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Benzos What will my withdrawal be like if any?

kanyeknievel said:
i have to find a good psych to do this then cause i cant tell my GP cuz then he will know ive been lying to him for the past few months for more kpins cuz he prescribes me 90 .5mg a month and i only take 30. so i need to find a psych soon that wont just prescribe me a bunch a shit and listen to me and help me get off of them
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Yes the first step in getting off benzos is having a doctor that understands the need for a very slow taper rate that the patient controls. You may not even need a psychiatrist...a regular doctor who understands your situation and wants to help can be equally effective. In fact, some psychs might tell you that you are insane and that anybody can be taken off their benzos in 2-4 weeks. Read the stories out there. Most psychiatrists are CLUELESS about benzos and what they do to us.
 
kanyeknievel said:
Thank you Chompy.

Also thank you Citiokid for the hope. My phsyc teacher suprisingly had the same exact thing when i talked to him about it. he smoked a shit ton at the same age, lasted a few years he said n shit. u didnt take any medication or anything did you citio? Just wondering what worked for you. Therapy, distraction, business are what help and have been helping me. i just want to get off medication, i feel thats what i need to do
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I didn't take any medications.

It just kind of went away when I went to boarding school and got distracted, but there were a few things I did that made it much better, and eventually go away entirely.

People with DP (including myself five years ago) all seem to have the same obsession with feeling "normal" and are convinced their DP is permanent and will never end. They have little hope while in the grips of DP and suffer every second of the day wishing desperately to feel okay again.

That way of thinking is what creates the DP, and what sustains it. Anxiety and DP go hand in hand.

So if you eliminate the anxiety, your quality of life will increase immedietely, as DP isn't what makes you feel bad, its the anxiety that it causes. Once the anxiety is gone, you notice it starts to fade away. And before you know it, you realize you just spent a whole week clear headed and DP free.

I know how bad it sucks, but let me be 100% honest with you - it DOES go away. It will stick with you as long as you are terrified of it, so you need to stop being afraid of it.

Also, avoid spending hours cruising the internet reading stories about people with DP. All that will do is scare the shit out of you. The people who focus on the DP and post online will continue to have it.

Good luck to you! I'm sending you positive energy to help get you through this difficult time. but I promise, you'll be fine. Your life is not over, it's just beginning.

PM me if you wanna talk more.

Peace.
 
<snip>Midazolam 5mg was my favourite, but after a couple IM shots I would black out but keep taking the drug. I'd wake up the next day with blood all over the walls from trying to IV in a blackout state, and 8 vials of the 5mg midazolam would be gone. Lucky for me it's difficult to OD on it.

Sleeping every night generally required about 15 diazepam or a like dose of another benzo. I did that for about a year.

I went into detox and was weaned off of diazepam. I stuck to the schedule (which was about a two-week taper) and it was easy for me. I'm not saying it'll be easy for others, but having been through opiate withdrawal several times kicking that valium habit was a walk in the park for me. I even slept the night I went to zero (which does NOT happen when I detox on opiates).
 
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Are benzo's really worth getting wd's for? I mean..if you like to be mellow and relaxed, surely a responsible dose of some opiates would do the tricks?
Also, this might be just personal, but where as benzo's make me loose any will or desire, opiates makes me wanna live life more...makes me want to hang out with people, makes me creative.
 
i started at 10mg phenazepam and 5mg clonazepam a day and tapered down .5mg/month until i was at 1mg/day clonaz and i was expecting a script for .5mg/day and he just sent me on my way and said come back in 2 weeks and we will see how you are doing without the benzos.. so i had to stop at 1mg/day and am currently withdrawing (mind you i just got off subs a month and a half ago also) so i feel pretty shitty overall even tho opiate w/d's are completely over and have been for a while. I'm glad my house is empty so it is just me and my little kitty (shes actually 11 but still a kitty) lol so me and her are surviving and she keeps me happy and makes me feel better. ahh the power of cat.
 
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AnrBjotk said:
Are benzo's really worth getting wd's for? I mean..if you like to be mellow and relaxed, surely a responsible dose of some opiates would do the tricks?
Also, this might be just personal, but where as benzo's make me loose any will or desire, opiates makes me wanna live life more...makes me want to hang out with people, makes me creative.
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opiates during benzo w/d can cause a seizure.. although it is rare but opiates do slightly lower the seizure threshold which is bad during benzo w/d.


EDIT: I'm a hypocrite though because i just did that exact thing.. used bupe to help suffering from k pin w/d.. had no seizure.. but still there is a *possibility* one could occur.
 
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Hey guys I go to my Phsyc tommorow. Who is precribing me Cymbalta and Suboxone currently. He wants to put me on Lyrica and I don't want to be on that. I'm currently on Clonzapem from my GP. What should I say to him when I go there and tell him I want to taper off of benzos? Should I mention a certain benzo I want to try to taper with, or what should I do? I don't think tapering with JUST clonzepam over a long time will work, i've tried going even a tiny bit lower and I cant really do it.
 
OP: yes drop down to .25mg and no need to worry. at those doses, the w/d is more psychological than physical
 
Gormur said:
OP: yes drop down to .25mg and no need to worry. at those doses, the w/d is more psychological than physical
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Yes but I had a lot of pyscological problems currently and I tried that and it was too much to bear with right now. I'm going to my phsyc tommorow. What is the best way to do this? I've heard valium is good with clonazepam when tapering down because of valiums long halflife. But is thag the best way? It sounds appealing to me but I don't want to sound like a drug seeker cuz he put me on suboxone last week and I've been staying clean but I'm clearly an addict/abuser so I think straigyt up saying I want valium n kpin wouldn't work too well. But if that's the best way how should I go about approaching him with the idea or suggesting it?
 
I printed out this and I'm going to show him tommorow. I am also bringing my dad, because with my dad there agreeing with what I say and everything, I won't look like a drug seeker(which I am not trying to be). He will be there to say he will give me my medication as prescribed and hold onto it ( which he has been doing with my suboxone).

Hopefully this works. I think the diazepam is the best method

http://www.non-benzodiazepines.org.uk/clonazepam.html
 
So he gave me 24 10mg valium today, said to take 20mg a day for two weeks, then go down to 14 i think? or something like that a day. not sure i gotta look again but is switching from clonzepam to valium safe? I dont want to feel any withdrawal or anything like that from switching over. I only take .5 clonazepam a day, so should i take only 10mg in the morning?
 
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