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Fight_the_Sunrise

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Ok so I've been raving and rolling for about a year now. I tend to go to the big raves every 2 months or so, but in between them, I go to the small events in local cities.


I love to dance and add names to the list of DJ's I've seen live, but is it wrong that I choose to roll about 90% of the time??


Again, I've only been doing this for a year now, so I really wouldn't know what is the right amount.


Please some feedback... :)
 
Welcome to Bluelight- thank you for paying attention to out guidelines and not mentioning event names.

Here is a thread that's quite active on the topic here: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=558601

I find that MDMA cannot be your go-to drug for every time you go out, simply because it's uniquely depleting of serotonin (which many studies/reports suggest takes at least 30 days to replenish) and the margin for abuse is easy to go over. I think we all have done it before we knew better- it's called the "honeymoon phase" for a reason. If you don't know any better, MDMA seems like a great idea every time you go out, even though everything about how it effects your chemical levels indicates it should be a special occasion drug.

Alex Shulgin himself has repeatedly said that he thinks 4x a year is an appropriate amount, so you'll find that most users who have prolonged use with MDMA tend to (eventually) space between Shulgin's suggestion, and the 30 day minimum rule. I space between 90-30 days (my last break was 8 months though) myself- I rarely cheat that rule.

I tend to be rather firm about making the point to people abusing MDMA that it's much, much better to hold back before you find out how crappy it can make you feel- slow down while you're ahead.

You'll also find a lot of info in the directory on spacing (in my signature).
 
In my experience, occasional cheating on the 30 day minimum rule is okay as long you don't make a habit out of it and you make sure to take longer breaks after breaking the 30 day rule.

So if you roll twice in the span of 4 weeks, make sure to take a 2-3 month break after your second roll. 3 months breaks are even better, but that can be difficult to stick to if you and your group of friends are into 'the scene'.
 
Well May 21st will be exactly 1 year... so basically its only been 10 months.

I've rolled about 17x altogether. So is that bad or what? LoL.

Thanks for the feedback everyone, greatly appreciated. :)
 
haha yeah 17x in 10 months is WAY too much.

out of curiousity is it still fun when you roll?
 
it's most definitely still fun when he rolls! are you kidding i rolled way more than 17 times in my first year... by the end i was retarded, but nevertheless it was still fun. you should really stop now man.. you are at that point where if you keep doing it, one of these times it will be toooooo much and you'll end up regretting it.

don't learn the hard way like many of us have.
 
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Its wrong that you choose to roll when you know the consequences.. isn't ignorance bliss. But as we all know who've abused it, it's fun as hell during that binge... 90% of the time.
 
The "safe" way to roll is 4-5 rolls in a year at the most. (I use the word safe in this way because MDMA is a drug, and using it at all probably isn't considered "safe." There are always risks when it comes to taking any kind of drug, legal or not. The real safe way would be to not roll at all, but that's probably not going to happen.)

That being said, most people who use MDMA want to do it more often than 4-5 times a year, so my advice would be to wait 30 days between rolls AT THE VERY MINIMUM. Shoot for waiting 3 months unless there's some kind of special event going on. You're less likely to lose MDMA's "magic" and less likely to build a tolerance. Plus it makes MDMA more amazing if you make yourself wait for it, it just makes it more special :)

And just out of curiosity, how much molly/pills do you take now compared to when you first started? And how long do your rolls last?
 
If you overdue it you will for sure experience the nasty side effects that come along with the ride. You don't want to become and E tard its really not fun. I suspect alot of my problems I have now, like 5 years later, are directly related to the amount of ecstasy I used to do, not to mention all the other drugs. I feel that E is the most damaging, when comparing to like mushrooms or acid. Even though acid did fuck me up after a while. Good luck and take breaks.
 
Thank u all for the comments. I will definately space my rolls more apart. Like 1 of u said, I don't wanna learn the hard way.

& the question about how many pills I take now frm when I started...
Well when I started, only half was good enough for me and that was the best high ever.
But now I can take up 8-10 a night and the effects frm 1 pill only lasts about an hour or 2. Unless I'm drinking alcohol, it'll last for hours. That one day I was high for a whole day off 4 pills. But thats because I was drinking. Wierd. LoL.
 
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