MDPV Megathread 5: Waiting for Jesus to show up

[breakcorefiend]

Not saying you should try it, but foil chasing/vaping is so foolishly easy that a 2-year-old mongoloid child with autism and parkinson's disease could do it .

Whos saying im not the last of the thalidomide generation? ok jokes, but yea i was more worried bout the fiendishness of it and knowing my tendency to push things as far as sanity allows i dont think itd do me any favours

 

[Dedbeet]

Whos saying im not the last of the thalidomide generation? ok jokes, but yea i was more worried bout the fiendishness of it and knowing my tendency to push things as far as sanity allows i dont think itd do me any favours

Yes, that's what everyone's saying; it would not do ya any favours. A lot of people are aware of that and buy it anyway, cuz... does any drug you buy to get high on do you any favours, really? Even the most legal and accepted drugs (nicotine and alcohol) do no one any favours, but are very popular anyway.

 

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hey what exactly is a heart attack suppose to feel like? i have some pain right on my coastal cartilage (rightish side), but it isn't constant, and depends on how i postition my back and how far i stick my chest out.

eta; cuz of mdpv, ya know. and i also slouch a lot,

 

[Dedbeet]

hey what exactly is a heart attack suppose to feel like? i have some pain right on my coastal cartilage (rightish side), but it isn't constant, and depends on how i postition my back and how far i stick my chest out.

eta; cuz of mdpv, ya know. and i also slouch a lot,

It's supposed to feel a lot worse than that. But if it continues or gets really intense (i.e. to the point you feel a need to lie still without moving) check in with a medic.

IME, most pains related to peevee are muscular in nature and from simply being tense or remaining in one position for too long... that can get surprisingly painful, as you lose awareness of it while on the drug. 99.999% of what happens on MDPV is not gonna kill or seriously damage you physically.

 

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has anyone else had a strange awareness of your clothes rubbing against your skin? like sometimes i think something is crawling on my arm, when i realize it's just my tshirt giving the sensation.

 

[caizar]

has anyone else had a strange awareness of your clothes rubbing against your skin? like sometimes i think something is crawling on my arm, when i realize it's just my tshirt giving the sensation.

Sounds like anxiety.

 

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i do feel ashamed of my laziness.

eta; well im not sure if that's it but w/e

 

[Shambles]

are you sure it's mostly dopaminergic? i'm not what you would call a healthy person, but i feel an obvious adrenalin rush on it

It was originally thought to be the only drug that works on dopamine and dopamine alone, from memory. That's been shown not to be quite the case now, I believe. It's still pretty much a pure dopamine hit to all intents and purposes though, I'd say.

Also, dopamine is a precursor to adrenaline and is converted to norepinephrine/noradrenaline in vivo, from my (limited) understanding of it.

Dedbeet: I disagree with it's uberdopaminegicism being a drawback. It's the big selling point for me and plenty others. It's the purity of a massive dopoverload that I want from it. I also stims with more serotonergic activity but if I want serotonin I'll choose something other than peev. Sometimes all I want is dopazenbliss though. It's definitely not a social drug but there are other drugs for socialising. Peev is definitely not one of them and isn't meant to be, in my opinion. It is what it is. And that's exactly what it should be.

 

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well then i'm definitely doing something wrong

 

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wait, i read all over message boards that the recreational effects of the drug are diminished for a lot of people cuz of it's high affinity for NET. if it doesn't have a high affinity for NET, then what are they experiencing?

 

[Shambles]

What is NET? Am not so good on chemistry stuff

 

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im not either. NET means norepinephrine transporter

 

[jblz]

Got a small amount of PV left and about 9,000 words worth of coursework to write by Monday. Should I or shouldn't I... the hardest decision of the month :D

 

[Dedbeet]

Dedbeet: I disagree with it's uberdopaminegicism being a drawback. It's the big selling point for me and plenty others. It's the purity of a massive dopoverload that I want from it. I also stims with more serotonergic activity but if I want serotonin I'll choose something other than peev. Sometimes all I want is dopazenbliss though. It's definitely not a social drug but there are other drugs for socialising. Peev is definitely not one of them and isn't meant to be, in my opinion. It is what it is. And that's exactly what it should be.

Never meant to suggest it was a drawback, just that I think it's responsible for all the complaints about peevee being "noneuphoric" or "a lame drug". Fwiw, I don't place it in either of those categories myself.

 

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wait so has your heartrate risen significantly while on it

 

[Dedbeet]

wait so has your heartrate risen significantly while on it

At times... and at other times seemed perfectly normal. If you can't forget about your body and are obsessing about your health while high on it, time to come down off it.

 

[Shambles]

Never meant to suggest it was a drawback, just that I think it's responsible for all the complaints about peevee being "noneuphoric" or "a lame drug". Fwiw, I don't place it in either of those categories myself.

Ahh. Misinterpreted your post. Would agree with that comment, for sure. I think people see all the comparisons made with crack and meth and assume it's the euphoria, stimulation and rush being compared rather than the tendency to have difficulty stopping once you have that first dose until you have none left.

---: My heartrate generally stays steady on peev. I'd even say it seems to feel pretty much just as a resting heartbeat. One of the reasons it's "probably the least stimulating stimulant" you'll ever come across. Other than desoxy which is seriously weird stuff in that respect. Paradoxically, peev can also be perceived as being horribly overstimulating by some. I find that it only gets that way when it's wearing off - feels like it dumps shitloads of adrenaline on the way out to me. When plateaued and steadily dosing it feels very smooth and relaxed to me. Not suggesting that redosing regularly is wise but for me it really does make it a very laid back experience. And gets progressively more chilled at around 48 hours into a run. Again, that's just my experience obviously.

Also, your name looks like an emoticon (possibly representing a penis) when I address you thus: ---:

 

[Dedbeet]

Paradoxically, peev can also be perceived as being horribly overstimulating by some. I find that it only gets that way when it's wearing off - feels like it dumps shitloads of adrenaline on the way out to me.

Could be dopamine depletion as well, which to me feels like a raw/painful agitation that tends to come in waves.

I used to find PV 'horribly overstimulating' but I guess eventually learned to recognize the difference between anxiety and overstimulation, and not let it get to me on a mental level. There's rarely any serious physical overstimulation, but "mental over-stimulation resulting in anxiety" can happen quite easily. The usual "OMG, I feel all tingly and might be having a heart attack" type stuff. It amazes me how many stim users I know that are very susceptible to that sort of thing.

 

[Treacle]

Yes, I'm sure... an adrenaline rush can also come from a mental feeling ('anxiety') that translates to physical. But it's not directly physical and is mostly dopaminergic... if it weren't, I'd probably be dead by now.

From the first page on Google, when you search (Wikipedia):

Methylenedioxypyrovalerone (MDPV) is a psychoactive drug with stimulant properties which acts as a norepinephrine-dopamine reuptake inhibitor (NDRI).

I thought this was common knowledge?

 

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shit, i had too much..

feels good, but my heart is getting brutally raped.