A Small Dose of DOx (DOC, DOI etc)

[Mario_x86_64]

I can obtain some tabs but I am not sure whether or not they are LSD or DOx, it is highly likely they are LSD. But truth is with out trying them first It may be wrong.

I am planning on taking less than half a tab just to test out what the tabs are. I will be able to identify if they are LSD since I have done that before.

Would half a tab of DOx cause me to stay up for 24 hours like a normal dose?

 

[PsiloSubNaut]

You will be able to taste the DO* if it is present. It has a strong, bitter, metallic, chemical taste that can't be hidden.

Even a small dose of DO* eg. 1mg will last some 16 hours.

If it's bitter, it's a spitter

 

[Mario_x86_64]

I am pretty "n00b" to LSD, so I thought I would ask since it is related.

Does pretty much all blotter laid with LSD taste the same?

I have heard before that DOx has a strong bitter taste, I was hoping it would be strong enough that if I ever come across it I can easily identify it as not being LSD.

 

[PsiloSubNaut]

LSD has no taste in the amounts that are laid onto blotter, active doses are barely visible with the naked eye and this is the only reason it can fit onto blotter paper in the first place. If there is a taste, it will either be the blotter paper, the ink used for the design or another chemical all together. The latter is very rare, even with the explosion of potent research chemicals, with doses that are able to fit onto a tab, the amount of tainted blotter is quite small.

If you are scared that you may have purchased blotter laid with a research chemical such as one of the DO*'s, just cut the corner off the tab (5% will suffice) and taste test it. It has an unmistakeable taste and trying a sample of this size will not have any noticeable psychoactive effects.

Most LSD blotter has no taste and very rarely you will get LSD tabs which have a very mild taste due to the ink or paper used in it's manufacture. I would be wary of anything that has more than a very mild taste, especially if it is bitter and chemical.

DO* tabs are extremely easy to distinguish from LSD tabs by taste alone, it is impossible to not taste it's bitterness unless you have a serious problem with your sense of taste.

 

[hatecubed]

I have received DOx tabs on three different occasions (three different blotters, too) - and each time, I noticed that the paper seemed thicker than LSD tabs I got. Is this just a co-incidence?

 

[PsiloSubNaut]

It's no co-incidence. The thicker blotter is needed to be able to fit the less potent DO* chemicals onto the blotter. The average dose of DO* on blotter is about 2mg whereas LSD is only a fraction of this at about 40-100ug (yes, larger doses of LSD are laid but, it's a rarity on mass produced blotter now days).

There are roughly 500 doses in every gram of DO* and 10,000 doses in every gram of LSD. This is why DO* blotter tends to be thicker and also larger in every over all dimension when compared to LSD blotter.

 

[ektamine]

Be very, very careful with if you get DOI. I don't know the dosages for the other DOx members, but I know that DOI is around 1mg. A friend of mine once accidentally under-measured a bunch of doses he was selling/giving away around my city, almost everyone he gave it to tripped uncomfortably (some severely) for well over 24 hours.

 

[titstypedthis]

having gone through a gram of DOM dissolved in water, i have a few points too make.


Trying to guess if your blotter is dox or not by the taste is extremely futile.

if its got ink on it, that may be the taste, if its white, whatever they used to bleach it may be the taste..


substances in water tend to have a stronger taste than the dry powder..

now when i took even upto 5mls or 15-20mg of DOM, it was extremely mild, like you knew there was something in the water, but even the most sensitive palate wouldnt cringe from tasting it.

If your blotter has an extremely sharp chemical taste, chances are its a 2c rather than DOx.




Really, i dont understand the concern with DOx vs lsd.
sure long trips can be uncomfortable, but most DOx (excluding DOB) are really quite mild after 14 hours at blotter dosages(2-3mg), no worse than actual lsd's afterglow.

And if you're taking lsd, honestly, you should prepare yourself for anything.

i find it incredibly weak when "H4rDc0rE xpieranst trippers" blame the drug, whatever it is, for their bad trip.

