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Heroin Social Chat v4

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kkat Thanks for the advice. K is harder to come by in my circles. Used to be as easy as traveling across the border to mexico (30-60) minutes and going to an animal pharmacy- they were selling shitloads OTC. Robitussin is a cruder alternative- but the cure iMHO is worst than the disease. This is good to know if I come across any K. How are you doing?

Cheers,

Spun

I don't even know if K is addictive but i do know that 2-3 days on it flatout will not leave you with a habit or fucked up in any way
just gets you thru any pain fro w/d's
i didn't even get any sneezing or the shits but i suppose i was sticking K up my nose every few hrs and i didn't eat
 
Usual shite ensued then - the hour goes by, then the second. So I call, no answer. Third hour passes, and I call five times and send two texts to him - no response. Then the most unlikely savior comes and saves the day, and not only introduces me to a new contact selling pre-drought at pre-drought prices, but gives me another 3 numbers of heads around the area that are all back on now and all charging pre-drought prices for pre-drought product - all of course along with half a bag on the house to top it off. Fucking deserved it after the trauma of the ladder incident.

I'm broke now until next monday - but fuck it, I'll go the week without scoring because when next monday rolls forth I'll have pre-drought coming out my fucking ears man.

Hi Endless...... i hope you don't think that i'm trying to go against what your saying, but as this forum is for the welfare & protection of all users i think that it is only fair to say again that one persons 'pre~drought fire 9/10 gear' is another persons 2/10 gear. & as you & i used the Very same H last week, & that day you had posted on this thread that you considered it 'pre drought fire 9/10 gear' but my Boyfriend & I considered it '2/10 gear' i think that it is only fair to point this out to people again, so that they can get a more accurate idea & then they can make their own mind up.

Its just that i would really hate for people to get their hopes up, then they might go out & score & end up wasting their hard earned cash. I just think that the phrase 'pre drought' & 'fire' is getting thrown around far too frequently. I understand that the H that you & i had last week might be 'fire' to you, but most people are used to a much better grade of H then that, so not many would be happy with it at all.

But sure things have to get better soon, & if you are happy with that grade of H then who am i to say that you shouldn't?! But i know that most people are looking for much better quality H, especially at €40 for 0.3. So i just really feel like its only fair to show people that different people are looking for different kinds of H!!

I hope you don't think that i am trying to get at you Endless..... coz i'm not, your a lovely bloke, its just that i think that its so important that people get a fair idea of the H situation, that is exactly what this forum is for after all!! Let people read the posts & make their own judgment as to how the drought is going in their area. But we are all addicts, so the word 'fire' & 'pre drought' can trigger us & i just don't want anyone getting false hope.

As i say things will have to pick up soon, the good quality will come back first & after a while the prices should start to come down. I have heard the odd good report in Dublin, so hopefully things will get better week by week!!

Again Endless..... i hope you don't take this post personally, its just my opinion on the same H that you, me & my bf all used. So its just what i think of the gear. I hope things are going well for you, i'll let you know when there is another gig on & maybe you will head down for a few pints!! :)
 
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i also keep a stockpile of meth
4 times now the pharmacist has not put the top on the bottle properly and i've got home to find an empty bottle and a green bag
nothing can be done about it cos every drop of green at the pharmacy has to be accounted for
just have to hit the stash

Yep, that exact thing happened to me a few weeks ago, but luckily i noticed it before to much of it spilled out!! That is awful Kkattastic, i hope that you have enough stashed away to get by!!

If you went back & showed the chemist what had happened could they not give you another bottle then? Like if you showed them the meth all over the bag, coz its their fault!! Its awful losing all your meth like that, what a nightmare!!

