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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread - 2nd Dissociation

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pofacedhoe said:
its not about morals its about the grass factor- parents will take you to hospitals and professionals for your drug use much faster than a housemate would. simple logic, plus they worry more about your health than your friends do, i guarantee you. its not about respect its about understanding discretion. they can ignore all the signs but if your a screaming gurgling mess they cant delude themselves any longer and then its a big problem.

i just think that if you are at home with your mum take smaller doses. its not that hard to use less of a drug. i dont see why you need to hole every time. thats like the quivalent of getting drunk every time when many people chose to have only a couple of beers. do you see the distinction? cos there is definitely one there...
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It's not simple logic.. it's not that simple AT ALL... it would be simple logic if you had a choice.. he lives at home, he doesn't have multiple homes, he hadn't experienced mania from it before, he made the decision to do it thinking it was safe based on experience, and he got burned unexpectedly. I don't see the distinction, there would be a distinction if he knew that was going to happen, and if he had somewhere safer to do it... and I disagree with this idea that your parents would take you to hospitals and professionals quicker, a housemate/neighbor might call the police or doing somthing even more drastic, the risks are almost identical, and this is about where you feel safe doing these things.. his home was unfortunately his parents house. Also I don't think you've understood the posts so far about these drugs, a small dose could turn on you just as much as a large one, you seem to think this was a predictable event, haven't you read these posts? it was an as yet unknown side effect. It was not predictable, everything you said is based on the idea that he knew it was going to happen - he didn't, nobody here did... no guarantees - that's the whole point.

I'm not going to comment on this subject again..
 
JSPete said:
I've reached the end of the road for methoxetamine...


Yesterday I dosed 100mg at 8pm. Went to bed and went into the familiar methox-hole.

When I came to, I was in the back seat of a car getting driven to hospital. Apparently my parents had found me, screaming and wailing, tongue-rolling, foaming at the mouth, writhing in my bed. They had no idea what was happening and so had rushed me to hospital. I don't remember any of the screaming, all I remember is the drive to hospital. They admitted me and did routine tests. They hadn't heard of methoxetamine, but dealt with me like a ketamine patient.

I got discharged at 00:30, knowing full well I had just wasted A&E time and resources. I know I've made strange noises before on MXE, I can't control it when I do this, but I vaguely remember as I come down.

So my parents are clued up about my drug habits now. The doctor suggested I do some sort of rehabilitation programme since I've been using MXE almost daily for a few months now. I haven't flushed the rest away yet, but I can't go on using it for the love of my parents.

So yeah, goodbye MXE. You got me in the end.
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ill jump on the blame train and call you an idiot too.

I've done some weird/fucked up things on ket and mxe that I don't remember doing after, but it's always when I'm in a safe place with friends that know what's up so they can take care of anything I make a mess of.

for example, I started laughing hysterically apparently the other day and slapping beer bottles off my friends table so he held me down on the ground and I'm told I stuck my face right by his, stuck out my tounge and made a fart noise and starting cracking up.

dont remember any of it, but yeah dont do dissociatives around people you dont want to know you're doing them.

Learn from your mistake, and spread the word so your friends dont do the same thing and get on the news or something.
 
i took about 30mg sublingual 4hrs ago, then about 20mg 2hrs ago, made me feel kinda confused, walking around the apartment then, i decided its the go time, and weighted up 30mg again, now im just gonna sit here, look at the visualizer, listen to music in dark room, drink alot of water and hope ill be able to come back.
 
Amostheman said:
ill jump on the blame train and call you an idiot too.

I've done some weird/fucked up things on ket and mxe that I don't remember doing after, but it's always when I'm in a safe place with friends that know what's up so they can take care of anything I make a mess of.

for example, I started laughing hysterically apparently the other day and slapping beer bottles off my friends table so he held me down on the ground and I'm told I stuck my face right by his, stuck out my tounge and made a fart noise and starting cracking up.

dont remember any of it, but yeah dont do dissociatives around people you dont want to know you're doing them.

Learn from your mistake, and spread the word so your friends dont do the same thing and get on the news or something.
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I think the best possible course of action to take was to come straight to bluelight and honestly explain what happened in detail. Thousands of people are going to read this over the course of MXE's lifetime, and hopefully all of them will take this into account of their own use.
 
^^^^ Exactly. And that is, in and of itself, harm reduction at its finest. It would be great if everyone was informed, and made the correct and informed decisions every time. But that is not, and will not, ever, be the case. And that is why bluelight exists, so we can share the info, and learn from each others mistakes. So, JSPete, if it is any consolation, your woes will certainly help others in the future make better decisions.

