, so it kind of mixes.

But yes, you can take a benzo beforehand or drink a beer or something beforehand to calm you down, but it may diminish your roll a bit. If anything, just take .25 mg's xanax or very little alcohol before you dose next time, but only that.

Thanks man.

 

[Ringfinger]

I just wanted to add that after things got under control, my roll was really weak to the point where i just wanted to leave the club. i would have thought that if the dose was strong enough to make me hve a panic attack and high body temp that I would be rolling balls for a few hours, but no.

 

[OCitchy714]

One night me and a bunch of friends went to a rave double droped 2 very pure pills rolling my brains out for a good 2 and half hours and they shut it down at 1 am because some jack ass didnt know what he was doing and was freaking out and the police decided to shut it down so we went back to my buddies house i was still rolling hard but i was so out of my mind that i thought it was over so i decided to pop the 2mg xanax bar that i bought for the come down and it was realy scary when it took effect i kept blacking out and i turned super pale it felt so bizzare and wrong my friends kept slapping me to keep me awake they thought i was gona die so i dont believe that is a good idea at all

 

[marq]

One night me and a bunch of friends went to a rave double droped 2 very pure pills rolling my brains out for a good 2 and half hours and they shut it down at 1 am because some jack ass didnt know what he was doing and was freaking out and the police decided to shut it down so we went back to my buddies house i was still rolling hard but i was so out of my mind that i thought it was over so i decided to pop the 2mg xanax bar that i bought for the come down and it was realy scary when it took effect i kept blacking out and i turned super pale it felt so bizzare and wrong my friends kept slapping me to keep me awake they thought i was gona die so i dont believe that is a good idea at all

Periods. Use them.

 

[sakura.summers]

If you cannot think of anything else and all of your come ups cause intense panic attacks, i don't think .5mg xanax would be a problem at all.

IME xanax is is not good for a roll. It will make you roll less hard, or possibly not at all. Take xanax/benzos for the comedown.

I just wanted to add that after things got under control, my roll was really weak to the point where i just wanted to leave the club. i would have thought that if the dose was strong enough to make me hve a panic attack and high body temp that I would be rolling balls for a few hours, but no.

Are you sure they were good pills? I know you said you tested them, but all that really means is that the pill has MDMA in it, not how much there was. A pill that is 90% caffeine, 5% MDMA and 5% unknown will still test positive for MDMA, because there is MDMA in it, just not enough to make you roll very hard. It's very possible that your pill had little MDMA in it and it was caffeine or some other additive that made you so anxious.

Periods. Use them.

WIN

 

[white_magic]

I just wanted to add that after things got under control, my roll was really weak to the point where i just wanted to leave the club. i would have thought that if the dose was strong enough to make me hve a panic attack and high body temp that I would be rolling balls for a few hours, but no.

Sounds like you had a bad pill, period. Chances are, then, that you're no worse at rolling than 4 years ago in college. Was the pill even tested? Did other people take it & if so, how did they like it?

 

[MrFaust]

it will make you not roll nearly as hard... or at all

 

[Ringfinger]

Are you sure they were good pills? I know you said you tested them, but all that really means is that the pill has MDMA in it, not how much there was. A pill that is 90% caffeine, 5% MDMA and 5% unknown will still test positive for MDMA, because there is MDMA in it, just not enough to make you roll very hard. It's very possible that your pill had little MDMA in it and it was caffeine or some other additive that made you so anxious.

Sounds like you had a bad pill, period. Chances are, then, that you're no worse at rolling than 4 years ago in college. Was the pill even tested? Did other people take it & if so, how did they like it?

It was crystal. I tested it with the complete set of EZ Test regents and everything indicated MDMA without any adulterants. Others in my group had done it too, one of them for the first time. I can't completely rule out adulterants, but everyone else I spoke to who had done it had no complaints. But most of them were taking dabs of it.

It was my second time doing crystal. My first time had been ~9 months prior in Amsterdam. Also regent tested, smelt very strong, and it gave me a slight panic attack for a minute, but after that it was fine. The most recent time though as I described earlier in the thread was something much, much worse.

 

[eLW]

I just wanted to add that after things got under control, my roll was really weak to the point where i just wanted to leave the club. i would have thought that if the dose was strong enough to make me hve a panic attack and high body temp that I would be rolling balls for a few hours, but no.

start rolling from half pill - i never ever in my life took whole pill at once. 0.5 pill then after it kicks in. second half. and after 30 minutes anoter half. works very well.

 

[somedud]

I took 2 mg klonopin before my last roll, didn't help with anything IMO, I was wirey and anxious as shyt..