I'm just after checking in my bag now to see if the meth i got to~day is ok, i'm getting paranoid now!!!! I hope that your ok. :)
 
i also keep a stockpile of meth
4 times now the pharmacist has not put the top on the bottle properly and i've got home to find an empty bottle and a green bag
nothing can be done about it cos every drop of green at the pharmacy has to be accounted for
just have to hit the stash

Thats terrible 4 times u say fkin hell . I always check the bottle top cos it happened 2 me once and i lost a days meth , which was replaced , after loadsa fkin about.
But what really pissed me off is the North Face Hoodie that i was wearin (a gift) was ruined cos the juice was in the pocket and thats where it leaked. Methadone is a real fker in that respect , even if u loose say 10mls as i did once on a flight it seems like alot more cos it gets everything sticky n horrible:! I have insisted on tablets every time i've had to fly since n got em thankfully.
 
Thats terrible 4 times u say fkin hell . I always check the bottle top cos it happened 2 me once and i lost a days meth , which was replaced , after loadsa fkin about.
But what really pissed me off is the North Face Hoodie that i was wearin (a gift) was ruined cos the juice was in the pocket and thats where it leaked. Methadone is a real fker in that respect , even if u loose say 10mls as i did once on a flight it seems like alot more cos it gets everything sticky n horrible:! I have insisted on tablets every time i've had to fly since n got em thankfully.

The tablets sound much better, but i don't think that they have them in Ireland, well not in my clinic anyway. I would rather take tablets then the green sticky yuk!!!
 
Yep, that exact thing happened to me a few weeks ago, but luckily i noticed it before to much of it spilled out!! That is awful Kkattastic, i hope that you have enough stashed away to get by!!

If you went back & showed the chemist what had happened could they not give you another bottle then? Like if you showed them the meth all over the bag, coz its their fault!! Its awful losing all your meth like that, what a nightmare!!

I'm just after checking in my bag now to see if the meth i got to~day is ok, i'm getting paranoid now!!!! I hope that your ok. :)

nah
i discussed it with the pharmacist and my keyworker who both agreed nothing could be done-couldn't be replaced
it was cos the pharmacist would put it in a sealed bag
now i get them to just give me the bottle,not in a bag,,so i can check it is closed properly and that way it also fits in a side pocket of my bag standing upright
 
The tablets sound much better, but i don't think that they have them in Ireland, well not in my clinic anyway. I would rather take tablets then the green sticky yuk!!!

i've had so much trouble with my teeth;i know many of you understand this
i had nearly all my molars extracted a few months ago and now i have to go back to get the front teeth removed too;hence i will have to wear a plate
i begged at the clinic to give me tablets instead as the drug workers and the pharmacist both agreed that even tho it is sugar free,it can still fuck your teeth
she said they don't do tablets and she thought that nobody does in this country.of course i knew this to not be true so corrected her but i still can't get them.i am still gonna ask the prescribing doctor next time i see him.i'm not 40 yet and getting false teeth
 
nah
i discussed it with the pharmacist and my keyworker who both agreed nothing could be done-couldn't be replaced
it was cos the pharmacist would put it in a sealed bag
now i get them to just give me the bottle,not in a bag,,so i can check it is closed properly and that way it also fits in a side pocket of my bag standing upright

That is awful, you have to got through all that hassle because a trained pharmacist can't put a lid on a bottle!!!

I know its an easy mistake to make & it could happen to anyone, but it makes a big difference when it can cause you so much grief!! If you didn't have a stash then you would end up sick or else using again which is something you may not want to do!!

I hope your alright Kkat!! Its something that i'm going to make sure that i watch out for from now on!!!
 
That is awful, you have to got through all that hassle because a trained pharmacist can't put a lid on a bottle!!!

I know its an easy mistake to make & it could happen to anyone, but it makes a big difference when it can cause you so much grief!! If you didn't have a stash then you would end up sick or else using again which is something you may not want to do!!