 

[Mario_x86_64]

I did cut off a small bit of it and put it under my tongue, lost it quickly after though .. Did have a bit of a bitter taste in my mouth.

Either way will use them *sometime* .. so I will post about in the ID thread whether or not they are DOI.

I am tempted to cut another piece off and taste again, but I am not wanting to dose myself with DOI. I ****ing hate anyone that sells DOI as LSD.

Luckily I did stop to post on BlueLight before dosing otherwise I could have made quite a bit mistake. 16 hours is a bit too much for me ...

 

[belarki]

And if you're taking lsd, honestly, you should prepare yourself for anything.

i find it incredibly weak when "H4rDc0rE xpieranst trippers" blame the drug, whatever it is, for their bad trip.

^ I'd have to strongly disagree. If you're expecting LSD you should be prepared for an LSD trip. Not some other chemical. What if you're well experienced with LSD, take several tabs, and it turns out they were bromo-dragonfly?

DO* tabs should be sold as such, not as LSD blotters.

 

[PsiloSubNaut]

Be very, very careful with if you get DOI. I don't know the dosages for the other DOx members, but I know that DOI is around 1mg. A friend of mine once accidentally under-measured a bunch of doses he was selling/giving away around my city, almost everyone he gave it to tripped uncomfortably (some severely) for well over 24 hours.

The average person will need more than 1mg of DOI for a proper trip. Most people aren't fully immersed until they take 2-3mg.

Your friend sounds like many other greedy idiots that have fucked up the dosages of these chemicals and sent people on hectic trips, so that they can make a profit. Don't risk other peoples sanity to fill your wallet. It's simple primary school math after all 8)

Trying to guess if your blotter is dox or not by the taste is extremely futile.

If its got ink on it, that may be the taste, if its white, whatever they used to bleach it may be the taste..


substances in water tend to have a stronger taste than the dry powder..

now when i took even upto 5mls or 15-20mg of DOM, it was extremely mild, like you knew there was something in the water, but even the most sensitive palate wouldnt cringe from tasting it.

If your blotter has an extremely sharp chemical taste, chances are its a 2c rather than DOx.

I strongly disagree with your post.

When the chemical is suspended in a liquid it may not seem strong on the palate but, when it is crystal or on a tab I can assure you that it will have a strong taste. Saying that a watered down substance tastes stronger just doesn't make any sense at all. People water down pure alcohol for a reason, same goes for DO*'s and many other chemicals. Your liquid solution of DOM would have a weaker taste than the pure crystal, period..

The difference between the taste of either ink or blotter paper in comparison to a blotter laid with DO* are huge to say the least.

Due to the differences in potency between 2C's and DO*'s it is extremely rare to find any of the 2C chemicals laid on blotter. When they are laid in this fashion, you need to consume a large amount of paper before you get any decent effect. On average, DO*'s are in the vicinity of 10x the potency of 2C's. For this reason, 2C's are almost never laid and sold as blotter but, they have been sold as 2C-* laced paper over the years, on much larger than tab size dosages.

^ I'd have to strongly disagree. If you're expecting LSD you should be prepared for an LSD trip. Not some other chemical. What if you're well experienced with LSD, take several tabs, and it turns out they were bromo-dragonfly?

DO* tabs should be sold as such, not as LSD blotters.

Agreed

 

[ektamine]

The average person will need more than 1mg of DOI for a proper trip. Most people aren't fully immersed until they take 2-3mg.

Your friend sounds like many other greedy idiots that have fucked up the dosages of these chemicals and sent people on hectic trips, so that they can make a profit. Don't risk other peoples sanity to fill your wallet. It's simple primary school math after all 8)

Around 1mg vs. 1-3mg. O noes. And yes I know he was stupid in doing this, I was one of the first to inform him of that.

 

[PsiloSubNaut]

Around 1mg vs. 1-3mg. O noes.

The differences between 1mg and 3mg are extreme.

1mg= very mild, mainly stimulant type effect

2mg= notable psychedelia (this is enough for some people to be fully immersed)

3mg= full blown mind manifesting trip

Personally, I never got much from any of the DO* class of drugs until I took 4+mg but, I found this to be less than common, with most people being quite content with between 2-3mg.

