My favorite effect of LSD... "Holographic web of cause and effect"

[PROZ4C]

I was thinking about this and finally came up with a label / way to describe what I generally always get to experience usually during every LSD trip.

I call it the "holographic web of cause and effect"

When I am turned on, and tuned it to the Albert Hoffman express I have always been lucky enough to see my entire life from the first sparks of memory in early childhood to present day with a metaphorically speaking crystal clear, x-ray, microscope and microscope, high-definition lens of the mind.

To put it simply, I can easily recall every choice in my life, and see the cause and effect it had on a micro and macro level.

Things I would never be aware of while in a sober state of mind.

It's beautiful and a great tool for reflection, and learning.

I would be very surprised if there is anyone who has used LSD who doesn't know exactly what I am talking about.

For that reason and many others I hope all you awesome folks who are yet to dance with lucy happen to stumble upon some super potent doses in the near future.

Peace, love, and happy tripping to all.

 

[bluegreenman]

this saturday I will be enlightened :D

 

[PriestTheyCalledHim]

That's never happened to me on LSD even at high doses, moderate doses, and low doses but I've had something like it happen on a ++++ experience with mushrooms.

 

[construct]

Very cool. Just wanted to point out that there is a powerful metaphor in Buddhism called Indra's Net, which is based on the Buddhist concept of co-dependent arising. Indra's Net is an infinite network of thread that contains a gem at each intersecting node of the web. Every gem is a mirror that reflects every other gem within the matrix. Experience and causes are therefore reflected and reciprocated infinitely in an interconnected whole.

Just wanted to share this because it uncannily similar to your experience!

 

[Sega420]

i had a rather unnerving and soul disturbing "discovery" on acid last month.
"discovered" the universe is a hologram. freaked me the fuck out. felt slightly cheated n disappointed that it "wasnt organic and naturally here of itself" or something.
but at the same time impressed and blown away.

google "universe hologram"

 

[mesial]

Ive never taken LSD but have had this effect when taking mushrooms. Every critical moment of my past is extremely apparent and I would look at my decisions not as right or wrong but as a beautiful collective of possible alternatives that have occured in this particular fashion to bring me to where I am today. It was really beneficial for me and one of my most memorable experiences! Glad to hear you describe this!

 

[Gormur]

Never had that. My ego shuts down. I just dissociate and get lost in the beautiful tapestry of patterns

During a trip it seem i'm the observer but at the same time i don't exist. Rather i'm merely a part of the puzzle that makes up the universe

 

[SpinOutOfControl]

^awesome

 

[Tunnelfission]

I recall being able to access something I called at the time "infinite memory" where I could review my past like a grid that I could scale in different axis. Possibly the same phenomenon?

 

[f1ct]

Very cool. Just wanted to point out that there is a powerful metaphor in Buddhism called Indra's Net, which is based on the Buddhist concept of co-dependent arising. Indra's Net is an infinite network of thread that contains a gem at each intersecting node of the web. Every gem is a mirror that reflects every other gem within the matrix. Experience and causes are therefore reflected and reciprocated infinitely in an interconnected whole.

Just wanted to share this because it uncannily similar to your experience!

Yes, this. I'd always heard it called interdependent co-arising, or just simply, "This is because that is."

It is a beautiful thought and its realization is sometimes precipitated by psychedelics.

 

[Solipsis]

It's incredibly beautiful but at the same time it doesn't change anything. Let me put it this way: what is different about calling the universe a hologram? What did you think it to be before?
The answer I would give myself is: I didn't think all that much of it.

Not that I am trying to contradict anyone here, but realizing something does not necessarily imply that you had a real idea of something before.

Something that did change for me was the concept of God. I never believed in traditional, dogmatic revelation definitions of God, but very similar to experiencing the universe as a meta-web or a hologram I also came to believe that it is identical to God as well. Many people doubt the existence of God but few people doubt the existence of the universe. It doesn't change all that much about the universe, but it does make this whole concept of God less magical and special.
And I don't think it is that special, I think it is very normal. Having an expanded consciousness that feels unbound much like the universe is said to be, it does FEEL special, yes. But to me God is not really supernatural and the concept of a hologram not that revolutionary, it fits together and makes sense but nothing is deeply changed except maybe your outlook on things. People placing God all the way 'out there' need to grow up in my opinion. It's right here and it always has been.

 

[f1ct]

It's incredibly beautiful but at the same time it doesn't change anything. Let me put it this way: what is different about calling the universe a hologram? What did you think it to be before?
The answer I would give myself is: I didn't think all that much of it.

I think using the hologram as a metaphor for interdependent co-arising is a bit weak. In any case, what changes as a result of this belief arising? I think it changes you, the way you see "the other," and deepens your understanding of the world. If it doesn't change your action, it will change your feelings, and hey, that's pretty nice.

 

[Solipsis]

Oh yes well I agree and I think my post may have come out a bit different than I intended. What I meant to say is that it is not that revolutionary to me as an invention that is transferable by explaining it. Some things you just have to see for yourself and it is indeed grand if it transforms you for good (i.e. goodness I don't really mean 'forever').

If we are talking about invention then in some ways modern science seems to be reinventing old Eastern wisdom. Some might use the terms 'karma', 'dharma' and 'Brahman' for web of causation or hologram.