I hope your alright Kkat!! Its something that i'm going to make sure that i watch out for from now on!!!

if you pick up every day for several years it is something that is going to happen every now and then
 
i've had so much trouble with my teeth;i know many of you understand this
i had nearly all my molars extracted a few months ago and now i have to go back to get the front teeth removed too;hence i will have to wear a plate
i begged at the clinic to give me tablets instead as the drug workers and the pharmacist both agreed that even tho it is sugar free,it can still fuck your teeth
she said they don't do tablets and she thought that nobody does in this country.of course i knew this to not be true so corrected her but i still can't get them.i am still gonna ask the prescribing doctor next time i see him.i'm not 40 yet and getting false teeth

Yeah i heard that too, that even the sugar free meth can be bad for your teeth, its stupid, why can't they give us a choice of liquid or tablets?? It probably something to do with cost. My teeth are in bits too, i'm due back to the dentist, but i'm dreading it SOooooo........ much!!!! 8(
 
The tablets sound much better, but i don't think that they have them in Ireland, well not in my clinic anyway. I would rather take tablets then the green sticky yuk!!!

They are much better , but they are not in the Prescribing Guidlines for addiction treatment. They are only ment to be scripted for pain releif . Luckily my Gp has used his discresion and let me have them when i go abroad . He's let me have 28 days supply on a few occasions.
But this by far the norm. unfortunatley:(
 
i remember people used to get the phy ablets. man, my head is just fucked, going form constant fucking work rto no work at all, i just cant get the urge to do me housework, everyday i think, yep, im gonna get up feeling good, and oh, its just so uninspiring, ive been on a fucking drugs binge so dont think i can sy, right lady , go shopping when yov done all that, when i start being a twat i get twattier and twattier, its my form of self harm and punishement i hink, maybe ishould just hit the prescription meds, buy loads of mad tablets and neck the lot. hay ho, but im a mom, i cant do shit like that, not that im beig a good mom at the moment, coz im fuckig festering like a festerer at teh moment. embarassing really, chasing that elusive good gear, and there isnt any about. like its not pure fucking bash, but it aint the sort of gear im craving to give me that cozy toes feeling, oh where has it all gone?
 
Holy shit for balls. Gouching my fucking ass off. Good job i've been careful since started digging, got a batch today that came differently wrapped then normal, looked slightly lighter aswell, so had about half of what I would of had normally and felt pretty nice, so did the other half i'd do, and fuckkkk, I couldn't lift my head off the bed for a good 15 minutes, it was pure bliss <3.
 
They are much better , but they are not in the Prescribing Guidlines for addiction treatment. They are only ment to be scripted for pain releif . Luckily my Gp has used his discresion and let me have them when i go abroad . He's let me have 28 days supply on a few occasions.

More progressive clinics here in the states give you a choice of formulations. Hospitalized patients would cop nods off their regular dose of wafers. So a few clinics give you a choice between liquid, wafers, and pills. I always thought it was a placebo effect but experienced that very thing and eleviation of back pain when I courtesy dosed at a clinic in the LA area while visiting my sister- and you don't need to wory about spills customs/ travel/ spill hassels, ect...
 
since i got my diazepam prescription the other day it has really cheered me up
i just like to look at the box
it is legitimately in my name
something i never thought would happen
fantastic!!
 
Always a nice feeling to know you don't have to go about such things illicitly ay Kat? :)
It's amazing what the odd dose of a Benzo can do for the mood. Some people find it causes them Depression, but I'm totally the opposite. I actually GAIN energy when I've taken my dose!
Hope it works out for you :)
 
yep. i love a little valium or something before a trip to the hair dressers, that migth sound mad, but it chill s me out while im sat there. oh fuck man, ive been on stupid big drugs binge the past few days, and no one gouch to be had, wish i could get back to where i was december time, all happy withput fuck all, tho i may have been delerious with al the work i was doing and teh lack of sleep. thanks everyone for being so kind, it is fucking horrible all these mood swings i keep getting, its so sad for my son coz he has to live with me during it, and its horrible, really fucking horrible
 
It's amazing what the odd dose of a Benzo can do for the mood. Some people find it causes them Depression, but I'm totally the opposite. I actually GAIN energy when I've taken my dose!