 

[titstypedthis]

^ I'd have to strongly disagree. If you're expecting LSD you should be prepared for an LSD trip. Not some other chemical. What if you're well experienced with LSD, take several tabs, and it turns out they were bromo-dragonfly?

DO* tabs should be sold as such, not as LSD blotters.

Then you're an idiot.


Sorry i suppose that part of my post could have been worded better, i mean if you take a single tab and it turns out to be DOx, freaking out over that little fact will only be your demise.

DOx are party drugs, there is no reason to fear their effects, relax, enjoy yourself, you'll probably enjoy it more than lsd.

I strongly disagree with your post.

When the chemical is suspended in a liquid it may not seem strong on the palate but, when it is crystal or on a tab I can assure you that it will have a strong taste. Saying that a watered down substance tastes stronger just doesn't make any sense at all. People water down pure alcohol for a reason, same goes for DO*'s and many other chemicals. Your liquid solution of DOM would have a weaker taste than the pure crystal, period..

concentrated liquids have a far stronger taste than the crystal on its own, because natural saliva acts to block the taste buds when a strong chemical is dissolving in it.
While the concentrated liquid will disperse the saliva

dilute liquids ofcourse are quite weak.

Alcohol is a poor comparison because it is already a liquid, and its not the taste but the burn that causes its distastefulness.

 

[Divine Moments]

Really, i dont understand the concern with DOx vs lsd.
sure long trips can be uncomfortable, but most DOx (excluding DOB) are really quite mild after 14 hours at blotter dosages(2-3mg), no worse than actual lsd's afterglow.

Personally, I can't sleep for many hours longer after taking dox than lsd.

Then you're an idiot.


Sorry i suppose that part of my post could have been worded better, i mean if you take a single tab and it turns out to be DOx, freaking out over that little fact will only be your demise.

DOx are party drugs, there is no reason to fear their effects, relax, enjoy yourself, you'll probably enjoy it more than lsd.

I have to agree with belarki on this, it's not pleasant when you're expecting one chemical and get a different one (with quite different effects and duration). Especially so for people who are busy and have to schedule very infrequent trips around everything else. I've never had a bad trip because of this, but it has pissed me off

IME, most people prefer lsd to dox.

 

[titstypedthis]

most people prefer lsd to dox.

why?

 

[Jakeperson]

Sure, freaking out because you have DOx isn't going to help but the side effect profile is huge compared to LSD.

I wouldn't go so far as to call them party drugs, they can be fun occasionally but more often than not they are an unwanted trip.

Also, the vaso-consrtiction provided by DOx can be dangerous for some people. A girl I know has epileptic fits 3-4 times through out taking a DOx, none during a LSD trip so far.

 

[heythatsmybike]

You have to ask why people prefere LSD to DOx's? Maybe you've never actually had LSD if that's the case. LSD has meaning and reasoning behind every experience. To say you like DOXs better is like saying you prefere to shit I the redback infested outhouse which is further to get to and fro, rather than using my gold plated self heating shitter that has complimentry "happy" tunes to aid your comfort.

Also, be nice. No need to call people idiots.

 

[belarki]

I've just unapproved a post and several referring to it. Just a note to the poster in question that if you can't show at least some common decency and consideration towards others then Bluelight is not the place for you and you will not find yourself welcomed here. This is a harm reduction forum after all -.-

 

[titstypedthis]

You have to ask why people prefere LSD to DOx's? Maybe you've never actually had LSD if that's the case. LSD has meaning and reasoning behind every experience. To say you like DOXs better is like saying you prefere to shit I the redback infested outhouse which is further to get to and fro, rather than using my gold plated self heating shitter that has complimentry "happy" tunes to aid your comfort.

oh i've had lsd before.

meaning and reasoning behind every experience
how do you figure?


DOx is more euphoric and pliable, you're in the drivers seat rather than taking a ride..

lol is your mind in the shitter?