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Now let's discuss Hydrocodone

achille1

achille1

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Let's see, I asked a question earlier about the use of Oxy and now I must ask about Hydrocodone. Again, I must add I have no tolerance and weigh about 120-130 pounds. How much of a dose would be enough for a first time user? I read some articles on here and someone mentioned 20-30 mgs. Is this a good dose? Or...?
 
Well, looking at your previous posts, you really have no tolerance at all. For hydrocodone, a dose that high might may you feel a bit sick at first, 15mg or so may be a good place to start (perhaps even 10). You can always take more, but you can't take less.

When you say 120-130 lbs, I mean weight doesn't matter much in this case as long as you're about average size....gender doesn't matter in this case, but are you male or female?
 
15mg is the sweet spot. Some need 20mg. Hydrocodone is a beautiful starter opiate compared to codeine simply because there is no ceiling, and you can escalate the dose as you please with the right preparation. (Cold water extraction)
 
Cold water extraction isn't really an option at this moment. So, based on everyone's advice, about 15mg should work?
 
Yeah, 15 mg.

When you say it is not an option at this moment... Is saving your liver not an option at this moment?

You are fine for now. But in the future when higher doses are to be taken, you will need to get rid of that acetaminophen, or your liver is history.
 
When I said that, I just meant that I am not prepared. As you said, if I do plan on higher doses, I will definitely shoot for cold water extraction and if I need assistance, I know where to turn to!
 
achille1 said:
Male.
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Okay, I was curious because I'm a female on the lower side of that weight range, and know that even after taking it on an increasingly often level for pain, 10mg takes care of business for me. Doses of 15-20mg are doing more than just pain relief, really for me. I'd also beware of nausea, you'll hear about how it's more effective on an empty stomach but I seem prone to nausea on even the smallest doses, so eating a little something beforehand might be a good idea.

And Psychedelic Jay, I actually had a paradoxical reaction to codeine which kept me up all night and very anxious, but hydrocodone and oxycodone (dilaudid was quite nice that one time at the ER as well) don't do this. I feel like due to my own experience I'd recommend hydrocodone over codeine any day.
 
Hydrocodone is great, wish I never went and screwed up my tolerance with stronger opiates. After being on Subs I think it's going to take a long time to be able to feel them (hydrocodone) again. I have four norcos that I can't take cause it'd be a waste. Someday....

Vicodin was my first opiate experience and I loved it, in hindsight it was as good as any opie experience since. All the more reason not to escalate your doses and not to get addicted!
 
purple_cloud said:
...And Psychedelic Jay, I actually had a paradoxical reaction to codeine which kept me up all night and very anxious, but hydrocodone and oxycodone don't do this. I feel like due to my own experience I'd recommend hydrocodone over codeine any day.
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Exactly. The paradoxical reaction most likely stemmed from the histamine release.
Even if you don't feel the codeine, it still releases histamine which is why you get anxious and aroused (not sexually) for the duration of the codeine in your system.

Synthetic and semi-synthetics are less likely to cause such a reaction...
 
10mgs JUST TO BE SAFE. 15mgs is pretty sweet.

You can always just take 10mgs to start with and if you feel like you can go up after an hour, take another 5mgs.
 
I don't think 10 mg is always too low for everyone, but I would recommend 15 mg.
 
Just remember, the first dose is the one that you ride. Subsequent doses are just 'chasing the dragon', per say. It won't 'hit you' again after that. It just extends the experience, so you want to dose the first time just right.
 
15mg is really the best for first time imo. 10mg can still be good though atleast for me. You may feel very sick after taking 15mg though. Thats what happened to me
 
TheTwighlight said:
Just remember, the first dose is the one that you ride. Subsequent doses are just 'chasing the dragon', per say. It won't 'hit you' again after that. It just extends the experience, so you want to dose the first time just right.
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That is correct. You won't get the same feeling you got from the first dose of the day. You can continue to double or triple your dose but you won't feel anything like you did those first 4 hours. It is sort of a waste. So what you do is get yourself some sleep and the following day take it again at your dose of choosing. But whatever dose that is, it will be the most powerful.
 
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