Same here- I get energy on moderate doses-my longest most tedious and prolific posts are usually benzo fueled.
-- a dose that what would knock your European "dicks in the dirt" or appropriate anatomy. Thats a colonial expression for fire dope, my average dose, which is Rxed- would probably cause most of you to sleep for a few days with your tolerance based by the conservative and in all honesty judicious dosing of your MDs- that you guys are saying you are Rxed-the amount I take to function would do this based on the doses you guys describe.

I got a long road ahead but i got a good psychiatrist and plenty of support...
but its gonna be a hell of a taper. The good news is that I'm 10 days out from subs, I find that my anxiety is worse, sleep worse, and I got very, very mild symptoms- just low energy slightly achey muscles- not unbearable or very distressing by any means- so we will put the benzo tapper on hold for atleast a month per my psych to let my opioid system rebound. Unfortunately, I am using more benzos than I should- gotta get a grip. Paradoxically, most days I can go the whole 12 hours without needing the klonopin- guess its its long half life.

These are useful drugs but be careful. From our harm reduction mandate- by themselves benzos rarely cause death from overdose- their dose response curve has a ceiling- hence their replacement of other sedatives for similar indications (barbs, mandrax, ect...) However, when mixed with alcohol or opiates (including Rx methadone standard doses) the risk of death from respiratory arrest is great. Remember its effects aren't reversed by nalaxone (flumazenil is the antagonist) so if its an alcohol/bezo OD your SOL unless you get medical attention quickly- but not a bad idea if it envolves a benzo/opiate overdose. Having said that, back in the day when I was smoking fire and doing juice, a bar or two of xanax after a afterwork smoke of dope would have me noding blissfully for the rest of the day

Its a true miracle I'm still alive.

I was shoked to hear euro docs typically rx 10 mg temazepam. I'm Rx'd 30 mg a night and usually need 1-2 tabs of that and my nightime benzo plus remeron 10 mg to get descent sleep- and I still wake uo in the middle of the night. But a few somas 3-4 can cause me to lose conciousness one day and 6 on top of this mix won't do shit the next.

My point is just try to be cautious. Sorry I'm rambling- off to a meeting tonight, haven't "come out of the closet" about my benzo therepeutic regimen yet. Maybe I should- atleast here I feel safe to be honest, you'all have been kind to this sometime annoying yank with his 10,000 word posts- with meetings its a different situation, maybe I should try some rigourous honesty. But haven't drank for 2.5 years, used heroin since summer 07', 10 days out from subs, hopefully moving in the right direction or skillfully practicing self dellusion?
 
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been away for for a month dont know if things are better at home at home yet , buy just to let you know i was in Delhi the weekend before last and there all chasing tghe brown on the street and i mean hundreds of them noe one bats a eye and from the look in their eyes they wernt smoking bash, i was with my bird who had me on on a leash but i was tempted, been getting them 10m diazias cost less than 6p each buthad to kick them into touch they leave ye monged , bye from a very hot west india
 
been away for for a month dont know if things are better at home at home yet , buy just to let you know i was in Delhi the weekend before last and there all chasing tghe brown on the street and i mean hundreds of them noe one bats a eye and from the look in their eyes they wernt smoking bash, i was with my bird who had me on on a leash but i was tempted, been getting them 10m diazias cost less than 6p each buthad to kick them into touch they leave ye monged , bye from a very hot west india

Wow wish I was there! If I was u I would construct an argument wiv the mrs so u could storm off and smoke...not saying U should, just thats exactly what I'd do IM A CUNT!!!

@JSPUN; not delusion mate not at all, sounds like ur doing amazingly well; its thanks to peeps like u that I can have some optimism that I might one day be where u are (minus the benzo habit tho I do take remeron, mirtazapine right? I know not a benzo)...so give urself a pat on the back. When ur opiate free will u be taking naltrexone? just in case u slip? good luck with it & keep it up anyway-Ive noticed ur posts seem to be getting shorter on the whole-either that or Ive got quicker at reading thru all the practice! peace
 
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