Cheers <3
 
amanitadine said:
^^^^ Exactly. And that is, in and of itself, harm reduction at its finest. It would be great if everyone was informed, and made the correct and informed decisions every time. But that is not, and will not, ever, be the case. And that is why bluelight exists, so we can share the info, and learn from each others mistakes. So, JSPete, if it is any consolation, your woes will certainly help others in the future make better decisions.

Cheers <3
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2nds
 
The incident was not unpredictable as similar reactions have been reported for other dissociatives and he was aware that he made involuntary noises on MXE in the past. Nevertheless, what's done is done and at the risk of insult he reported what happened for the sake of others when he didn't have to. Moreover, he admitted his mistake and committed to responsible behavior change. He's conducted himself as commendably as is realistic given the circumstances, and I hope others who make mistakes will follow suit. It's not really productive to chastise someone who has already done as much as can be expected.

What do you guys think of MXE for movies? I failed miserably at watching Ingmar Bergman's "Hour of the Wolf" on it last week, giving up after about 20 minutes unable to string together the story, though I've watch similar films with relative success on DXM and ketamine. It's interesting how in some ways MXE seems more lucid than other dissociatives-- with regard to motor coordination, for example -- but under certain circumstances, like following a film plot via subtitles, its unique brand of cognitive impairment can be teased out. For me, DXM is still the best of the lot at aesthetically enhancing horror films and the beauty of the impoverished and the dirty (I love seeing dank stairwells, parking garages, yellow sodium light, puddles,abandoned factories, and the like on DXM).

What does MXE enhance for you?
 
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Regarding watching movies on Methoxetamine. It really has to be some easy to follow plot. I tried to watch a documentary on methoxetamine but it got way too emotionel to the point where I had to turn off my tv because I was on the edge of bursting out in tears.

on another note....woohoo! Just received 3grams methoxetamine today. :)
 
I tried watching star wars on MXE, and asides from the double vision it was pretty good fun. Of course I had absolutely no idea what was going on, but all the flashy lights and funny noises tickled me in the sort of way a simpleton would be tickled.

Also thanks again amanitadine, psood0nym, Ibeing789, Shambles, and everyone one else for your understanding. I hope the benefits of reporting to bluelight outweigh the humiliation of what happened.
 
I'm still having pretty mixed up feelings about this, yesterdays trip was super intense, i took 30mg > 20mg > 30mg in span of 4ish hours. Basically i was in dark room, listening some techno / psy trance, and i was battling between "life and death", trying to belong to this reality by sipping water every 20secs.
Does going to hole always mean you gonna lose consiousness / black out? That doesn't seem very healthly or even fun..
Sure music did sound fucking awesome and the depth of songs really got me, but im not sure if i even could focus to music that well in that state. The feeling of heart beating way too fast and me passing out any minute felt semi bad imo. Everytime i got up and went to bathroom (4 times in hour of trip) i'd feel like passing out due heartbeat / headache or something similiar..
I tried to watch movies and shit by the time peak had worn, but i couldn't really follow plot or anything actually happened..
It mighta been becouse i kinda expected different from this RC, i just wanted an RC that would replace weed in lower doses, so i could do ie dishes and shit and feel amused and excited, since weed is really hard to get here nowdays with no good sources.. Even 500mg of MXE would cost the same as one gram of decent / wet / grass ish weed.. If i'd even find source at this point..
Gotta give it that the afterglow is awesome, the world seems like better place today, Sun is shining, fresh air, birds are tweeting = awesome euphoria..
I will prolly keep doing this on low doses when im bored (NEET atm for about 2 more months, then summer work > school) while searching for chemical / substance closer to weed..
 
This drug sounds absoloutely amazing and I cant wait to try some as I love going into a k-hole.
Thing is I liked K too much and was using near enough 25 grams a week daily for a year and even though ive stopped for a few months if i sniff a 200mg line of K I wont k hole I will just feel nice.
I find I only K-hole once in a blue moon, other than that K just numbs my mind and coz im an introvert I like that headspace.

