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Joint Rolling - European vs. American Methods

When you say roach are you talking about the paper tips you roll to act like a filter? You wont see most americans using them b/c they are very hard to find in the states. I ended up bringing a bunch back. One of the things I enjoyed when going to the coffee shops when I lived in Holland was they give you tips and papers for free.
 
Before the semantic confusion goes any further:
Americans do not, for the most part, use a rolled-up piece of card as a filter tip (what Europeans call a "roach"). To an American "roach" still means the end of the joint, but it weed all the way to the end. IME, most Americans aren't even familiar with the practice.

btw, in the UK it's more common to use Rizla packets or another source of card rather than buying a purpose-made roachbook.
 
I dunno, in the circle of friends I grew up with must have been European-influenced at some level because cone joints with cardboard "filters" (what they're usually called instead of roaches here) were the norm. I haven't seen this practice anywhere else though, so I'm sure the practice was spread from overseas. This type of joint is the most efficient IME.
 
It's less harsh, it doesn't get soggy, it gives your joint structure, it means you don't waste weed...it's the way forward.
 
Damien said:
As in re-rolling them into a new joint?
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Sorry I forget everything means something different halfway across the world. >_<

Umm what Yerg said sums it up, a small piece of paper/card rolled up to act as a filter. Just wondered why americans don't seem to do it as much? It's the standard over here.


+ What do you do with the end of your spliffs? no way you smoke it all, lip burner much :P
 
^^^^ Ah, yes. They're popular here in Southern California. We call them "Crutches" though.

btw, in the UK it's more common to use Rizla packets or another source of card rather than buying a purpose-made roachbook.
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We use business cards.
 
you take the end of it (what we call the roach) and break it up with a bunch of other roaches, and roll yourself a generation joint.

i almost never use a filter, idk if it's true or not but i heard some of the thc will condense on it and you lose thc. i've done i a couple times when i don't have enough weed for a whole joint and still wanna smoke a fatty, tho.

i used to kick it with a turkish chick that lived in germany, she always rolled it like a tootsie roll. real real fat in the middle, about as long as the middle segment of my ring finger, and twisted up on either end. had to tear off a twist to smoke it lol.

i always roll it the same length all the way across, but i use a rolling machine cause i haven't been able to roll a joint by hand yet.
 
Thought it was something like that, bet people have been known to drop the roachy end bit into a bowl as well?

Sounds a bit grim to me, i've re-rolled a half smoked spliff before and it didn't taste amazing, but I ain't tried it so ain't knocking it lol.

Glad this thread stayed open it's pretty interesting, & assphace the longer you use that machine the longer you won't be able to roll, we all started somewhere and put up with months of shitty joints. :P
 
Sounds a bit grim to me, i've re-rolled a half smoked spliff before and it didn't taste amazing, but I ain't tried it so ain't knocking it lol.
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I've read (and believe, but can't verify) that it will get you more high. This is because all of the resin left behind by the smoke passing the cannabis from the front of the joint. The point, like assphace said, is to collect enough of them (American style, without tobacco) to roll a whole joint.

Thought it was something like that, bet people have been known to drop the roachy end bit into a bowl as well?
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All the time for me. Sans paper of course.
 
The resinous "roach" will definitely get you more high but I don't like the practice (I'm American by the way) because it is gross and I like the taste of pure fresh green (another reason I don't like a lot of paper or tobacco).

I learned of the "british roach" or filters as I always called them from reading online when I was like 16 and thought the idea was genius. I use the filter often but sometimes don't have anything with me to make into a filter especially if I've already exhausted the cardboard from my pack of rolling papers.

I hate blunts! Especially flavored wraps... fucking gross. I hate that artificial flavor shit sprayed on a piece of cardboard. To me that is ultra ghetto, and most of the potheads that I know that smoke very decent bud wouldn't dare taint their precious flowers with some nasty fake flavoring and cardboard.
 
As an american I roll cone shaped joints including a "crutch," this results in no "roach" whatsoever, just a piece of cardboard wrapped in paper. Why would I want to waste weed? If I need to result in gathering together fragments of past smoke sessions then it's time for me to restock.
I also tear little pieces from the cover of my rolling paper pack and roll it up to make the crutch. I don't need pre made tips for that since it's really not that hard. Works like a charm every time. I dare someone to roll a nicer one.
 
Newbierock said:
Thought it was something like that, bet people have been known to drop the roachy end bit into a bowl as well?

Sounds a bit grim to me, i've re-rolled a half smoked spliff before and it didn't taste amazing, but I ain't tried it so ain't knocking it lol.

Glad this thread stayed open it's pretty interesting, & assphace the longer you use that machine the longer you won't be able to roll, we all started somewhere and put up with months of shitty joints. :P
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I live in the midwest of the usa and we never roll tobacco with weed. I have almost never seen those cardboard filtermouthpeices but thats just cause noone takes the time to roll them in. We usually smoke out of pipes but when we smoke joints we take the roach and put it in the carb hole of a pipe like a real fancy roach clip, cover the bowl so you can get suction and hit it till its all gone.
 
^Smart

I never thought of putting the roach in a carb.

Anyone ever see those papers that have a really thin wire running the length of it so when you burn it the wire sticks out in front so you can grab it as a roach clip?
 
I always tear a piece off from the j paper package and make a filter out of it, keeps the mouthpiece good throughout and eliminates roaches.
 
What you are talking about in perticular is what I would call an "L". A true "L", not a blunt as many people refer to blunts as. It's basically the practice of putting two papers together (or more) to make an L shape to roll with. If done correctly, the ending is cone shaped like you mentioned (starts small and gets fatter until the end). I like to smoke L's but usually reserve them for more weed than a joint, or with spliffs. I also use filters with the joints and L's I smoke, it just makes sense. Paper preference? King size zig zags. The best. Fairly sure they use them to roll joints for dispensaries.
 
I Eat Pho said:
^Smart

I never thought of putting the roach in a carb.

Anyone ever see those papers that have a really thin wire running the length of it so when you burn it the wire sticks out in front so you can grab it as a roach clip?
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Randy's Rolling Papers.
 
yea for teh dude who asked, mofos just (IME, but me hasn't smoked many joints, other than putting weed in with tobacco in a legitimate rolling machine) throw the roach in a bowl
 
LSDMDMA&9420613 said:
yea for teh dude who asked, mofos just (IME, but me hasn't smoked many joints, other than putting weed in with tobacco in a legitimate rolling machine) throw the roach in a bowl
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oh god that sounds so disgusting.

In germany we roll with tobacco and cardboard filters, snobs may use active coal filters :D
Cone shaped joints are the way to go, most of the time the end just tastes disgusting, so you want as little weed as possible in that. Most of the time I even roll with a "tobacco base", covering the last centimeter before the filter.
 
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