Oral steroids only!!!

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Daluto4

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Im well aware that this is a frequently asked question! However, i am unable to have injections. People say that its only a quick injection and its over in seconds, people say that it doesnt even hurt, people say that if your serious about body building and want big results then injections is the only way to go. I cant explain it but injections are more than a phobia to me, i cant even look at a neddle without almost dropping. Here lies my problem! Ive been goin to the gym for a few years and want big results! I eat properly, train hard, take a pro recover after training, take 2-3 pro peptides a day! Im currently taking 50mg of Winstol on a non training day and 100mg of Winstol on a traing day but im not seeing major results and have hit a bit of a brick wall. Is there a better steroid that i could be taking or better patterns? I want to put size on mainly but also want lean muscle. Could i stack? What about Winstrol with Anavar or are they too simalar and are the side effects too great? Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated. Cheers!
 
Yes you could stack although the more oral steroids you take at once the more liver problems you will have. Oral steroids go through the liver twice and continuing to take these will cause liver failure

While on cycle you need to be taking a liver protection supplement such as Liv52 or Milk Thistle to lesson the damage

Are you cycling the Winstrol? or are you just taking it and not cycling?

If the latter, you will have massive liver damage which will eventually result in your death. If your not doing PCT then you're natural production of testosterone can stop forever which will also cause you to lose all of your gains...this why post cycle therapy is CRITICAL (your testes shrink to peanuts while on cycle because your natural testosterone shuts off because it's getting the test from an external source)

and your not seeing major results because Winstrol alone will not cause much gains...a testosterone steroid should be the base of every cycle.
 
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but if you are not gaining even a little bit then its probably related to your diet. Especially with the amount you are taking.

Please be careful. You could be causing yourself some serious damage. How are you taking peptides without injecting them? You do not want permanent shutdown or liver damage.

Also, I would not be surprised if you have body issues. Your behavior screams of it. Lift for yourself, not what others think of you.
 
just man up or don't fuck with your hormones. One shot a week is too much ? Please. This isn't therapy, no kleenex.
 
hey mate oral by its self is a useless cycle trust me i did an oral stanna only cycle after effect werent pretty sore joints uncontroled test levels i figure use a oli base test sus250 or test prop for best results i perfer to do .25 everyday for 8-10 weeks such a low level daily wouldnt throw off your natural test levels when you come off or even .50 daily and taper off slowly
 
p.s you loose size once coming off oral cycles just a thought to think about read forums books and ask a PT for info on cycling
 
Steak and potatoes are all you need. Oh, and a pair of balls if you want to use AAS.



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Ugghh I've been sick for the last week and haven't been able to eat or make it to the gym. i need to get back on the chickenabol and fishaflex right away!
 
Drop the winny dude. It isn't really for putting on lean mass, I'd say it's more of a pre-contest drug used to lower your body fat to get you ripped/shredded when your body fat is already very low. Plus, it WREAKS your joints, dries them out. It weakens your tendons making you prone to tearing them. I know a guy whose knees are junk because he used winny a lot when he was younger.

Anavar alone (drop the friggin winny) is a better choice. It won't put a lot of extra muscle on you but the extra muscle it does help you put on will be quality muscle.

You can also look into anadrol and oral turinabol which will help you put on more muscle.

Take note of people's warnings about your liver. Oral steroids are liver toxic. You need to take liver suplements as someone else has said. You also need to only use these steroids for brief periods of time (i.e. anavar for 8 weeks maximum, the others like 4 weeks).

Also, educate yourself on PCT. Steroids should be cycled (time on and time off) not taken constantly, that's only for the pro bb'ers. You'll seriously f yourself if you don't cycle, protect your liver, and use pct.

Test suspended in oil, and injected into the muscle is safer, not toxic to your liver in the least bit, makes you feel great, and helps you put on a lot of quality muscle. Desensitize yourself to needles.
 
Bro,

Get over it and inject dude. Just don't poke yourself super fast. Take your time. If u can't inject your not ready for steriods except anavar for 8 weeks at 75 to 100 mg take clomid for 1 month after
 
yeah haah first 20 times are going to be a little edgey. the worst part is when you come into contact with a vein and you get an unexplainable weird sensation like electricity zapped you or something, then you got to move it around while its in you to get away from the vein. but the rush yeah baby lol.
winny isnt going to give you much results. its best used for cutting. i like to use it when im not on my pin-cycle. if youre eating the way you would eat on a T cycle, then youre not going to see many results. winny will harden your shit up and rip you up. but you need to be somewhat calorie deficient and eat a lot of protein to see any effects. if you use it on cycle, you will free up more T. so if youre on only winny, decrease calories and continue to eat plenty of meats. if youre looking for added size from orals, try dbol or adrols. the dbols will put a good 5+ pounds on you in the first week, but it is temporary water weight, mostly, and will gradually disappear as soon as you discontinue. i believe the adrols do the same but may add a little extra permanent. dbols will make you hungry as shit too. like the munchies, but 100% unimaginably worse. estro is hydrophilic and adipose tissue philic so eating a lot of unused calories is partly why taking dbol has the potential to cause tits, not instantly, but slow enough for you to not even realize its happening.

btw orals and liver damage is waaay overrated especially when youre taking the right supps along side it. this is why fruits and veggies are so important. even cardio helps to increase the metabolism and excretion of harmful by products form organs and tissue. cheers
 
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yeah haah first 20 times are going to be a little edgey. the worst part is when you come into contact with a vein and you get an unexplainable weird sensation like electricity zapped you or something, then you got to move it around while its in you to get away from the vein. but the rush yeah baby lol.
winny isnt going to give you much results. its best used for cutting. i like to use it when im not on my pin-cycle. if youre eating the way you would eat on a T cycle, then youre not going to see many results. winny will harden your shit up and rip you up. but you need to be somewhat calorie deficient and eat a lot of protein to see any effects. if you use it on cycle, you will free up more T. so if youre on only winny, decrease calories and continue to eat plenty of meats. if youre looking for added size from orals, try dbol or adrols. the dbols will put a good 5+ pounds on you in the first week, but it is temporary water weight, mostly, and will gradually disappear as soon as you discontinue. i believe the adrols do the same but may add a little extra permanent. dbols will make you hungry as shit too. like the munchies, but 100% unimaginably worse. estro is hydrophilic and adipose tissue philic so eating a lot of unused calories is partly why taking dbol has the potential to cause tits, not instantly, but slow enough for you to not even realize its happening.

btw orals and liver damage is waaay overrated especially when youre taking the right supps along side it. this is why fruits and veggies are so important. even cardio helps to increase the metabolism and excretion of harmful by products form organs and tissue. cheers
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r u sure about the liver with orals i wanted to just front load dball for 3 weeks with test e but i would love to run it 6 weeks while running my test e 12 weeks
 
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