Anyway considering I have a very high tolerance to K (Ive IV'd 500mg before)
How much should I dose for the first time? (I want to reach an M-Hole)
 
jm2020 said:
I'm still having pretty mixed up feelings about this, yesterdays trip was super intense, i took 30mg > 20mg > 30mg in span of 4ish hours. Basically i was in dark room, listening some techno / psy trance, and i was battling between "life and death", trying to belong to this reality by sipping water every 20secs.
Does going to hole always mean you gonna lose consiousness / black out? That doesn't seem very healthly or even fun..
Sure music did sound fucking awesome and the depth of songs really got me, but im not sure if i even could focus to music that well in that state. The feeling of heart beating way too fast and me passing out any minute felt semi bad imo. Everytime i got up and went to bathroom (4 times in hour of trip) i'd feel like passing out due heartbeat / headache or something similiar..
I tried to watch movies and shit by the time peak had worn, but i couldn't really follow plot or anything actually happened..
It mighta been becouse i kinda expected different from this RC, i just wanted an RC that would replace weed in lower doses, so i could do ie dishes and shit and feel amused and excited, since weed is really hard to get here nowdays with no good sources.. Even 500mg of MXE would cost the same as one gram of decent / wet / grass ish weed.. If i'd even find source at this point..
Gotta give it that the afterglow is awesome, the world seems like better place today, Sun is shining, fresh air, birds are tweeting = awesome euphoria..
I will prolly keep doing this on low doses when im bored (NEET atm for about 2 more months, then summer work > school) while searching for chemical / substance closer to weed..
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I suggest you try get used to it more, I too had some less than positive experiences the first few times I tried it, and it definitely did bring on some health paranoia similar to the palpitations/headache you mentioned - but I found that these issues dissolved entirely as I became more accustomed to the drug.

Also, I have dosed 200mg, with tolerance, and have still yet to experience any loss of consciousness, the most similar I have experienced would be akin to a mild salvia hit where your surroundings are no longer familiar.

If you try to stay active and awake on a high MXE dose, I'd say that you can enter an incredibly enjoyable state of mania, where you can end up cleaning your house for hours while experiencing bursts of euphoria, or likewise, focus on a simple, repetitive task for ages.

Following plots/storylines is something which is far too difficult on MXE however, I've recently been watching documentaries on high doses, which I enjoy thoroughly as it's happening, but I don't remember much about it.

Try to use the afterglow to your advantage, for example, if you have time to kill after waking up - take a medium dose right after breakfast, enjoy tripping for a few hours. Once that's done, you'll be left with an amazing afterglow for the rest of the day/night, where you'll feel more motivated and energetic than you've felt in a long time!

Has anybody got any theories as to why this chemical can work as such an effective anti-depressant for up to a week after dosing?
 
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psood0nym said:
What do you guys think of MXE for movies?
What does MXE enhance for you?
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I watched Lola Rennt (Run Lola Run) while on MXE and it was fantastic. It was a very low dose (10-20mg) and I already watched it, so I knew the plots.
I found on MXE that I could clean in a different way.. for example. I threw a lot of stuff I didnt use in years, and I made a bag of clothes to give away.
 
For the most part I enjoy best being in an almost dark room, the correct music playing, and doing nothing but laying back. But, there are some exceptions...

In regards to movies it can be exceptional, if the right film is chosen and the dose is right. I hadn't done methoxetamine in a few weeks until last night, when I dosed a very small amount as a deliberate adjunct to a film. 18mg was taken sublingually, along with 7mg 2C-C rectally, and 3 mg JWH-122 was vaped . (I have found this combo to be splendid, both in low and high doses...) The film was to be White Zombie, starring Boris Karloff,which, amazingly (given my taste for the genera) I had never seen. For those of you that haven't seen it, this is the trailblazer (1932) in regards to zombie films, and has set the stage for many a film to later come. It is a classic Halperin brothers film, and is quite beautiful both aesthetically and atmospherically. The droogs combined in such a way that I was still able to follow the plot per se, but the boundaries had dissolved, and I had a much bigger role than just viewer. All of our fates were tied up in my responses, and at times the film became a galactic choose yr own adventure, complete with a Grand Inquisitor-esque climax in which my moral and philosophical codes were held up for the astral jury to pass judgement upon. The film has lots of wonderful silences, and a good deal of characters starring straight at the camera for what seems like an eternity.....these scenes in particular were riveting, and I earnestly was feeling lines of communication between myself and the characters. To add to the confusion, good portions of the film were co-opted from other Universal Studios horror film productions at the time, and so everything was eerily familiar. Good times! At one point me and my mate draped a sheet over the computer and around us, so were watching the film inside a little astro-sled, which made perfect sense at the time. All round nuttiness!

Cheers

oh and yes Farmaz, I can vouch that the first Sunno))) album is a great soundtrack. Especially from Interzone ;)
 
So what about methoxetamine with N-ethyl chain reduced by one carbon? (methoxamine?)

This would probably be much closer to ketamine in effects?
 
No, not quite. It has been explored, and was similar to MXE except in regards to potency, and from what little info was available it was at least twice as weak. The 3-MeO group really changes things, so it has a very different character than ketamine.
 
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